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RE: Unemployment rate for blacks jumps to 14.4% - 7/6/2012 12:49:32 PM   
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You are being ridiculous, winterapple. What we need are reasonable taxes and regulations and what we are getting from the Obama administration and his leftist cronies makes doing business in America unreasonably difficult.

This is what, or third "recovery summer" full of bad economic news? Where are the pro growth ideas that don't involve even more smothering debt.

If government spending really meant more growth we had ought to be in economic heaven, not blowing smoke rings

The same can be said for cutting taxes.

Where's the Republican plan? I hear a lot of complaining, but no action details.

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RE: Unemployment rate for blacks jumps to 14.4% - 7/6/2012 12:51:14 PM   
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Thats twist-and-spin speak for "We haven't been this deeply in debt since WW II"

And where we are headed by continuing to exponentially add to this monsterous burden of debt is certainly a crisis

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Considering the debt spiral we are in and the dire eventuality that we are being steered toward,
Just like Greece

Greece, with a $312 billion economy, has a 165% debt to GDP ratio. That's bad.

The U.S., with a $15+ trillion economy, has a 1 to 1 debt to GDP ratio. Not great. Not a crisis. In the 1940s, it was 110% of GDP. We didn't implode.

We DID, however, do sensible things, like raise taxes when we were spending lots of money on wars.



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RE: Unemployment rate for blacks jumps to 14.4% - 7/6/2012 12:55:17 PM   
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Thats twist-and-spin speak for "We haven't been this deeply in debt since WW II"

And where we are headed by continuing to exponentially add to this monsterous burden of debt is certainly a crisis

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Considering the debt spiral we are in and the dire eventuality that we are being steered toward,
Just like Greece

Greece, with a $312 billion economy, has a 165% debt to GDP ratio. That's bad.

The U.S., with a $15+ trillion economy, has a 1 to 1 debt to GDP ratio. Not great. Not a crisis. In the 1940s, it was 110% of GDP. We didn't implode.

We DID, however, do sensible things, like raise taxes when we were spending lots of money on wars.



Then I'd love to hear the Republican plan.

So far, they just want to (1) spend money the military doesn't want and (2) cut taxes and further exacerbate the shortfall.

Remember, we were covering this before Bush's and then Obama's tax cuts.

When we spend more money, we have to fund it. Not magically self-funding wars. Insurance mandates, however unpopular, are funding.

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RE: Unemployment rate for blacks jumps to 14.4% - 7/6/2012 1:00:33 PM   
Sanity


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Status: offline 		Think of the economy as a balloon. The government sucks cash out of it while the private sector blows money into it. Now, despite the president asserting that the private sector is doing fine it could stand to keep some more of its own money so it could hire more people

Obviously

The government needs to get out of the way because taking money from our grandchildren and blowing it like there's no tomorrow isn't working

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You are being ridiculous, winterapple. What we need are reasonable taxes and regulations and what we are getting from the Obama administration and his leftist cronies makes doing business in America unreasonably difficult.

This is what, or third "recovery summer" full of bad economic news? Where are the pro growth ideas that don't involve even more smothering debt.

If government spending really meant more growth we had ought to be in economic heaven, not blowing smoke rings

The same can be said for cutting taxes.

Where's the Republican plan? I hear a lot of complaining, but no action details.



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RE: Unemployment rate for blacks jumps to 14.4% - 7/6/2012 1:01:11 PM   
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46-48
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94-06 minus the senate 01-02 when a senator became an independent.

The bulk of our debt is theirs and remains so today, because they control the house today, they got no fucking plan, they are the definition of ineptitude and borrow and spend. 

They got no fucking plan. They got no fact.  They got no ideas.  They got shop-worn already tried debt inducing and job killing ideologies.



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RE: Unemployment rate for blacks jumps to 14.4% - 7/6/2012 1:02:42 PM   
Marini


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Status: offline 		Since I have a little time, I will list some of the millions of links available that verify the FACT that Black unemployment is higher than the norms and RISING.
IT IS another fact for Black youths between 16-19, the unemployment rate is about 40%.

Don't let facts get in your way, MM.

Everything is just wonderful.

BLACK Labor Force/US Government

Black Unemployment Rate- 2010-2011 CITY by CITY

African American Unemployment Rate Surging/CNN MONEY

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RE: Unemployment rate for blacks jumps to 14.4% - 7/6/2012 1:03:31 PM   
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RE: Unemployment rate for blacks jumps to 14.4% - 7/6/2012 1:04:03 PM   
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Think of the economy as a balloon. The government sucks cash out of it while the private sector blows money into it. Now, despite the president asserting that the private sector is doing fine it could stand to keep some more of its own money so it could hire more people

Obviously

Hiring more foreign labour in China will help the American economy how, exactly?

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RE: Unemployment rate for blacks jumps to 14.4% - 7/6/2012 1:06:17 PM   
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Think of the economy as a balloon. The government sucks cash out of it while the private sector blows money into it. That's Now


Think of the economy as a balloon. The government spends money, taking cash out of it, while the Republicans cut the stream of air flowing into it. That's how we got here. It was working, we cut the inflow, then it didn't work. See how that works? Semantics doesn't make it suddenly structurally sound. You aren't flying.


