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RE: Romney Tells Millionaire Donors What He REALLY Thin... - 9/18/2012 11:19:26 AM   
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didnt you hear your dear leader(presumptive) of COURSE all supporters of Obama are lazy and irresponsible etc etc
dont you follow his Decisive and Divisive opinion???




I'm opposed to fascism. Gary Johnson is getting my vote in 2012.

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RE: Romney Tells Millionaire Donors What He REALLY Thin... - 9/18/2012 11:22:33 AM   
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Not the people who dont pay federal income tax. They are in fact preponderantly republican.


So Obama supporters are all lazy and irresponsible as opposed to just NDAA, Gitmo, Patriot Act, and Drone loving hypocrites?


Are you confused by design or by dint of a lack of understanding?


Those 47% who pay no federal income taxes are by preponderance of the evidence, wal-mart republicans and unamerican, shiftless, lazy, government nannyism troops fighting in our wars.  

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RE: Romney Tells Millionaire Donors What He REALLY Thin... - 9/18/2012 11:24:07 AM   
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didnt you hear your dear leader(presumptive) of COURSE all supporters of Obama are lazy and irresponsible etc etc
dont you follow his Decisive and Divisive opinion???




I'm opposed to fascism. Gary Johnson is getting my vote in 2012.

thankyou for the reasoning

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RE: Romney Tells Millionaire Donors What He REALLY Thin... - 9/18/2012 11:26:49 AM   
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Not the people who dont pay federal income tax. They are in fact preponderantly republican.


So Obama supporters are all lazy and irresponsible as opposed to just NDAA, Gitmo, Patriot Act, and Drone loving hypocrites?


Are you confused by design or by dint of a lack of understanding?

Those 47% who pay no federal income taxes are by preponderance of the evidence, wal-mart republicans and unamerican, shiftless, lazy, government nannyism troops fighting in our wars.  


Actually I don't buy the spin and see Obama as the worst type of hypocrite (a neo con).



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RE: Romney Tells Millionaire Donors What He REALLY Thin... - 9/18/2012 11:30:07 AM   
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Status: offline 		Ah, I am no big fan of Obama myself, but comparatively..........

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RE: Romney Tells Millionaire Donors What He REALLY Thin... - 9/18/2012 11:38:13 AM   
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Ah, I am no big fan of Obama myself, but comparatively..........


Comparatively there is very little difference.

Obama has done so much to solidify fascism in the USA I simply can not vote for him. Obama earned my contempt by promising hope and change then continuing to move the USA towards a police state.

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RE: Romney Tells Millionaire Donors What He REALLY Thin... - 9/18/2012 11:43:07 AM   
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ORIGINAL: isoLadyOwner


quote:

ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

didnt you hear your dear leader(presumptive) of COURSE all supporters of Obama are lazy and irresponsible etc etc
dont you follow his Decisive and Divisive opinion???




I'm opposed to fascism. Gary Johnson is getting my vote in 2012.

I'm so proud of you
Now if we could just convince more uninformed folks to either not vote or simply to throw it away the country would be well on it's way to prosperity

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RE: Romney Tells Millionaire Donors What He REALLY Thin... - 9/18/2012 11:49:39 AM   
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ORIGINAL: isoLadyOwner


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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

didnt you hear your dear leader(presumptive) of COURSE all supporters of Obama are lazy and irresponsible etc etc
dont you follow his Decisive and Divisive opinion???




I'm opposed to fascism. Gary Johnson is getting my vote in 2012.

I'm so proud of you
Now if we could just convince more uninformed folks to either not vote or simply to throw it away the country would be well on it's way to prosperity


Obviously it has never occurred to you (and other Obama boosters) that calling someone uninformed, a racist, a tea bagger or whatever talking points insults you're armed with this week might be counter productive?

Being called racist for opposing war for example is not going to sway many voters.

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RE: Romney Tells Millionaire Donors What He REALLY Thin... - 9/18/2012 11:49:51 AM   
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Status: offline 		I don't agree with that wholeheartedly, but you got yours, I got mine.  I wont be voting Obama but I wont be voting Johnson, he is got some problems here and there.

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RE: Romney Tells Millionaire Donors What He REALLY Thin... - 9/18/2012 11:52:04 AM   
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ORIGINAL: isoLadyOwner


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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

Ah, I am no big fan of Obama myself, but comparatively..........


