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RE: Cyber Dominantion/submission - 6/15/2006 12:20:53 PM   
WorldofSilence


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Status: offline 		Thank you jadedshadow, I wish you and your hubby a wonderful and fulfilling relationship, with your new slave. I must admit I was kindda daunted to replying, as sometimes I get attacked for my lack of grammer (not saying it's rubbish but I have a bad habit of getting the context wrong and giving the wrong impression)
Dare I say I think she will show you a beautiful world of expressions etc.. and she is pretty rare, I've yet to meet another deaf dom/sub anywhere near Me.

And to tripping diasy wisely put.



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RE: Cyber Dominantion/submission - 6/15/2006 12:32:19 PM   
Emperor1956


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Status: offline 		Well BRAVO to all of you (mostly, I note, submissives) who took the initial post of a clearly trolling OP seeking "lets trash the cyber-only people" and have reversed it to a clear statement of what you seek and why you seek it.  I skipped this thread originally because it was the same old tired "I'm so much better than you poor cyberpuppies, hah hah".  But it is nice to see some folks turn it around.  I think it started with MrrPete, correctly pointing out that people deserved respect.

I'm not a "cyberdom" -- my girl and I do not do "cyberplay".  But if I talk with My sweet girl every day online, are we in some part cyber?  We are real time, have met and keep (thank God) meeting and being together, but we are not 24/7 and in the gaps between seeing eachother, we surely use "online" to communicate.  I should add that my girl has a long history of online D/s roleplay, something which before I was educated, I would have disdained.  I do see problems with it (for instance, the people running many of these games appear to have no ethics and therefore they cause harm to the RPers).  But I begin to understand the attractions of online play, and online D/s.  (See darling, I'm somewhat educable *GRIN*).

And for the regulars who are so proudly "real time" and spent the first 10 posts or so in this thread trashing...shame shame.  Most of you know better.  ALL of you should have known better.

E.


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RE: Cyber Dominantion/submission - 6/15/2006 12:45:00 PM   
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Status: offline 		Eactly, those that use the cyber world to answer their needs instead of real life generally are involved in a real time relationship, one that means something to them. Something to important to leave it. I play in the cyber world. It's not cheating, in fact, my spouse is fully aware of it. He tries to dominate me, but can't quite get into it. I love him for trying. I love him for a lot of reasons. So since part of me needs to be tortured and humilated and to obey and serve, I have contact with a dom online. He enjoys giving me orders, and knowing that I am following them. For instance, he orders me to kneel in a corner for an hour, (this is just an example, far from what he general orders me to do) During that hour, he is at work in a meeting, but he can picture me, kneeling in that corner, suffering at his command. For us, the cyber thing works, we both get a bit of what we are looking for.

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RE: Cyber Dominantion/submission - 6/15/2006 7:05:23 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Emperor1956

Well BRAVO to all of you (mostly, I note, submissives) who took the initial post of a clearly trolling OP seeking "lets trash the cyber-only people" and have reversed it to a clear statement of what you seek and why you seek it.  I skipped this thread originally because it was the same old tired "I'm so much better than you poor cyberpuppies, hah hah".  But it is nice to see some folks turn it around.  I think it started with MrrPete, correctly pointing out that people deserved respect.


I agree it does appear it was just another lame attempt at yet another cyber-bash, especially since the OP who claimed to 'genuine want to know' has not bothered to return to comment on the replies received.  I also am happy to see that once the positive responses started to appear the cyber-bashers disappeared back into the woodwork to await the next thread that dares even hint at online.

quote:


I should add that my girl has a long history of online D/s roleplay, something which before I was educated, I would have disdained. 


Like you, before I sorta happened into online I felt the same and shamefully admit that I had the occasional snicker behind my hand when I heard of such relationships.


quote:


I do see problems with it (for instance, the people running many of these games appear to have no ethics and therefore they cause harm to the RPers).  But I begin to understand the attractions of online play, and online D/s.  (See darling, I'm somewhat educable *GRIN*).


Online roleplay and online D/s are 2 different things.  If you go into some chatrooms you will often see roleplay taking place.  It is understandable that those without any experience in online get the impression that this is what people call online D/s and thus voice their very negative misconceptions.

Online roleplay is exactly that.  Its 2 or more people that are having fun participating in creating an interactive fantasy.  It is similar to reading or writing fiction, but because its done interactively in real time, no one knows for sure where the story will lead.  For some this is a very enjoyable form of entertainment and I know many 'reallifers' that enjoy this game.

