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RE: Highest Paid Teachers in the Country Strike - 9/14/2012 6:13:51 AM

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During football and wrestling seasons, it wasn't uncommon for me to leave the house before 7 and get home about midnight.

Didn't you get additional funds for being a coach/advisor to the sports teams? The teachers around here do for advising/coaching any of the sports/clubs.

Coaching went for an extra 2500/year. That's about $5-6/hour.
My 12 hour days were in the offseason.

And you didn't town for Can Cun every winter on big bucks like that?

Coaches work thru Xmas break unfortunately. I was in miami tho so the Bahamas was $79 round trip.

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RE: Highest Paid Teachers in the Country Strike - 9/14/2012 7:27:45 AM

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During football and wrestling seasons, it wasn't uncommon for me to leave the house before 7 and get home about midnight.

Didn't you get additional funds for being a coach/advisor to the sports teams? The teachers around here do for advising/coaching any of the sports/clubs.

Coaching went for an extra 2500/year. That's about $5-6/hour.
My 12 hour days were in the offseason.

And you didn't town for Can Cun every winter on big bucks like that?

Coaches work thru Xmas break unfortunately. I was in miami tho so the Bahamas was $79 round trip.

Just ribbing ya.

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RE: Highest Paid Teachers in the Country Strike - 9/14/2012 7:31:33 AM

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I know. One of my old Geology professors offered me 50% more $ to come work in the lab with a startup company and that was the end of teaching.

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RE: Highest Paid Teachers in the Country Strike - 9/14/2012 7:55:22 AM

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I love my husband very much, we have been together since grade one, married for 21 years. But, if I had to do it all over again......I wouldn't marry a teacher. He is rarely in bed before 2:00 am because he is busy marking, and for some reason I sleep much better when he is beside me.

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RE: Highest Paid Teachers in the Country Strike - 9/14/2012 9:07:52 AM

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maybe teachers work harder & do more in Canada?

I know a teacher that works in Long Beach, CA (he teaches PhysEd & math) and while he does do some marking at home.. he gets home at 3 pm most days and most of his off time is his to do whatever he pleases.. he makes $80k+ a year and bragged to me he will get a pension that will give him something like 60% of his wages, he lives alone in a house that is worth about $500k & every summer he either takes a nice vacation or renovates his house (2 years ago new kitchen cabinets & granite countertops).. He has job security with his seniority too, of course.. He feels he is on easy street & living the American Dream but he does have a Master degree so spent a lot on his own education.. and of course he didnt start off at 80k/yr.. and he does live in union utopia California.. but he feels he has it pretty darn good with his job...

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RE: Highest Paid Teachers in the Country Strike - 9/14/2012 9:30:34 AM

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Tj, looked up long beach schools. They don't get out till 3:20.....how does he get home at 3?

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RE: Highest Paid Teachers in the Country Strike - 9/14/2012 2:27:27 PM

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A few hours here and there??? See, here comes the uneducated part again. Football season required daily practice, 3:30 - 6:30, Monday to Friday. Game on Saturday, sometimes up to three hours away. You have a late game, and you're not home until after 11 pm. Wrestling season is even worse. Take the practices and add on out of town nine frickin weekends in a row! We livr in Alberta, Canada. Find a map and see how big we are. Tournaments are not simply a drive across town.

Contracts. We have a number of school divisions, but the teachers have all gotten together and done a provincisl contract. It use to be that people who taught in my city, made several thousand dollars a year more than hubby, who works for a country in a small town 20 minutes down the road. The lunch hour supevision crap is employer based, not union.

Btw, the school division in my city, pays teachers and community members to look after coaching duties.

Ah...the thread began regarding the strike in Chicago and so I thought "the country" referenced in the title of the thread was the country that Chicago is in. (And perhaps you mentioned before this post that you were speaking of Canada. If so, my apologies. I missed that.) I would have to agree - I am uneducated about Canada's practices. Perhaps it's quite similar, but I really just don't know.

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RE: Highest Paid Teachers in the Country Strike - 9/14/2012 2:59:56 PM

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Maybe thats when school gets out for younger kids but not all teachers have classes until that time.. It varies on the grade they teach and the day too.. and there are lots of schools in Long Beach.. not sure which one he teaches at or what grade (but they are older kids).. one day of the week he doesnt get home until 5 cuz he goes over to some seniors home and teaches a class to the seniors there (which he gets paid for).. He does go in a bit earlier tho (I told me he does some tutoring to students that need extra help before classes start.. not sure if that is part of his job description/wages, imo it probably is)..

