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Edwynn -> RE: How will the left react, if Obama loses? (11/6/2012 1:38:55 PM)

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ORIGINAL: lovmuffin


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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

Again... why do you need..........



It's late and I don't want to get into it all right now but the second amendment and paramilitary arms protect us from crooked politicians.


Give me a moment ...

I'm still trying to recover, that was quite a laugh.

I've never owned a gun, but if all it took was the populace having enough AK-47s to prevent the invasions that nobody wanted, and the bank bailouts, then I'm a discount AK-47 dealer- yesterday.

Anyway, I appreciate your saying that Clinton's indiscretion was not worthy of impeachment. I'll say to Aswad; it was ridiculous for Clinton to be dragged in front of the Congress (the US freakin' Congress) to have to answer to such a personal and trivial matter in the first place. No waste of a session of the law-making body of the US for that silly crap, then no lies.

Anyway, lovmuffin; I think Nixon deserved to be impeached (by the House), but not convicted by the Senate, which would have happened, which is why he resigned before impeachment. The Republican hierarchy never liked Nixon, which is why they let him hang. He just did not have a good personality and people did not like being around him, and he had his own way, which the hierarchy didn't like at all. But the rank-and-file Republican voters of the day wanted Nixon, not whoever else the Republicans had in mind. That always pissed them off.

I don't envy anybody who had to deal with Kissinger.







subrob1967 -> RE: How will the left react, if Obama loses? (11/6/2012 1:41:55 PM)

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ORIGINAL: lovmuffin
Liberal democrats and others have been doing their best to legislate and restrict guns and the second amendment since 1968 and even before. You know it. I know it, and the American people know it. Clinton tried his very best to do it. As luck would have it, in the end he failed.



I say we rewrite the Brady bill and every time they type "assault rifle" we use the word "abortion", every time they use the word "magazine" we use the word "contraception", and every time they mention "reasonable gun control regulations" we use the term "reasonable vagina control regulations".

What do you think?




mnottertail -> RE: How will the left react, if Obama loses? (11/6/2012 1:45:58 PM)

Yeah, tell you what, buncha scribbling down there in the inept house, and none of those dogshit bills were passed.  Neither would that asswipe pass.




thompsonx -> RE: How will the left react, if Obama loses? (11/6/2012 2:24:19 PM)


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ORIGINAL: subrob1967




I say we rewrite the Brady bill


Aren't the bradys lifetime republicrats?
Wasn't jim brady ray gun ronnie's mouth piece/press secretary?


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and every time they type "assault rifle" we use the word "abortion", every time they use the word "magazine" we use the word "contraception", and every time they mention "reasonable gun control regulations" we use the term "reasonable vagina control regulations".

What do you think?


I think your post lacks any semblance of rationality




thompsonx -> RE: How will the left react, if Obama loses? (11/6/2012 2:35:51 PM)


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ORIGINAL: lovmuffin




Liberal democrats and others have been doing their best to legislate and restrict guns and the second amendment



Jim and sarah brady are hardly liberal demopubs. Remember he was ronnie ray gun's mouthpiece/press secretary


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since 1968 and even before. You know it. I know it,


It is clear that you believe it but that is something other than to know something.

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and the American people know it.


This assumes facts not in evidence.






Yachtie -> RE: How will the left react, if Obama loses? (11/6/2012 2:43:15 PM)


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ORIGINAL: TheHeretic

Besides an on-air stroke from Chris Mathews, that would have me tuning in to MSNBC for extra lolz, what reaction can be expected from the libs/left, if the President is soundly and unquestionably fired by the American people next Tuesday?






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mnottertail -> RE: How will the left react, if Obama loses? (11/6/2012 2:56:07 PM)

Yup. Photoshopping is all you got.  No facts per usual, W has worst prez ever and will hold that title unopposed for decades, even surpassing St. Wrinklemeat as a fucking slime and destroyer of America. 




tazzygirl -> RE: How will the left react, if Obama loses? (11/6/2012 3:06:38 PM)

There is always the slim possibility of a Romney/Biden....




mnottertail -> RE: How will the left react, if Obama loses? (11/6/2012 3:10:53 PM)

Yeah, it would still be factlessly touted as a fatgirl thread.




lovmuffin -> RE: How will the left react, if Obama loses? (11/6/2012 3:17:20 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Edwynn

quote:

ORIGINAL: lovmuffin


quote:

ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

Again... why do you need..........



