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RE: Bisexual submissive women - 10/1/2012 12:05:29 PM   
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One was enough. When you can have a close personal moment with a woman who has an insane crush on you and feel nothing, you know it ain't happening. And Aries, have you SEEN some of my friends?

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RE: Bisexual submissive women - 10/1/2012 12:10:47 PM   
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Interesting thought.
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I agree with you, OsideGirl. Being open to doing things to please someone else is not the same as being that way for yourself. Also, TO ME, it takes more than sex to make you attracted to the opposite sex. Would you engage in a RELATIONSHIP with the same gender? Or just kill some hot times?


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RE: Bisexual submissive women - 10/1/2012 12:11:43 PM   
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Hib, I don't feel anything for most girls!
I hope that doesn't mean I'm gay because I
REALLY DON'T like seeing guys naked...

-Aries


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RE: Bisexual submissive women - 10/1/2012 12:12:20 PM   
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Haha I see a lot of denial!

Well probably most of my girlfriends and friends
fit what I said.

I wonder how many of you straight girls have had
more than one Les experience...

-Aries
Much to MP's (My husband's) great disappointment...... None.




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RE: Bisexual submissive women - 10/1/2012 12:12:42 PM   
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There are so many men who are into the myth of "forced bi"...who are men who actually just want 1) permission and 2) someone to provide them the action. It's amusing to compare the difference!

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RE: Bisexual submissive women - 10/1/2012 12:12:43 PM   
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I base it on independent (meaning no other influence) sexual attraction and sexual engagement with both genders.


That's where my frustration is coming in. I have permission to have a female playmate. Master does not care if he is involved, as long as he knows what is going on. 99% of the women I talk to will only do it if their D type is involved and are told to by their D type.

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RE: Bisexual submissive women - 10/1/2012 12:14:00 PM   
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quote:

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Hib, I don't feel anything for most girls!
I hope that doesn't mean I'm gay because I
REALLY DON'T like seeing guys naked...

-Aries




I don't feel anything for most men! But I love naked women. I WIN!!!

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RE: Bisexual submissive women - 10/1/2012 12:15:19 PM   
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I think bisexual is a difficult term because it is used to encompass a wide ranging set of behaviors, proclivities and orientations, i.e., anything that doesn't seem to fall into heterosexual or gay/lesbian gets put into the bisexual catchall category. And so I would say that the phrase by itself does not mean much unless you learn more about the person behind the label. You have many people who identify as bisexual, but as you have accurately pointed out, the term doesn't mean the same thing to each of us.

It would be nice to promote the use of a greater range of terms to describe sexual orientation, as I feel the word bisexual to be quite broad. But until some of the other terms become more widely used, I guess we are stuck with bisexual. It would be nice to see sites like this offer more than just bisexual as a descriptor.

It is a pet peeve of mine that most women who are looking for female-female experiences are doing it primarily to please a male partner in their lives. They aren't generally seeking it out as something for themselves. Although I don't begrudge them the use of the term bisexual.

And, in my experience, most women who self-identify as lesbian really prefer to be with other women who also self-identify as lesbian.

And then there are many in the bisexual camp who are happy to have sexual encounters, play partners with either gender, but not necessarily a primary monogamous relationship with either gender. For example, I have bisexual male friends who will have sex with women, but really prefer to be with men for their primary relationship. In the same way, some women who identify as bisexual, are still only interested in primary relationships with men.

I must confess that I know very few women who are equally at ease sexually with both genders, and equally at ease with actual public relationships with both genders.

Anyway, all of this is a long-winded statement about how inadequate the term bisexual is because it just encompasses too much. For the record, I actually believe sexuality is along a spectrum between straight and gay/lesbian with most people, even men, fall in between (even if some of us are unaware of our latent same gender tendencies). I think we really could use more descriptors for sexuality than the basic three (straight, gay/lesbian, bisexual).



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RE: Bisexual submissive women - 10/1/2012 12:17:59 PM   
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quote:


What do you think?



I think it's hot. Period.

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RE: Bisexual submissive women - 10/1/2012 12:18:43 PM   
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ACTually, I see a lot of honesty.

What you are expressing is based upon the very thing that fuels the drunken 'bi' girls behaviour. It's all, "Hey look at me, look at how hot I am!".

You see women KNOW that hot girl on girl action does it for most guys. So, the girls that are the most desperate to get the guys attention will behave in a way that gains it.

It's not rocket science.

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RE: Bisexual submissive women - 10/1/2012 12:19:00 PM   
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quote:

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What do you think?



I think it's hot. Period.



I think you'll fit in here just fine.