Comparatively there is very little difference.

Obama has done so much to solidify fascism in the USA I simply can not vote for him. Obama earned my contempt by promising hope and change then continuing to move the USA towards a police state.

Could you perhaps list what the President has done to move the country toward fascism?

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RE: Romney Tells Millionaire Donors What He REALLY Thin... - 9/18/2012 11:55:12 AM   
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ORIGINAL: isoLadyOwner


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ORIGINAL: slvemike4u


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ORIGINAL: isoLadyOwner


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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

didnt you hear your dear leader(presumptive) of COURSE all supporters of Obama are lazy and irresponsible etc etc
dont you follow his Decisive and Divisive opinion???




I'm opposed to fascism. Gary Johnson is getting my vote in 2012.

I'm so proud of you
Now if we could just convince more uninformed folks to either not vote or simply to throw it away the country would be well on it's way to prosperity


Obviously it has never occurred to you (and other Obama boosters) that calling someone uninformed, a racist, a tea bagger or whatever talking points insults you're armed with this week might be counter productive?

Being called racist for opposing war for example is not going to sway many voters.

I called you a racist ?
Where and when ?
I did imply you were throwing away your vote,and that this pleased me....other than that I am guilty of nothing

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Forget Guns-----Ban the pools

Funny stuff....https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eNwFf991d-4


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RE: Romney Tells Millionaire Donors What He REALLY Thin... - 9/18/2012 11:58:58 AM   
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ORIGINAL: DomKen


quote:

ORIGINAL: isoLadyOwner


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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

Ah, I am no big fan of Obama myself, but comparatively..........


Comparatively there is very little difference.

Obama has done so much to solidify fascism in the USA I simply can not vote for him. Obama earned my contempt by promising hope and change then continuing to move the USA towards a police state.

Could you perhaps list what the President has done to move the country toward fascism?


Of course I can. First here's a quote from someone who posted this anonymously but who sums up the choice in this election better than I:

"Romney may be a hedge fund parasite, just another psychopathic, mythologizing Wall Street thief, but he has not, to my knowledge, committed any war crimes, murder, or treason. He has not gutted the Constitution in favor of a corporatist police state, with military troops on the streets and Homeland security goons throwing up roadblocks and strip-searching toddlers with Chertoff radiation machines.

Those aren't Romney's Fed and Treasury lieutenants, blatant holdovers from the Bush crime syndicate, that continue to surrender trillions of dollars to the banking mafia. It's not Romney who has ordered the unlawful imprisonment and torture of citizens and non-citizens alike; it is not Mitt's Pentagon sending flying robots all around the world to commit wanton murder, like some sort of deranged super-villain in the pay of McDonnell Douglas.

True, Romney is eager to do all these things, but he hasn't actually done them yet -- and since we profess to believe in the rule of law, we can't hold Romney accountable for crimes he has not yet committed. That makes him the lesser of two evils compared to a certain war criminal with a peace prize."

Add to that the Patriot Act renewals, the NDAA, Obama claiming the right to murder US citizens extra judicially, shutting down more MMJ dispensaries in 4 years than Bush did in 8 (after promising to leave them alone), providing assistance to islamists in Libya Egypt and Syria, and much much more.

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RE: Romney Tells Millionaire Donors What He REALLY Thin... - 9/18/2012 12:04:39 PM   
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ORIGINAL: isoLadyOwner


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ORIGINAL: DomKen


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ORIGINAL: isoLadyOwner


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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

Ah, I am no big fan of Obama myself, but comparatively..........


Comparatively there is very little difference.

Obama has done so much to solidify fascism in the USA I simply can not vote for him. Obama earned my contempt by promising hope and change then continuing to move the USA towards a police state.

Could you perhaps list what the President has done to move the country toward fascism?

<snip long non response>

So either you have no idea what fascism means or you could not produce any evidence in support of your claims. I suggest you either find out what fascism is or you stop making up shit about people you don't like.

