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RE: need some help with my man - 11/3/2012 10:30:06 PM   
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Pssst Aswad #2 Where did you get that he is an atheist? She has said he is non-Muslim. Muslims would call Christian or atheist -Infidel-. But all we know so far, I believe, is that he is not a Muslim.

We already have folks saying he may be gay just cuz his sex drive and-or kink do not match hers. Lets not arbitrarily tar him with yet aNOTHer brush.

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RE: need some help with my man - 11/4/2012 1:44:22 AM   
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The OP is married. To a non-muslim, probably an atheist. In a country that doesn't seem more repressed than the USA. None of the risk factors you mention are present. I would be far more worried about mentioning such a thing in West Virginia than Istanbul. What's so hard to get here?

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Again you assume & don't read! She's ENGAGED not married. While she says he's not muslim that's DOES NOT mean athiest!! What's so hard to get is you keep wiping her experience, and mine for that matter, with your own bias instead of using the facts as presented to you. OP admits he's a prude & conservative, this means "hey hon I'm kinky, how about a lil spanky spanky" is as bad an idea as asking a west virginia minister!



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RE: need some help with my man - 11/4/2012 2:53:48 AM   
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Mea culpa.

Engaged, not married; check.

Atheism was an educated guess, seeing as about half the people there are secular, but not established; check.

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RE: need some help with my man - 11/4/2012 3:34:11 AM   
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he is atheist.

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RE: need some help with my man - 11/4/2012 6:30:43 AM   
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Hat tip to Ron.

Well done.

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RE: need some help with my man - 11/4/2012 6:34:36 AM   
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I think that it is way to early to take a wait and see attitude on this one.

1.  Did she shut her mouth after the current close.?
2.  Is he getting his hose her down night together, or is it done?
3.  Did she get anywhere?
4. Is she going to come back and tell us the results, without all the hee hee bullshit?
5. and I could go on and on.      

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RE: need some help with my man - 11/4/2012 6:51:57 AM   
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What I'm saying, Ron, is, "You give good map."

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RE: need some help with my man - 11/4/2012 7:03:12 AM   
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sinfulneeds I actually have a question for you. What was his upbringing? Many people are taught from a young age that the subject of sex is taboo. This is especially true in certain cultures. You could not only be dealing with whatever hang-ups he may have but also may be dealing with a societal, religious or cultural barrier to this subject.

There are things that you can do though. If you do not want to, or he will not allow, a discussion on sex and the D/s relationship then you can introduce him to it slowly. During sex tell him that you want him to pull your hair, hold your hands down, give you a slap on the ass or any number of other things that could be considered as part of the D/s relationship.

However do not present it as part of the BDSM lifestyle. When he does it, make sure afterwards that you tell him how much you enjoyed it. This will reinforce to him that doing this is acceptable with you. This type of encouragement will take a long time to get him to a more dominant roll. Or you will find out that he has no interest in this and then you have another decision to make.

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RE: need some help with my man - 11/4/2012 10:00:56 AM   
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Hun er Norsk? Kan du tro det?

Uff Da.

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RE: need some help with my man - 11/4/2012 10:26:43 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Muchtado

sinfulneeds I actually have a question for you. What was his upbringing? Many people are taught from a young age that the subject of sex is taboo. This is especially true in certain cultures. You could not only be dealing with whatever hang-ups he may have but also may be dealing with a societal, religious or cultural barrier to this subject.

i have no idea how his parents spoke or was about sex. his parents are muslim , but not in any extreme way.

There are things that you can do though. If you do not want to, or he will not allow, a discussion on sex and the D/s relationship then you can introduce him to it slowly. During sex tell him that you want him to pull your hair, hold your hands down, give you a slap on the ass or any number of other things that could be considered as part of the D/s relationship.
i have tried , but he "forgets" after one time :P

However do not present it as part of the BDSM lifestyle. When he does it, make sure afterwards that you tell him how much you enjoyed it. This will reinforce to him that doing this is acceptable with you. This type of encouragement will take a long time to get him to a more dominant roll. Or you will find out that he has no interest in this and then you have another decision to make.
i have told him he can be the dominate part .. as in a normal household .. but it has to be more communication , not just me running around doing anything he wants when he has no idea im even there..



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RE: need some help with my man - 11/4/2012 10:28:09 AM   
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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

Hun er Norsk? Kan du tro det?

Uff Da.

er det uffda at jeg er norsk ? hvorfor det ?? unnskyld meg da om jeg gjør så skam på det norske folk ... :(

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RE: need some help with my man - 11/4/2012 10:40:08 AM   
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NO, you shame NO people in my mind. Here (US) Uffda is more of a general purpose word.   It can be used among other things  (and was used in this case) as a matter of surprise.  I am american 2nd generation.   As al-Aswad will relate, your english is far better than my norsk.     

