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ORIGINAL: MadamCat85

I appreciate a sub with a personality and opinions. I also don't expect complete submission until we've grown comfortable with each other. I know there are Dom/me's out there that do and I think that's just ignorant.
~Mistress Cat

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ORIGINAL: LolaLita
I have considered trolling hard, but they would just cry about it to the mods. I am actually trying to be civil, but their they are too stuck in themselves to hear any opinion that differs from their own.

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ORIGINAL: LolaLita

I have considered trolling hard, but they would just cry about it to the mods. I am actually trying to be civil, but their they are too stuck in themselves to hear any opinion that differs from their own.

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ORIGINAL: LolaLita

It's great that you have an opinion. In fact, everyone has one. Everyone also has an anus, and it emits fecalmatter.

Much like your opinion. C:

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ORIGINAL: DesFIP

I'm not sure how someone whose profile says she submits to everyone and compares herself to a stray pup can at the same time be a strong and challenging sub to one.

What you see as condescension we see as the same old, same old. I don't know how many barely legals have been here claiming they are decades more mature than their chronological age. From where I sit, that's never been true. You come across as highly defensive.

You know more at 19 than you did at 9. At 29 you will be amazed how naive your 19 year old self appears. At 49 you will laugh at the the things you said at 29 thinking you knew it all.

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ORIGINAL: ARIES83

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ORIGINAL: LolaLita

It's great that you have an opinion. In fact, everyone has one. Everyone also has an anus, and it emits fecalmatter.

Much like your opinion. C:

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ORIGINAL: DesFIP

I'm not sure how someone whose profile says she submits to everyone and compares herself to a stray pup can at the same time be a strong and challenging sub to one.

What you see as condescension we see as the same old, same old. I don't know how many barely legals have been here claiming they are decades more mature than their chronological age. From where I sit, that's never been true. You come across as highly defensive.

You know more at 19 than you did at 9. At 29 you will be amazed how naive your 19 year old self appears. At 49 you will laugh at the the things you said at 29 thinking you knew it all.

[sm=banghead.gif]
What DesFIP says is true and well put in my
opinion, I shake my head at the things I did
and thought were important at 19 and i'm 29
now. It doesn't mean I wasn't awesom at 19...
just that i'm more awesome now haha.

-ARIES

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ORIGINAL: JeffBC

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ORIGINAL: LolaLita
I have considered trolling hard, but they would just cry about it to the mods. I am actually trying to be civil, but their they are too stuck in themselves to hear any opinion that differs from their own.

Really? OK, let me try to explain my initial reaction.

You're told that your personality profile just happens to be perfect and you go with it.
Anyone who doesn't agree must be so "overwhelmed by your personality" that they must "run away".

Embedded in there was a certain amount of narcissism.

Now... to answer the question you may have actually been asking. No, your personality type is not "perfect". For some yes, for others... not so much. More to the point there are lots of reasons I might "run away" from someone and the most likely ones by far have nothing to do with incompatibility on a D/s score. Nor is it very likely that I'd find myself overwhelmed by your personality. What is true is that your willingness to submit would mean nothing to me. I don't do the "D/s by agreement" thing. I'm more interested in how you naturally react than how you school yourself to react.

The best analogy I have for you is that some guys seem to groove on the whole "breaking the wild bronco" gig. Not me. I just want a nice, well-trained mount that goes where I want it to go and does what I want it to do with a minimum of drama. I'll leave taming the wild ones to those who are into it. Conveniently for you, I think there's a large overlap between guys who groove on young women and guys who like taming wild subs. You shouldn't have too hard of a time finding someone who isn't overwhelmed (and wants to bother) with you.

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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

To own someone with the personality of a stump is no honor. On the other hand there is some real latitude in interpretation here, to own a wide and brawling woman with atrocious behaviors, or a pillow princess with same who describes herself rather slantedly as a 'strong personality that men can't handle'  would be kicked to the fucking curb toot fuckin sweet.

And there are all the flavors in between but I think that is what everyone (some more clumsily than others) are trying to point out.

Hey, take a strong woman and make her obedient and obeisant?   That's some wood and I dont care who you are.  

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ORIGINAL: LolaLita


...I could care less about whether or not Im your type. The entire point of this thread was to ask if Dominant men would or would not prefer a sub with a strong personality, or a sub who was bold and opinionated. Your first post was a little venomous on my behalf, you assumed that this thread was my self-post. It was not. I was asking a very common question. I also noticed that the "elites" of the boards tend to gang up, like a mob or group of bullies. Not just in this thread, but amongst many others. So, why did you target me in your first post, then respond to the original quote, Im not sure.


But thank your input on the original question.

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ORIGINAL: OsideGirl

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ORIGINAL: crazyml

Right, having followed this thread for a bit, I do have to qualify slightly..

I adore smart, assertive, confident, successful. Sassy even.

Opinionated without substance, arrogant, aggressive, rude. Not so much.

So when you say "strong minded".... it depends on whether that strong mindedness is born out of smart, assertive, confident, successful or Opinionated without substance, arrogant, aggressive, rude.

Judging from her posts....it's option number two.

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ORIGINAL: LolaLita

Let's say that you (the Master) have met a rather...strong-minded "potential" sub. Would his or her personality be too overwhelming, even if they were more than willing to submit to you? Is there really a such thing as a "bad submissive"?

I have been told that an intelligent, independent submissive woman is the "perfect" type. Why then, do so many run away when faced with such a person?

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ORIGINAL: ARIES83

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ORIGINAL: LolaLita


...I could care less about whether or not Im your type. The entire point of this thread was to ask if Dominant men would or would not prefer a sub with a strong personality, or a sub who was bold and opinionated. Your first post was a little venomous on my behalf, you assumed that this thread was my self-post. It was not. I was asking a very common question. I also noticed that the "elites" of the boards tend to gang up, like a mob or group of bullies. Not just in this thread, but amongst many others. So, why did you target me in your first post, then respond to the original quote, Im not sure.


But thank your input on the original question.

You are seeing people ganging up on you and the
"Elites" sticking togeather, in reality everyones opinion
is very independent and distinct.
If you are seeing a common theme of disagreement
towards your comments I would urge you to consider
that you may have some bad or at the least naive
opinions.
Some of the people who's opinions you have dismissed
are probably the most knowledgeable and experienced
posters on the site... And you asked them for opinions.

I'm not age bashing you... I'm sincerely telling you to
go and consider the fact your points of view are coming
across as naive and it may have nothing to do with
people replying.

-ARIES

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ORIGINAL: LaTigresse

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ORIGINAL: OsideGirl

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ORIGINAL: crazyml

Right, having followed this thread for a bit, I do have to qualify slightly..

I adore smart, assertive, confident, successful. Sassy even.

Opinionated without substance, arrogant, aggressive, rude. Not so much.

So when you say "strong minded".... it depends on whether that strong mindedness is born out of smart, assertive, confident, successful or Opinionated without substance, arrogant, aggressive, rude.

Judging from her posts....it's option number two.

Based upon the link Poise so generously provided and the posts I've read thus far on this thread.......I concur.