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RE: Romney Tells Millionaire Donors What He REALLY Thin... - 9/18/2012 12:05:28 PM   
isoLadyOwner


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Status: offline 		Another example of Obama style fascism and control:

Susanne Posel, Chief Editor of Occupy Corporatism, points out:


“In March of 2012, Obama signed the National Defense Resources Preparedness (NDRP) executive order that declared peacetime martial law. Obama granted himself authority over all domestic energy, production, transportation, food and water, all in the name of National Security.”
■The Secretary of Defense has power over all water resources.
■The Secretary of Commerce has power over all material services and facilities, including construction materials.
■The Secretary of Transportation has power over all forms of civilian transportation.
■The Secretary of Agriculture has power over food resources and facilities, livestock plant health resources and the domestic distribution of farm equipment.
■The Secretary of Health and Human Services has power over all health resources.
■The Secretary of Energy has power over all forms of energy.

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RE: Romney Tells Millionaire Donors What He REALLY Thin... - 9/18/2012 12:06:58 PM   
isoLadyOwner


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ORIGINAL: DomKen


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ORIGINAL: isoLadyOwner


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ORIGINAL: DomKen


quote:

ORIGINAL: isoLadyOwner


quote:

ORIGINAL: mnottertail

Ah, I am no big fan of Obama myself, but comparatively..........


Comparatively there is very little difference.

Obama has done so much to solidify fascism in the USA I simply can not vote for him. Obama earned my contempt by promising hope and change then continuing to move the USA towards a police state.

Could you perhaps list what the President has done to move the country toward fascism?

<snip long non response>

So either you have no idea what fascism means or you could not produce any evidence in support of your claims. I suggest you either find out what fascism is or you stop making up shit about people you don't like.



Fascism – A political philosophy, movement, or regime that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition

Another example of Obama style fascism and control:

Susanne Posel, Chief Editor of Occupy Corporatism, points out:


“In March of 2012, Obama signed the National Defense Resources Preparedness (NDRP) executive order that declared peacetime martial law. Obama granted himself authority over all domestic energy, production, transportation, food and water, all in the name of National Security.”
■The Secretary of Defense has power over all water resources.
■The Secretary of Commerce has power over all material services and facilities, including construction materials.
■The Secretary of Transportation has power over all forms of civilian transportation.
■The Secretary of Agriculture has power over food resources and facilities, livestock plant health resources and the domestic distribution of farm equipment.
■The Secretary of Health and Human Services has power over all health resources.
■The Secretary of Energy has power over all forms of energy.


< Message edited by isoLadyOwner -- 9/18/2012 12:07:36 PM >

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RE: Romney Tells Millionaire Donors What He REALLY Thin... - 9/18/2012 12:08:43 PM   
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60% of the peoplewho pay no income taxes are employed and therefore pay 15.3% in payroll tax, most of the rest are retired. Romney is officially unemployed on the only tax return we've seen so he paid nothing in payroll taxes and his entire federal tax burden was 13.9%.

So who exactly is the parasite with no personal responsibility?
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/ezra-klein/wp/2012/09/17/romneys-theory-of-the-taker-class-and-why-it-matters/

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RE: Romney Tells Millionaire Donors What He REALLY Thin... - 9/18/2012 12:09:29 PM   
isoLadyOwner


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Status: offline 		Quotes from "AJ"

■Mandating that America’s immigration laws will no longer be enforced.
■Passing the DREAM Act via a policy memo.
■Instituting Cap and Trade via regulations.
■Instructing that the Defense of Marriage Act will no longer be enforced.
■Deliberately arming drug cartels with weapons, which led to the murder of hundreds, if not thousands of Mexicans, including the murder of American Border Patrol Agent Brian Terry.
■Permitting drug cartels to operate within the US, as evidenced by the beheadings in America that the media refuse to report.
■Bringing known terrorists/un-indicted co-conspirators into our White House and into our government to dictate US military and intelligence training, policy, rules of engagement and to receive access to classified National Security information.
■Mandating that America’s voting laws will no longer be enforced, including voter intimidation by the New Black Panthers and actively fighting every attempt by states to clean their voter rolls or to institute voter ID laws.
■Mandating a moratorium on drilling even though it violates a court order.
■Taking over property, resources and industry through executive fiat (i.e. an authoritative determination: dictate).
■Presiding over the United Nations (UN), something no other US President has ever done because it is a direct violation of our Constitution.
■Actively working to cede US sovereignty to the UN via treaties which, thankfully, are not yet acceptable to other countries.

