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"Sorry, but there are more white people on AFDC than black people." What is the percentage of blacks in America? What is the percentage of whites in America? Since there are a MUCH higher percentage of white people in America, of course there are more whites on AFDC. But PERCENTAGE wise, blacks RULE AFDC. If you didn't know this, now would be a good time to bad mouth your school district.
Read up. Yattie was saying that there was a special "Field" that only blacks were allowed to play on......I don't really care about the numbers. The program is for anyone that is qualified
Might I quote myself within context -
Perhaps because, beginning at least back in the 60s
Initially the Civil Rights field, as established in the 60s, was aimed solely at the black community. That it later encompassed other minorities is irrelevant.
That field, though having good intentions, actually lowered the bar for the black community's access to various venues.
As a NOW website states,
The actual phrase "affirmative action" was first used in President John F. Kennedy's 1961 Executive Order 10925 which requires federal contractors to "take affirmative action to ensure that applicants are employed, and that employees are treated during employment, without regard to their race, creed, color, or national origin."
The same language was later used in Lyndon Johnson's 1965 Executive Order 11246.
In 1967, Johnson expanded the Executive Order to include affirmative action requirements to benefit women.
Other equal protection laws passed to make discrimination illegal were the 1964 Civil Rights Act, Title II and VII of which forbid racial discrimination in "public accommodations" and race and sex discrimination in employment, respectively; and the 1965 Voting Rights Act adopted after Congress found "that racial discrimination in voting was an insidious and pervasive evil which had been perpetuated in certain parts of the country through unremitting and ingenious defiance of the Constitution."
The unintended consequence was the eventual lowering of the bar for minority applicants. With the pressure of the Courts in seeing that minorities became better represented in various venues it became necessary for i.e. employers to accept a lesser qualified candidate, under what is now termed diversity, else be charged with discrimination. This eventually found its way even into the school system.
AFDC was a direct result of the Civil Rights movement. Mr.Rogers is correct -
Yes, partisans, it is as simple at that. That removed dad from all poor families where he was unemployed...long enough. There goes the poor family structure.
Add to that, rampant discrimination in education, work and wages, so the state enlarges and seals the fate of a virtually permanent underclass.
AFDC was most harmful to the black community, far above that of the white. Good intentions gone bad.
As to work and wages, and especially education, in the attempt to fix the rampant discrimination in education, work and wages, it became necessary to focus on race and not ability. The unintended consequence was the bar being lowered. It has been continually going lower ever since.
Now Mr.Rogers, with whom I most often highly disagree with, stated it differently yet the result is the same -
And of course despite the wishes of many, no one was removed from any playing field, the playing field was re-tilted in favor of those who found it...all up hill for 250 years.
The playing field, though, never change for the whites.
Given where we are now, I'm quite certain the cure was more detrimental than the disease.
So, many will slam what I say. But I ask you this. How's it working out so far?
Seriously as a white male i hae had a greased path. The idea affirmative action hurt whites is contradicted by unemployment rates. Oh yes no doubt you went to the welfare queen myth....welfare is time limited and most are on it less than 2 yrs. In 1964 the south was akin to south africa and the north like the racist south of the 70s. You either believe whites are superior or thatracism and the disparity in our educational system are resonsible for today. The idea blacks got some affirmative action free ride is bs. It made a small dent in emplyment disaprity and income disparity. Are blacks inferior is that why they are so far behind whites or is our white dominated culture still bestowing benefits on the poor discrimated against white people. Anyone with as passing interest of statistics knows how much the field is tilted my way. It amazes me those who have an easier path beliee they are discriminated against..........meanshile they have half the unemployment level
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