So, he will do something in the moment if you sort of make him, but only that time, doesn't expand upon the theme ever.  Ma jeg som hoeyre?  (I do not have the letters to make that keyboard)  not that I speak or spell it much.  




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RE: need some help with my man - 11/4/2012 12:04:54 PM   
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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

NO, you shame NO people in my mind. Here (US) Uffda is more of a general purpose word.   It can be used among other things  (and was used in this case) as a matter of surprise.  I am american 2nd generation.   As al-Aswad will relate, your english is far better than my norsk.     

So, he will do something in the moment if you sort of make him, but only that time, doesn't expand upon the theme ever.  Ma jeg som hoeyre?  (I do not have the letters to make that keyboard)  not that I speak or spell it much.  




hehehe
i really hope my english is better than ur norwegian since i am half english and have been raised in an english home ... :P

and i am very happy to hear i dont shame anyone :D

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RE: need some help with my man - 11/4/2012 12:40:28 PM   
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Hi all. I'm very new to this site (I just registered my account today) so please forgive me if I'm stepping out of bounds.

Sinfulneeds, I was in a position very similar to yours. I was living with and in love with someone for over 5 years. I'm a sub, he is not of our world. The big difference was that he knew people in the scene, and as such was not ignorant of what my kinks were. He was even willing to do some very small things for me. Nowhere near what a real session would give me mentally, but something. And I in turn tried to swallow my needs to keep the relationship going. Those needs don't go away though, and over time it became increasingly hard for me to even get excited about the more vanilla stuff we did together. When you have an itch, and your partner is scratching you everywhere but that itch, it grows to become the only thing that you can focus on.

By the end of the relationship, we were having sex about once a month, and even then only because I realised that it had been that long, and thought I should pretend interest. When it finally ended, it was tearfull because we still loved eachother, but we weren't in love with eachother. We were great together in everything else, and I still love him. In fact, 6 years after we ended, he is still my best friend.

What I would suggest to you is to step back and take a good, hard look at your fiancee and your relationship. You had mentioned that you were perfect for eachother in other ways, just not in the bedroom. What would change if you were close friends instead of engaged? Would you still be able to do the things that make you perfect together (travel, talking, fine dining, rock climbing, whatever it is...)? I have a number of ex's that I am still friends with, and even still work together with. It takes a lot of work, and a careful balance of what personal boundaries now exsist, and what personal details not to share (if he can't talk to you about sex now while you are having it, he really won't want to hear about the great session you had the night before). However, if you can both get over the initial awkwardness, and act like mature adults and not petty teenagers, it is possible to hold onto the friendship within the relationship without keeping the relationship that is not giving you what you need.

I hope this helps. I know this is a little long-winded, but I wanted to share my experience with you, since reading about yours reminded me so much of mine.


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RE: need some help with my man - 11/4/2012 12:44:08 PM   
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not just me running around doing anything he wants when he has no idea im even there..


So basically you want this on your terms. You want attention from him. You don't want to submit unless he sees you doing it and says something to you. Gotchya. So I'm going to assume you just want kinky sex. He's not into kinky sex, most likely because he grew up Muslim and that would be seen as a sin. He may be atheist now but that doesn't mean his upbringing didn't have something to do with his personality now. It definitely does.

You have two choices. Either stay and live with your sex life as is or leave. I won't tell you to talk to him about opening your relationship. That's not ever going to happen with him.

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RE: need some help with my man - 11/4/2012 1:10:56 PM   
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ORIGINAL: lovethyself

Hi all. I'm very new to this site (I just registered my account today) so please forgive me if I'm stepping out of bounds.

Sinfulneeds, I was in a position very similar to yours. I was living with and in love with someone for over 5 years. I'm a sub, he is not of our world. The big difference was that he knew people in the scene, and as such was not ignorant of what my kinks were. He was even willing to do some very small things for me. Nowhere near what a real session would give me mentally, but something. And I in turn tried to swallow my needs to keep the relationship going. Those needs don't go away though, and over time it became increasingly hard for me to even get excited about the more vanilla stuff we did together. When you have an itch, and your partner is scratching you everywhere but that itch, it grows to become the only thing that you can focus on.

By the end of the relationship, we were having sex about once a month, and even then only because I realised that it had been that long, and thought I should pretend interest. When it finally ended, it was tearfull because we still loved eachother, but we weren't in love with eachother. We were great together in everything else, and I still love him. In fact, 6 years after we ended, he is still my best friend.