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RE: Romney Tells Millionaire Donors What He REALLY Thin... - 9/18/2012 12:15:22 PM   
DomKen


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ORIGINAL: isoLadyOwner

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ORIGINAL: DomKen


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ORIGINAL: isoLadyOwner


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ORIGINAL: DomKen


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ORIGINAL: isoLadyOwner


quote:

ORIGINAL: mnottertail

Ah, I am no big fan of Obama myself, but comparatively..........


Comparatively there is very little difference.

Obama has done so much to solidify fascism in the USA I simply can not vote for him. Obama earned my contempt by promising hope and change then continuing to move the USA towards a police state.

Could you perhaps list what the President has done to move the country toward fascism?

<snip long non response>

So either you have no idea what fascism means or you could not produce any evidence in support of your claims. I suggest you either find out what fascism is or you stop making up shit about people you don't like.



Fascism – A political philosophy, movement, or regime that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition

Another example of Obama style fascism and control:

Susanne Posel, Chief Editor of Occupy Corporatism, points out:


“In March of 2012, Obama signed the National Defense Resources Preparedness (NDRP) executive order that declared peacetime martial law. Obama granted himself authority over all domestic energy, production, transportation, food and water, all in the name of National Security.”
■The Secretary of Defense has power over all water resources.
■The Secretary of Commerce has power over all material services and facilities, including construction materials.
■The Secretary of Transportation has power over all forms of civilian transportation.
■The Secretary of Agriculture has power over food resources and facilities, livestock plant health resources and the domestic distribution of farm equipment.
■The Secretary of Health and Human Services has power over all health resources.
■The Secretary of Energy has power over all forms of energy.


You'll believe any shit you get in an all caps email.

The EO in question is about disaster preparedness and is required by the Defense Production Act of 1950. It is not a declaration of martial law and it is not a takeover of private industry.
http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2012/03/16/executive-order-national-defense-resources-preparedness

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RE: Romney Tells Millionaire Donors What He REALLY Thin... - 9/18/2012 12:20:13 PM   
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Status: offline 		Once again Obama backers attempt to marginalize dissent, I don't read all caps emails btw and you don't seem to be able to dispute that Obama signed the EO.

Obama was not required to sign such an over reaching Executive Order. No other President since 1950 grabbed so much power, the power grab was not mandated by the Defense Production Act of 1950.



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RE: Romney Tells Millionaire Donors What He REALLY Thin... - 9/18/2012 12:26:49 PM   
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Quotes from "AJ"

■Mandating that America’s immigration laws will no longer be enforced.

The President has wide latitude to set policy in regards to immigration law. Nothing new here (and the President has deported far more people than his predecessor).

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■Passing the DREAM Act via a policy memo.

Not actually true
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■Instituting Cap and Trade via regulations.

Again not reality
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■Instructing that the Defense of Marriage Act will no longer be enforced.

Not what the President did. He instructed the DoJ to cease defending the constitutionality of DOMA. the law is still being enofrced (same sex married couples still get no federal marriage benefits and federal employees SSM are still not recognized).
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■Deliberately arming drug cartels with weapons, which led to the murder of hundreds, if not thousands of Mexicans, including the murder of American Border Patrol Agent Brian Terry.

Program created by long term federal employees started under Bush. POTUS probably never heard of it till it blew up.
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■Permitting drug cartels to operate within the US, as evidenced by the beheadings in America that the media refuse to report.

Not reported because it never happened.
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■Bringing known terrorists/un-indicted co-conspirators into our White House and into our government to dictate US military and intelligence training, policy, rules of engagement and to receive access to classified National Security information.

No known terrorists or unindicted co conspirators are Obama appointees or White House staff.
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■Mandating that America’s voting laws will no longer be enforced, including voter intimidation by the New Black Panthers and actively fighting every attempt by states to clean their voter rolls or to institute voter ID laws.

Actually means the President has defended voting rights.
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■Mandating a moratorium on drilling even though it violates a court order.

Never actually happened.
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■Taking over property, resources and industry through executive fiat (i.e. an authoritative determination: dictate).

vague claim probably about the auto industry. The President saved the indsutry and then got out of it. Those companies are not under the direction of the federal government.
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■Presiding over the United Nations (UN), something no other US President has ever done because it is a direct violation of our Constitution.

The President is not the SG so just a lie.
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■Actively working to cede US sovereignty to the UN via treaties which, thankfully, are not yet acceptable to other countries.

The Constitution specifically allow treaties and we have entered into many UN sponsored treaties before Obama took office and none since he took office.

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