Brosco


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RE: Cyber Dominantion/submission - 6/15/2006 7:59:30 PM   
enthralled


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quote:

ORIGINAL: LadyJulieAnn

Here we go with another "cyber means nothing" thread.  For some people who can't experience D/s in real life (for a variety of reasons), online interactions can be fulfilling.  Some may not see it as fulfilling as a real life relationship, but isn't that for the person to decide?
 
Be well,
Julie


My intentions weren't to imply that "cyber means nothing". As a matter of fact, I believe my thread began something like this:
quote:

To each thier own and all that hoopla .... but I'm genuinely interested in understanding this concept so any explanations are appreciated!


My nature is to try to understand .... sometimes questions have to be asked in order to do so.

~enthralled


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RE: Cyber Dominantion/submission - 6/15/2006 8:20:56 PM   
enthralled


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Status: offline 		I must say that the meaning behind my question seems to have gotten lost somewhere in the translation here!
I am not judging those who DO cyber D/s- nor did I say it wasn't real. What I wish to understand is the dynamics behind it .... the mentality. What I DID say was that I just dont understand how the mentality can be the same in cyber as it is in face-to-face contact.
Also, I wasn't talking about 'cyber-sex' ... to me, D/s is not the equivalent of sex.
Had I asked a question like 'why do people call themselves submissive?' ... would it have gotten the same defensive responses?
I asked a genuine question hoping for genuine answers.

No ..... I dont have to understand it but perhaps I would like to! Tolerance does go both ways. -smile-

Thanks Albatross for a reply that actually made sense and was useful without flaming me for asking the question!

~enthralled

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RE: Cyber Dominantion/submission - 6/15/2006 8:31:25 PM   
enthralled


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quote:

ORIGINAL: Emperor1956

Well BRAVO to all of you (mostly, I note, submissives) who took the initial post of a clearly trolling OP seeking "lets trash the cyber-only people" and have reversed it to a clear statement of what you seek and why you seek it.  I skipped this thread originally because it was the same old tired "I'm so much better than you poor cyberpuppies, hah hah".  But it is nice to see some folks turn it around.  I think it started with MrrPete, correctly pointing out that people deserved respect.

I'm not a "cyberdom" -- my girl and I do not do "cyberplay".  But if I talk with My sweet girl every day online, are we in some part cyber?  We are real time, have met and keep (thank God) meeting and being together, but we are not 24/7 and in the gaps between seeing eachother, we surely use "online" to communicate.  I should add that my girl has a long history of online D/s roleplay, something which before I was educated, I would have disdained.  I do see problems with it (for instance, the people running many of these games appear to have no ethics and therefore they cause harm to the RPers).  But I begin to understand the attractions of online play, and online D/s.  (See darling, I'm somewhat educable *GRIN*).

And for the regulars who are so proudly "real time" and spent the first 10 posts or so in this thread trashing...shame shame.  Most of you know better.  ALL of you should have known better.

E.



And thank you Emperor for the intolerant label (a troll I think it was? ) and altered perception of the reasoning behind the question I asked.
I did not 'trash' anyone. I asked a genuine question. I would like to understand it.
As I posted earlier .... in order to understand (and relate), sometimes we have to ask questions.

Thanks for the tolerance,
~enthralled


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RE: Cyber Dominantion/submission - 6/15/2006 8:40:47 PM   
Brosco


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Status: offline 		I apologise enthralled if yours was a genuine question, its just that every couple of days there is a new thread on this which always contains an unlimited and unrestricted amount of flames and slamming.  The topic has been done to death over and over and either doing a search or just scrolling back over the last few days will see plenty of other discussions that may have enlightened you - in fact I have seen the response given by LA repeated in at least 2 others in the last couple of weeks.  Had you been new here it would be understandable that you haven't seen them, so unless something new has occurred in your life that has made you take an interest (while you just ignored them previously), I am sure you can see why some received that opinion.

While I don't think you were flamed - certainly not to the extent that anyone who admits to being online suffers constantly here, I again apologise for expressing an opinion based on what I see and that it was incorrect.

Brosco

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RE: Cyber Dominantion/submission - 6/15/2006 8:43:02 PM   
enthralled


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Status: offline 		Brosco ....
The reason I have not replied until now is simple ... I went to work after I posted the thread, worked a 13 hour shift, came home and had dinner ..... I have no computer at work.

I did not realize that being a hard worker would be cause for name-calling. Perhaps I should have ran home during my lunchbreak and made replies so that I would not be labled a 'cyber-basher'?