What I would suggest to you is to step back and take a good, hard look at your fiancee and your relationship. You had mentioned that you were perfect for eachother in other ways, just not in the bedroom. What would change if you were close friends instead of engaged? Would you still be able to do the things that make you perfect together (travel, talking, fine dining, rock climbing, whatever it is...)? I have a number of ex's that I am still friends with, and even still work together with. It takes a lot of work, and a careful balance of what personal boundaries now exsist, and what personal details not to share (if he can't talk to you about sex now while you are having it, he really won't want to hear about the great session you had the night before). However, if you can both get over the initial awkwardness, and act like mature adults and not petty teenagers, it is possible to hold onto the friendship within the relationship without keeping the relationship that is not giving you what you need.

I hope this helps. I know this is a little long-winded, but I wanted to share my experience with you, since reading about yours reminded me so much of mine.


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Excellent first post...more like it please!!! Welcome to the boards

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RE: need some help with my man - 11/4/2012 1:30:29 PM   
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ORIGINAL: lovethyself

Hi all. I'm very new to this site (I just registered my account today) so please forgive me if I'm stepping out of bounds.

Sinfulneeds, I was in a position very similar to yours. I was living with and in love with someone for over 5 years. I'm a sub, he is not of our world. The big difference was that he knew people in the scene, and as such was not ignorant of what my kinks were. He was even willing to do some very small things for me. Nowhere near what a real session would give me mentally, but something. And I in turn tried to swallow my needs to keep the relationship going. Those needs don't go away though, and over time it became increasingly hard for me to even get excited about the more vanilla stuff we did together. When you have an itch, and your partner is scratching you everywhere but that itch, it grows to become the only thing that you can focus on.

By the end of the relationship, we were having sex about once a month, and even then only because I realised that it had been that long, and thought I should pretend interest. When it finally ended, it was tearfull because we still loved eachother, but we weren't in love with eachother. We were great together in everything else, and I still love him. In fact, 6 years after we ended, he is still my best friend.

What I would suggest to you is to step back and take a good, hard look at your fiancee and your relationship. You had mentioned that you were perfect for eachother in other ways, just not in the bedroom. What would change if you were close friends instead of engaged? Would you still be able to do the things that make you perfect together (travel, talking, fine dining, rock climbing, whatever it is...)? I have a number of ex's that I am still friends with, and even still work together with. It takes a lot of work, and a careful balance of what personal boundaries now exsist, and what personal details not to share (if he can't talk to you about sex now while you are having it, he really won't want to hear about the great session you had the night before). However, if you can both get over the initial awkwardness, and act like mature adults and not petty teenagers, it is possible to hold onto the friendship within the relationship without keeping the relationship that is not giving you what you need.

I hope this helps. I know this is a little long-winded, but I wanted to share my experience with you, since reading about yours reminded me so much of mine.


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thank you for a great reply!
i totally understand what you are saying.. but at the moment, i am not ready to be only friends with him... maybe in a while i will be . thats why i need to think long and hard before i act on any of this ..
i love him.. i know people here ask me why i love him when he is so different from me .. maybe its cus he is the only one i have, i dont know . all i know is that as of right now .. i love him with every cell of my body . even tho he can make me cry my eyes out or scream in rage .. he is still the one holding my heart... i may hate it .. but that wont change aything .. right now . hopefully i will stop loving him so i can move on .. this is something i have to work on.

i have periods where i can focus on us like a normal couple . where i can put all differences aside and just be him and me like other people are together .. and there are times where the hunger for more is so bad that i just wanna beg for it .. it usually last for a couple of days at the time ... i know it will always come back .. and i know it will probaly be worse and worse.. but hey.. i guess its all a part of the process...
i dont know ,, i feel alittle bit lost right now.

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RE: need some help with my man - 11/4/2012 1:33:12 PM   
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quote:

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quote:

not just me running around doing anything he wants when he has no idea im even there..


So basically you want this on your terms. You want attention from him. You don't want to submit unless he sees you doing it and says something to you. Gotchya. So I'm going to assume you just want kinky sex. He's not into kinky sex, most likely because he grew up Muslim and that would be seen as a sin. He may be atheist now but that doesn't mean his upbringing didn't have something to do with his personality now. It definitely does.

You have two choices. Either stay and live with your sex life as is or leave. I won't tell you to talk to him about opening your relationship. That's not ever going to happen with him.


i want him to know his place and mine . i want him to know what he is doing.. and how he is doing it .. i cant really make you understand this in the way i mean it .. but i dont wanna be pushed around like a rug. i want to be in a relationship where we are clear about what we are doing .. do i make any sense at all ?
yes i want the kinky sex too.. but i can deal with vanilla as well.. i just wish he knew what we were on about in this relationship .. instead of just making me feel like crap.

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RE: need some help with my man - 11/4/2012 1:50:36 PM   
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Well then you need to talk to him and tell him what you told us here.


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RE: need some help with my man - 11/4/2012 1:59:22 PM   
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he dont want to talk about it . he gets angry every time i say the word sex .. or anything that sounds like it ...

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