It's late and I don't want to get into it all right now but the second amendment and paramilitary arms protect us from crooked politicians.


Give me a moment ...

I'm still trying to recover, that was quite a laugh.

I've never owned a gun, but if all it took was the populace having enough AK-47s to prevent the invasions that nobody wanted, and the bank bailouts, then I'm a discount AK-47 dealer- yesterday.

Anyway, I appreciate your saying that Clinton's indiscretion was not worthy of impeachment. I'll say to Aswad; it was ridiculous for Clinton to be dragged in front of the Congress (the US freakin' Congress) to have to answer to such a personal and trivial matter in the first place. No waste of a session of the law-making body of the US for that silly crap, then no lies.

Anyway, lovmuffin; I think Nixon deserved to be impeached (by the House), but not convicted by the Senate, which would have happened, which is why he resigned before impeachment. The Republican hierarchy never liked Nixon, which is why they let him hang. He just did not have a good personality and people did not like being around him, and he had his own way, which the hierarchy didn't like at all. But the rank-and-file Republican voters of the day wanted Nixon, not whoever else the Republicans had in mind. That always pissed them off.

I don't envy anybody who had to deal with Kissinger.







In other words Edwynn the intent behind the 2nd amendment when it was written was for citizens to have the means to overthrow a tyrannical government. I simply was stating that in other words.




lovmuffin -> RE: How will the left react, if Obama loses? (11/6/2012 3:19:50 PM)


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ORIGINAL: subrob1967

quote:

ORIGINAL: lovmuffin
Liberal democrats and others have been doing their best to legislate and restrict guns and the second amendment since 1968 and even before. You know it. I know it, and the American people know it. Clinton tried his very best to do it. As luck would have it, in the end he failed.



I say we rewrite the Brady bill and every time they type "assault rifle" we use the word "abortion", every time they use the word "magazine" we use the word "contraception", and every time they mention "reasonable gun control regulations" we use the term "reasonable vagina control regulations".

What do you think?



Yea it's ok for the libs to legislate our gun rights away but there's hell to pay if ya want to legislate abortion rights. And aborton isn't even addressed in the constitution.




slvemike4u -> RE: How will the left react, if Obama loses? (11/6/2012 3:31:46 PM)

Yeah,cause that analogy really works [8|]

And muffin you might want to check out the basis for the Supreme's Roe v Wade decision,I think you will find that,like all the court's decisions(even the nonsensical ones,like Citizens United) the roots are in a reading of the Constitution.




mnottertail -> RE: How will the left react, if Obama loses? (11/6/2012 3:31:50 PM)

So far the restrictive legislation on gun rights that is law of this land is republican in nature, so nothing else in the hysterical rant would follow, fella.




Lucylastic -> RE: How will the left react, if Obama loses? (11/6/2012 3:39:12 PM)

Is it happy hour already?
I say we rewrite the Brady bill and every time they type "assault rifle" we use the word "Erection", every time they use the word "magazine" we use the word "Viagra", and every time they mention "reasonable gun control regulations" we use the term "reasonable PENECTOMY regulations".
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Edwynn -> RE: How will the left react, if Obama loses? (11/6/2012 3:41:12 PM)

All the laws this past year forcing women to listen to sonographs, laws allowing the charging of a woman carrying to be charged with murder if she cannot prove beyond doubt that her fall was an accident, this state forcing her to seek "counseling," against her wishes, another state prohibiting abortion counseling of any sort, some states prohibiting insurance coverage without a seperate premium, some requiring 'viability tests,' ...