For those of you who took this thread out of context, dubbed me with unjust labels, accused me of 'trashing' people, and just flat out became pissed off over it ............................. oh well!!!!
I'll continue to ask questions about things I want to understand and probably manage to piss a few more people off! .......LOL

Edited to say that I must have posted this at the same time you posted Brosco ... and thank you for the apology- it WAS a genuine question. I not only wish to understand but am writing an article on the subject. Not to flame, not to make fun of, but to help heighten awareness of the different facets of this thing we call our 'lifestyle'.
And actually, if you'll look back, I havent been on the boards in a couple of months so what I'm guilty of is posting a new thread in hopes of getting different responses.... lol

~enthralled

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RE: Cyber Dominantion/submission - 6/15/2006 8:48:56 PM   
timeoutgurlie


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Status: offline 		I find it's a lot of fun to send 'dirty' emails, I do it often with my partner.  We've only been together a short time and I'm a bit insecure about what he's going to enjoy or not be too into, and I can use the safety net of an email or IM to probe his fantasies and reveal some of mine.  Granted, we had actual sex before we did anything online, and obivously real sex and real togetherness is always so far beyond online...but...that doesn't mean online isn't still fun and very usefull.

On the ego side, it's also a boost to know I can give him pleasure when I'm not even there and it's just my words making images in his mind

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RE: Cyber Dominantion/submission - 6/15/2006 8:51:46 PM   
enthralled


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quote:

ORIGINAL: timeoutgurlie

On the ego side, it's also a boost to know I can give him pleasure when I'm not even there and it's just my words making images in his mind


LMAO ... now see- THAT makes sense!

~enthralled

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RE: Cyber Dominantion/submission - 6/15/2006 8:56:35 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: enthralled


Edited to say that I must have posted this at the same time you posted Brosco ... and thank you for the apology- it WAS a genuine question. I not only wish to understand but am writing an article on the subject. Not to flame, not to make fun of, but to help heighten awareness of the different facets of this thing we call our 'lifestyle'.

~enthralled


Not a problem and that also explains now why you have an interest now in something that you may have just ignored in previous posts.  I hope that you found the genuine posts by those that have had positive experiences useful. 

Of course, there are plenty of negative experiences too - but then again.. the same applies to 'reallife' and to be honest we probably don't hear about as near as many of those.

Brosco

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RE: Cyber Dominantion/submission - 6/15/2006 8:58:22 PM   
Emperor1956


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Status: offline 		I don't want to divert what has become a very interesting thread, but as I was one who called the OP a "troller", let me point out why I thought that enthralled was trying to pick a fight over cyber domination:  

1. 
quote:

To each thier own and all that hoopla .... but I'm genuinely interested in understanding this concept so any explanations are appreciated!
Serious inquiries about a subject rarely refer to the thoughts of others as "all that hoopla".

2.  The use of quotations around "Master", "cyber-collar" and "giving of oneself" indicate at the minimum a dismissiveness of those who use those terms in cyber.  At the maximum, these quotes indicate outright disbelief.

3. 
quote:

I just don't understand how the mentality can be the same (or as strong) in fantasy as it is in reality. . . especially the 'giving of oneself' to a keyboard and an IM box???
  This is hardly the writing of a curious, neutral observer.  It sounded then, and still sounds, to Me like a troll.

BUT...

In posts on this type of board, there is very little nuance, no expression, no voice.  Therefore, what you say is what we get.   I think the tone and style of the original post were not well thought out to present a genuinely interested, neutral party.  However, enthralled, if I was wrong when I took what you said to be dismissive and trolling, then I apologize.   

Now, is the thread about you and how misunderstood you were?  No.  It is it about the original question, and I'd like to read what others have to say.

E.

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RE: Cyber Dominantion/submission - 6/15/2006 9:06:47 PM   
Tikkiee


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quote:

ORIGINAL: LadyJulieAnn

Here we go with another "cyber means nothing" thread.  For some people who can't experience D/s in real life (for a variety of reasons), online interactions can be fulfilling.  Some may not see it as fulfilling as a real life relationship, but isn't that for the person to decide?
 
Be well,
Julie

Nicely stated.
 
Just because it does nothing for me, does not mean that someone else is not receiving the fullfillment from it that THEY need. For some, it's all they can give. For others, it takes the place until they can see each other again. And still for others, it's just a way to live out a certain fantasy.
Everyone has their own needs, and goes about fullfilling them in their own way. It's their life, let them live it.