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RE: Bisexual submissive women - 10/1/2012 12:23:20 PM   
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I actually had a strange thing happen to me
when I was young, one of my girlfriends friends
was Les and had asked if I minded if she did
stuff with other girls.
My girlfriend asked me and I said fine as long as
I can watch... Anyway came to watching, and I
actually felt jealous and didn't like it!

Yet another reason I'm weird...

-Aries

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RE: Bisexual submissive women - 10/1/2012 12:24:39 PM   
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I actually had a strange thing happen to me
when I was young, one of my girlfriends friends
was Les and had asked if I minded if she did
stuff with other girls.
My girlfriend asked me and I said fine as long as
I can watch... Anyway came to watching, and I
actually felt jealous and didn't like it!

Yet another reason I'm weird...

-Aries


It is a true fact that I have never understood the point of a man and two women. Because even *I* wouldn't have any use for the man if there was a hot chick. Except to bring us lovely beverages, and be erect as necessary.

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RE: Bisexual submissive women - 10/1/2012 12:26:11 PM   
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That's where my frustration is coming in. I have permission to have a female playmate. Master does not care if he is involved, as long as he knows what is going on. 99% of the women I talk to will only do it if their D type is involved and are told to by their D type.
I absolutely understand your frustration from your vantage point. If it were Me, I don't think I'd be thrilled, either. It's got too much of a 'well, I'll do it but it's not exactly a turn on' kind of vibe. That would be such a turn off, to Me, that the conversation would end right there.
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ORIGINAL: LaTigresse

ACTually, I see a lot of honesty.

What you are expressing is based upon the very thing that fuels the drunken 'bi' girls behaviour. It's all, "Hey look at me, look at how hot I am!".

You see women KNOW that hot girl on girl action does it for most guys. So, the girls that are the most desperate to get the guys attention will behave in a way that gains it.

It's not rocket science.

Bingo!



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RE: Bisexual submissive women - 10/1/2012 12:29:47 PM   
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It is a true fact that I have never understood the point of a man and two women. Because even *I* wouldn't have any use for the man if there was a hot chick. Except to bring us lovely beverages, and be erect as necessary.


My ex said he felt immense pressure when in the bed with both of us. Eventually, he would only watch.


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RE: Bisexual submissive women - 10/1/2012 12:31:26 PM   
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The men in my husband's family has been tossing this line around for decades: "You piss off one woman now, why would you want to add another one?"

Aries, I've actually come across that more often than not in vanilla/Dom men. The running hypothesis is you're jealous that she doesn't look at you or pant at you or handle you the same way and it bothers you knowing that you can't compete with the other chick. That's the best as we could put in words anyway.

ETA to tie back to the topic,
I'm 70% lesbian, 20% narcissistic and 10% subject to heterosexual hormonal imperatives.
But I baulk at having a textbook romantic relationship with that much estrogen. Pure trouble, them needy bitches... >.> (indeed, myself included.)

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RE: Bisexual submissive women - 10/1/2012 12:33:17 PM   
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The jealousy and "good enough" is a big deal, and something that a lot of men don't think about. (they don't think about this with the cuck fantasy, either...)

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RE: Bisexual submissive women - 10/1/2012 12:33:25 PM   
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It is a true fact that I have never understood the point of a man and two women. Because even *I* wouldn't have any use for the man if there was a hot chick. Except to bring us lovely beverages, and be erect as necessary.
It's like I always say, do the math.

The man is going to, shall we say, expire at some point of a sexual adventure. If he's got the ability to get hard again, his performance/orgasm isn't going to be as good after the first one.

On the other hand, I can have unlimited orgasms and they get better as I go along.

Now, which really makes more sense? A guy with two chicks or one female with two men?



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RE: Bisexual submissive women - 10/1/2012 12:34:10 PM   
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ORIGINAL: LadyPact

quote:

ORIGINAL: OsideGirl
That's where my frustration is coming in. I have permission to have a female playmate. Master does not care if he is involved, as long as he knows what is going on. 99% of the women I talk to will only do it if their D type is involved and are told to by their D type.
I absolutely understand your frustration from your vantage point. If it were Me, I don't think I'd be thrilled, either. It's got too much of a 'well, I'll do it but it's not exactly a turn on' kind of vibe. That would be such a turn off, to Me, that the conversation would end right there.


It's the concept that I'm expected to be available to her D type. I have no urge to play with other men or to be a kink delivery system for someone that I'm not involved with.


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RE: Bisexual submissive women - 10/1/2012 12:35:01 PM   
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An interesting observation.

There are a LOT of men who claim they want a bisexual gf/partner.

There are damn few who can deal with the reality.

Life isnt a series of 3-ways with your partner bringing hot chicks to the bedroom. Sometimes you don't get invited and you have to be confident enough that, when it occurs, you dont feel threatened.

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