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I don't see how someone who's unmedicated with a mental illness could do something so elaborate and well planned. The schizophrenics I've looked after have a hard enough time attending to personal hygiene and eating... there's no way they could do this.

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I don't see how someone who's unmedicated with a mental illness could do something so elaborate and well planned. The schizophrenics I've looked after have a hard enough time attending to personal hygiene and eating... there's no way they could do this.

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I don't see how someone who's unmedicated with a mental illness could do something so elaborate and well planned. The schizophrenics I've looked after have a hard enough time attending to personal hygiene and eating... there's no way they could do this.

Quite.

There may be more to this than what is seen on the surface.

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ORIGINAL: slvemike4u

I'm about to ask a really stupid question,especially in light of high school shootings in our recent history,but just how does an individual get this screwed up in 24 short years ?
Booby trapped apartment,bullet proof vest ,tear gas mask,pails of ammunition,multiple firearms......this wasn't a spontaneous act,this appears to be a considered planned action to murder as many innocents as possible
So I repeat my question....just how does a person get this fucked up?
And how does it go unnoticed by anyone else?
My thoughts and prayers are with the victims and their families.....my concerns are for all of us,we seem to inhabit an increasingly violent society and seem to lack the political will to do anything at all the inhibit the access to the instruments of violence.

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Firstly; I feel worst for the victims, obviously. They went to a freaking movie theater and had no idea that this would be the outcome.

The unaccountable horror that they have faced will scar all of them - in some way - forever.

Next, I feel awful for the people who were there who didn't get hit. While they're lucky in avoiding a shower of hot lead, they too will be scarred for life if by nothing else than some level of "survivors' guilt".

The mother/parents of the dirtbag perpetrator also has my sympathy this is almost a parents' worst nightmare and I cannnot fathom having to deal with something like this.

Lastly, I don't know (yet) whether or not to feel sorry for the shooter. He may have been mentally ill or he may have been like so many "thrill-seekers" that we've read or heard about in recent years.

If he is the former, I have some sympathy but only a modicum. If he is the latter; may he suffer for the rest of his days (which I hope will be short) for the horror he has perpetrated on innocent lives.



Peace and comfort,



Michael

P.S.;

stand by for the gun control lobby to jump on this horrible tragedy and use it to their optimum advantage, also.

MPC

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P.S.;

stand by for the gun control lobby to jump on this horrible tragedy and use it to their optimum advantage, also.

MPC

And here is where I believe it makes a perfect argument and deterrent for others being armed, trained to shoot, carrying, and stopping the perpetrator before he got so far. With him being the only one armed, it's akin to shooting at fish in a fishbowl. Only equal or greater force could have stopped this.

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Yes, the 3 month old baby shot at point blank range should've had a gun too.

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Yes, all fetuses should get Glocks! And night vision sights, for dark theatres, alleyways, and walk-in freezers.

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There may be more to this than what is seen on the surface.

Meaning what, my dear?

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The historical record shows that when a government disarms its citizens, this is often followed by a genocide on (some part of) the (disarmed) population.

I think you can google all of the above.

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The Dunblane school massacre occurred at Dunblane Primary School in the Scottish town of Dunblane on 13 March 1996. The gunman, 43-year-old Thomas Hamilton, entered the school armed with four handguns, shooting and killing sixteen children and one adult before committing suicide.
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the 1987 Hungerford massacre and the 2010 Cumbria shootings, it remains one of the worst criminal acts involving firearms in the history of the United Kingdom.
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Public debate subsequent to these events centred on gun-control laws, including media-driven public petitions calling for a ban on private ownership of handguns and an official enquiry, the Cullen Report. In response to this debate, the Firearms (Amendment) Act 1997 and the Firearms (Amendment) (No. 2) Act 1997 were enacted, which effectively made private ownership of handguns illegal in the United Kingdom.

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That our current social infrastructural here in the US cannot come close to caring for the severely mentally ill *is* a political issue, IMO.

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Most people suffer from a lack of paranoia and will ignore such possibilities. But I don't.