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RE: Cyber Dominantion/submission - 6/15/2006 9:12:11 PM   
enthralled


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quote:

Now, is the thread about you and how misunderstood you were?  No.  It is it about the original question, and I'd like to read what others have to say.


Agreed!!!! However, since I WAS misunderstood, I saw fit to clarify for those who were choosing to turn it into something it wasnt.
I use quotations as it is proper writing because I would be quoting others.
I used "all that hoopla'" in reference to the statement " to each thier own".... not towards those who choose cyber D/s.

... and now, on to your regular programming .........


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RE: Cyber Dominantion/submission - 6/15/2006 9:26:16 PM   
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Status: offline 		i've been involved in one on-line/cyber/phone only relationship, although it wasn't supposed to stay that way, or last the years that it did.  i wasn't looking for it, and, in fact, fought against it.  At the time i was going through a nasty divorce, with tax deductions still living at home, but it was all that was available to me at the time.  It was, in many ways, an extremely happy time for me, having been in an unhappy time for what seemed like forever.  We were practically joined at the hip, my thoughts and body were his (and yeah, i know how strange that sounds, but true nonetheless).  He answered every question i had, if he could, and asked me more about myself and of myself than i would have ever thought about.  i was fortunate that he was a good man, who didn't take advantage of me, didn't have that "I AM DOMitis" that so many on-line do.  It was a great learning experience, about bdsm, M/s and just life in general.  He rarely "told" me what to do or gave me easy answers, but he was a Master at showing me how to find my own answers, and to grow from them. (i kept a bucket of sand close by the computer in case it caught fire from over use..lol)  i found a strength and inner power i didn't know i had, and wouldn't have even known to look had it not been for his guidance.  i was coming out of a situation that while not necessarily abusive, it was demoralizing, and dehumanizing.  my self-image was lower than low, and he made me feel wonderful about myself, thought i was beautiful -- at least on the inside -- and most important -- he listened to me, he loved me and i him.

Would i ever go into that kind of relationship again?  Absolutely not.  i've since tasted and felt a relationship where the computers and emails aren't necessary because i've been face to face, heat drawn to heat, and i agree that it's so much "more".  The first involved only my heart, after all.  However, i wouldn't trade that time, that learning and loving, the knowing of him for anything.  It also doesn't mean i'd recommend it to any one else. There are incredible frustrations involved, and God forbid, dangers as well if the relationship isn't with someone honorable. It also takes a great deal of faith and trust on the part of both partners.  Perhaps i was too trusting, but i rarely if ever doubted when he told me something he'd done and i knew that when he told me to do something i did it, trusting that he knew what was right for me and for us. 

i know that most not only don't understand this type of relationship, but seem to get a great deal of satisfaction, appear to feel sense of superiority and fun putting it (and the people involved) down.  Since i don't like to be flammed, i don't write too much about that time in my life.  The fact is, i know what it was like and that's really all that's important since i don't think that i have anything to prove, any more than others around here.  i can no more convince anyone else that it wasn't all game playing and posturing and harmful to the psyche than anyone can convince me that some of their kinks or their type of relationship would be absolutely perfect for me -- and i usually don't bother to try.  (i may be a machosist, but even i draw the line at beating my head against a brick wall..lol).  The difference, however, is that i try not to be consending and i don't put people down for their ideas, or lifestyle, or relationship.  The old saying about not judging a man (or woman) unless you've walked a mile in their shoes has a good point.

i probably should probably erase this whole thing, but what the heck..i can't sleep and need something to do..lol.  Sweet dreams y'all :)

regards,
jimini





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RE: Cyber Dominantion/submission - 6/15/2006 9:30:02 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Brosco

Online roleplay and online D/s are 2 different things.  If you go into some chatrooms you will often see roleplay taking place.  It is understandable that those without any experience in online get the impression that this is what people call online D/s and thus voice their very negative misconceptions.

Online roleplay is exactly that.  Its 2 or more people that are having fun participating in creating an interactive fantasy.  It is similar to reading or writing fiction, but because its done interactively in real time, no one knows for sure where the story will lead.  For some this is a very enjoyable form of entertainment and I know many 'reallifers' that enjoy this game.