I am not knocking it or him, just he doesnt seem to be the hardest working teacher around (he certainly makes sure to take his allowed sick days tho).. maybe it has to do with him teaching Phys-ed and that not being book intensive so the only marking would be his math classes.. and too, its do it his way or hit the highway, since he doesnt take any shite from students.. One time a girl tried to get better grades by suggesting she have sex with him and she physically touched him, he immediately called the cops..

He will be retiring in a few years so its been a good gig for him, I guess.. I have never been able to figure out if he actually liked or enjoyed his job or if he was in it for the benefits (once he had been doing it long enough to get the job security, the higher salary, benefits, pension, etc)..

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RE: Highest Paid Teachers in the Country Strike - 9/14/2012 3:10:04 PM

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I know. One of my old Geology professors offered me 50% more $ to come work in the lab with a startup company and that was the end of teaching.

Forgive me if you a;ready stated this. But how long did you teach?

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RE: Highest Paid Teachers in the Country Strike - 9/14/2012 3:11:27 PM

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For the fun of it. Why don't you tell me which jobs are Professional and which are simply slackers doing "work". Your elitism makes me laugh. The false sense of concern for "other" workers turns my stomach.

You obviously are a fucking lawyer. Making your living fucking people in the ass. Given that teachers are the mainstay of helping kids grow and learn then I think that maybe they ought to be paid just a bit above normal. Don't you agree? Or were you self taught.

No, I'm not a lawyer. I'm actually kind of a peon. With a full-time job and a part-time job. Hardly elitist. Rather tiring, actually.

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I feel I am fairly compensated for the work I do. And I feel that teachers are fairly compensated as well. My concern is more for those people who work just as hard and are not paid a fair wage for their work. I don't believe in caps. We all would love to make more money and I would not presume to say what one's work is worth. But in a discussion of salary, ... teachers aren't any more worse off than anyone else. And I can't quite stomach it to see people who are no worse off than I am complaining that they need more.

Maybe I'm just content with less. Or maybe some others won't be content until they have more. Either way...there are people who are so much more worse off than myself or teachers. If you find my concern to be disingenuous, that is nothing more than your perception of a woman who you don't know. Which hardly seems fair.

God, I fucking hate P&R. I'm going back up North to go see what everyone's cat is doing.

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RE: Highest Paid Teachers in the Country Strike - 9/14/2012 3:12:12 PM

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No wonder our education system is broken, if the highest paid teachers in the country get $76,000. These are proffesionals with Master's degrees. Most people won't go to grad school to earn less than they can make managing a Walmart!

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RE: Highest Paid Teachers in the Country Strike - 9/14/2012 6:37:47 PM

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I know. One of my old Geology professors offered me 50% more $ to come work in the lab with a startup company and that was the end of teaching.

Forgive me if you a;ready stated this. But how long did you teach?

3 years

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RE: Highest Paid Teachers in the Country Strike - 9/15/2012 5:21:38 AM

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For the fun of it. Why don't you tell me which jobs are Professional and which are simply slackers doing "work". Your elitism makes me laugh. The false sense of concern for "other" workers turns my stomach.

You obviously are a fucking lawyer. Making your living fucking people in the ass. Given that teachers are the mainstay of helping kids grow and learn then I think that maybe they ought to be paid just a bit above normal. Don't you agree? Or were you self taught.

No, I'm not a lawyer. I'm actually kind of a peon. With a full-time job and a part-time job. Hardly elitist. Rather tiring, actually.

But...

I feel I am fairly compensated for the work I do. And I feel that teachers are fairly compensated as well. My concern is more for those people who work just as hard and are not paid a fair wage for their work. I don't believe in caps. We all would love to make more money and I would not presume to say what one's work is worth. But in a discussion of salary, ... teachers aren't any more worse off than anyone else. And I can't quite stomach it to see people who are no worse off than I am complaining that they need more.

Maybe I'm just content with less. Or maybe some others won't be content until they have more. Either way...there are people who are so much more worse off than myself or teachers. If you find my concern to be disingenuous, that is nothing more than your perception of a woman who you don't know. Which hardly seems fair.

God, I fucking hate P&R. I'm going back up North to go see what everyone's cat is doing.

So you are wanting to be shielded from perceptions while making judgements based on uninformed perceptions.......Yeah ok......seems fair to me.

And I think you missed the point of the Strike. They are bargaining over future pay. I am assuming that each year in a review that you want to get a raise or don't you care? If you do you are only thinking what the teachers are thinking. They are only acting as a group.......seems simple not sure why people make it hard.

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