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RE: Unemployment rate for blacks jumps to 14.4% - 7/6/2012 1:06:51 PM   
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Since when is the lunatic fringe concerned about blacks folks?


Since it provides something else for them to have a go at teh Kenyan over.
Obviously.

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RE: Unemployment rate for blacks jumps to 14.4% - 7/6/2012 1:08:11 PM   
Musicmystery


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Since I have a little time, I will list some of the millions of links available that verify the FACT that Black unemployment is higher than the norms and RISING.
IT IS another fact for Black youths between 16-19, the unemployment rate is about 40%.

Don't let facts get in your way, MM.

Everything is just wonderful.

BLACK Labor Force/US Government

Black Unemployment Rate- 2010-2011 CITY by CITY

African American Unemployment Rate Surging/CNN MONEY

Go to hell, Marini. When did I "let facts get in the way"?

You presented opinion. Now you're sharing links. Good girl. Now you're gettin' it.

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RE: Unemployment rate for blacks jumps to 14.4% - 7/6/2012 1:09:17 PM   
Marini


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Since when is the lunatic fringe concerned about blacks folks?



lol, they certainly ARE not.

Though I have mentioned this time and time again, if a few people wake up to the reality of the SEVERITY of the situation, it is a good thing.

But, I think people on the left and the right, are in denial about Black unemployment, and how serious things are for Black people.


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RE: Unemployment rate for blacks jumps to 14.4% - 7/6/2012 1:14:34 PM   
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...And thats the official unemployment rate.

What do you suppose the numbers would look like if the government still counted those who have quit looking for work

25%? 30%? 35%?


It is rare I agree with you, but I believe the real unemployment rate for Black people is at least 20%-25%, nationally.

I have given up on most around here accepting THAT reality.

On the other hand, I am hardly voting for the party that I hold more responsible for outsourcing millions of jobs overseas.
Nor the party that I think primarily would love to have slave labor in this country, when they can't obtain it in others.





Marini....

No one said it was wonderful... in fact, its deplorable. But to blame this on Obama?

The unemployment rate for blacks rose to 14.4% from 13.6% in May, the Labor Department reported Friday. That's a sharp contrast to the white unemployment rate, which stayed put at 7.4%, and the Hispanic rate, which held at 11%.

This trend is not a new one, as the black unemployment rate has been roughly double that of whites since the government started tracking the figures in 1972.

http://money.cnn.com/2012/07/06/news/economy/black-unemployment-rate/

Is it too high? hell yes.

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RE: Unemployment rate for blacks jumps to 14.4% - 7/6/2012 1:14:45 PM   
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You keep harping on military spending as if Dems don't spend money on wars, which is absurd

Admittedly though it would. Be great if freeloading welfare states like like Norway and Sweden et al carried more of the defense weight so we could relax some in that regard

But imagine the map of the wold today without American military might

Not just the Koreas and Europe and the South Pacific but Iraq would own Kuwait unless Iran owned it all, or the Soviets did

Its a fantasy that our defense hasn't paid for itself many times over

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RE: Unemployment rate for blacks jumps to 14.4% - 7/6/2012 1:19:39 PM   
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Status: offline 		Way too high. Sadly (as you say) it's also a constant, and sticking a new fuckwit in the white house never has any impact on it.

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RE: Unemployment rate for blacks jumps to 14.4% - 7/6/2012 1:19:49 PM   
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Maybe next the Republicans will tell us their plan?

That is, if they finally decided getting one is a good idea.


Didn't you hear, Madame Speaker said it herself, we have to vote for them before we know what their plan is... So vote Republican and find out.

Or stick with the guy who is proud that disability & food stamp claims skyrocketed under his watch.


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RE: Unemployment rate for blacks jumps to 14.4% - 7/6/2012 1:21:58 PM   
Musicmystery


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You keep harping on military spending as if Dems don't spend money on wars, which is absurd

Admittedly though it would. Be great if freeloading welfare states like like Norway and Sweden et al carried more of the defense weight so we could relax some in that regard

But imagine the map of the wold today without American military might

Not just the Koreas and Europe and the South Pacific but Iraq would own Kuwait unless Iran owned it all, or the Soviets did

Its a fantasy that our defense hasn't paid for itself many times over

So suddenly we can afford things.

Which is it????

We spend half the world's military budget. We patrol the world--we indeed ARE the world's policemen.

That ain't cheap. Cutting taxes is not the way to pay for it, especially if you're going to increase that spending.

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RE: Unemployment rate for blacks jumps to 14.4% - 7/6/2012 1:22:02 PM   
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RE: Unemployment rate for blacks jumps to 14.4% - 7/6/2012 1:23:17 PM   
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Didn't you hear, Madame Speaker said it herself, we have to vote for them before we know what their plan is... So vote Republican and find out.

Most of us would rather take the cash than see what's in the box, sweetheart.

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RE: Unemployment rate for blacks jumps to 14.4% - 7/6/2012 1:23:41 PM   
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Maybe next the Republicans will tell us their plan?

That is, if they finally decided getting one is a good idea.


Didn't you hear, Madame Speaker said it herself, we have to vote for them before we know what their plan is... So vote Republican and find out.

Or stick with the guy who is proud that disability & food stamp claims skyrocketed under his watch.


And that's just amazing--you even KNOW there's no plan, but hey! It didn't work before, but maybe it will now!

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