I've done both, actually.  When I was brand-new to kink and D/s and all things bdsm, I wandered into the Yahoo chatrooms.  There I found conversation, discussion and others in similar circumstances. I hadn't told my husband yet -- we'd been married a long time and I didn't know how, especially since I barely understood myself.  So I spent my time with a dear soul who talked to me online in the spirit of remaining faithful to his very Christian non-D/s wife.  We talked and read and explored things as much as possible, given the limitations of the IM box.  We both bought copies of "Come Hither" by Gloria Brame and gave each other reading assignments from the chapters.  Those readings set the stage for later discussion as we talked about the issues this exploration of D/s raised for both of us.  I honestly believe I could not have explored the topic more lovingly or carefully had we met every day face to face. While not the same as real time, I wouldn't trade that experience for anything and I'm grateful that my early efforts were helped by such a kind and patient Dom.

I've also been involved in some very heavy M/s role-play, which in my case wasn't as many people think, where a person will go into a chat room, pretend to be someone with a partner, log off when done.  I played with the same group of people for 2 1/2 years and we all came to know each other - both within game and off the port - very well.  I've met a few of them in person since meeting on that board and we are extremely tight now.  But know that it was not simply "fantasy entertainment."  As with any group of people there were the good and the bad - it just happened that the person running things was an emotional sadist.  Believe what you will -- it doesn't take an in-person encounter for one to be truly affected by what another says online. 

People will go where they can to get their needs met.  Not everyone can meet real time or even wants to.  I'm glad to see the variety of responses here that show how diverse D/s can be -- I, for one, think it's great.

~Holly



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RE: Cyber Dominantion/submission - 6/15/2006 10:44:39 PM   
timeoutgurlie


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quote:

ORIGINAL: Emperor1956

I don't want to divert what has become a very interesting thread, but as I was one who called the OP a "troller", let me point out why I thought that enthralled was trying to pick a fight over cyber domination:  

1. 
quote:

To each thier own and all that hoopla .... but I'm genuinely interested in understanding this concept so any explanations are appreciated!
Serious inquiries about a subject rarely refer to the thoughts of others as "all that hoopla".

2.  The use of quotations around "Master", "cyber-collar" and "giving of oneself" indicate at the minimum a dismissiveness of those who use those terms in cyber.  At the maximum, these quotes indicate outright disbelief.

3. 
quote:

I just don't understand how the mentality can be the same (or as strong) in fantasy as it is in reality. . . especially the 'giving of oneself' to a keyboard and an IM box???
  This is hardly the writing of a curious, neutral observer.  It sounded then, and still sounds, to Me like a troll.

BUT...

In posts on this type of board, there is very little nuance, no expression, no voice.  Therefore, what you say is what we get.   I think the tone and style of the original post were not well thought out to present a genuinely interested, neutral party.  However, enthralled, if I was wrong when I took what you said to be dismissive and trolling, then I apologize.   

Now, is the thread about you and how misunderstood you were?  No.  It is it about the original question, and I'd like to read what others have to say.

E.


You sound a lil anal dude, relax a lil, life's too short

Btw, anyone else notice how the word anal being used on *this* site has a totally different 'feel' than in regular, every day conversations?  I say it at work sometimes now and start giggling like a fucking moron

As for the original poster...happy you laughed AND happy it made sense for you.  Nothing like having him come over when I get off work and ravage me like a wild beast then tell me he only read the first 3 paragraphs  lol

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RE: Cyber Dominantion/submission - 6/15/2006 11:39:26 PM   
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ORIGINAL: enthralled

To each thier own and all that hoopla .... but I'm genuinely interested in understanding this concept so any explanations are appreciated!

I've seen submissives who have never even met the man/woman they call thier 'Master' and vice-versa... the wearing of a 'cyber-collar'.
I've received (detailed) emails from people making DEMANDS that I do this and that.
I just don't understand how the mentality can be the same (or as strong) in fantasy as it is in reality. . . especially the 'giving of oneself' to a keyboard and an IM box???

Thanks for any replies in advance.
~enthralled


When I was younger and limited by the fact I was living at home with my mother, electronic play was kind of the limitation I had to work with.  But that got old after a while and eventually found a guy to play with.  Sneaking around on mom was a bigger production than meeting my first rubber Dom.

I can understand it from the perspective of exploring, but it's not the same as doing it with the other person for real.

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RE: Cyber Dominantion/submission - 6/16/2006 12:01:13 AM   
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ORIGINAL: enthralled

I just don't understand how the mentality can be the same (or as strong) in fantasy as it is in reality. . . especially the 'giving of oneself' to a keyboard and an IM box???



It's a great place for minds to meet, but unless the body is following close behind, it's just masturbation fantasy.

One really big problem I see.  It takes me ten minutes to give a good description of an action that will take me a minute and a half to complete in real time.  I've only got so many minutes to spare, I know where I feel they are best spent.

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