Well, if we were to go tit for tat v. gun laws, as proposed earlier, we'd be down to pea shooters and slingshots by now.





slvemike4u -> RE: How will the left react, if Obama loses? (11/6/2012 3:43:28 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: lovmuffin


quote:

ORIGINAL: Edwynn

quote:

ORIGINAL: lovmuffin


quote:

ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

Again... why do you need..........



It's late and I don't want to get into it all right now but the second amendment and paramilitary arms protect us from crooked politicians.


Give me a moment ...

I'm still trying to recover, that was quite a laugh.

I've never owned a gun, but if all it took was the populace having enough AK-47s to prevent the invasions that nobody wanted, and the bank bailouts, then I'm a discount AK-47 dealer- yesterday.

Anyway, I appreciate your saying that Clinton's indiscretion was not worthy of impeachment. I'll say to Aswad; it was ridiculous for Clinton to be dragged in front of the Congress (the US freakin' Congress) to have to answer to such a personal and trivial matter in the first place. No waste of a session of the law-making body of the US for that silly crap, then no lies.

Anyway, lovmuffin; I think Nixon deserved to be impeached (by the House), but not convicted by the Senate, which would have happened, which is why he resigned before impeachment. The Republican hierarchy never liked Nixon, which is why they let him hang. He just did not have a good personality and people did not like being around him, and he had his own way, which the hierarchy didn't like at all. But the rank-and-file Republican voters of the day wanted Nixon, not whoever else the Republicans had in mind. That always pissed them off.

I don't envy anybody who had to deal with Kissinger.







In other words Edwynn the intent behind the 2nd amendment when it was written was for citizens to have the means to overthrow a tyrannical government. I simply was stating that in other words.

Are you still operating under the impression that this is possible ?




lovmuffin -> RE: How will the left react, if Obama loses? (11/6/2012 3:54:55 PM)

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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

whats your problem with the following....

The Brady Bill...

Assault weapons ban....

"Clinton also moved by Executive Order to ban the import of assault pistols like the Israeli-made Uzi and tightened up the licensing rules for gun dealers to make it harder for people to run gun shops out of hotel rooms or the trunks of their cars. Under his new rules, anyone applying for a permit to sell weapons will be fingerprinted and subject to a background check.

Read more: http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,162229,00.html#ixzz2BQ2bbVDR"....

Im just curious. We can always start a new thread.



I'm not apposed to an on the spot check to determine a person doesn't have a criminal record. The original intent of the Brady bill was to have 5 days of waiting supposedly giving authorities time to do a background check. The problem there is there is not enough personnel or money to do this, at least within police agencies. the states that have waiting periods do the same kind of checks as the states that don't. So a waiting period is only a wait.

I guess at this point in history the term assault pistol has a definition but technically there is no such thing. If you are referring to Uzi and pistol in the same sentence that would mean a Mini Uzi. A full auto mini Uzi spits out bullets at such a high rate of fire they're not ideal in most combat situations. Generally if you're referring to Uzis It's an Israeli made 9mm sub machine gun. The imported versions are semi automatics and where as they look similar they are not even the same gun. There is a lot of confusion with people not knowing the difference and politicians bald face lies adding to the confusion. So all the imported Action Arms Uzi is, is a 9mm carbine, not particularly awesome. The imported mini Uzi is an oversize 9mm handgun. Why would anyone want one of those when you can have a nifty compact one ?

The Clinton gun ban was easily and legally circumvented. In addition to that it was stupid and useless. You can still buy guns from the trunks of cars on the street or in a variety of places on the black market. Ban these types of weapons (semi automatics) and eventually they will be more abundant and cheaper except likely the supplies will come from used military stockpiles (fully automatic) (that is machine guns).


Best to leave guns bans alone and vigorously prosecute gun crimes, leave the perpetrators in jail and throw away the key. They can't shoot people from jail.

Gun bans on semi autos won't solve mass shooting either. The perps will simply get their guns on the black market or use a deadlier type of device such as a bomb.




Edwynn -> RE: How will the left react, if Obama loses? (11/6/2012 4:00:15 PM)

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... the intent behind the 2nd amendment when it was written was for citizens to have the means to overthrow a tyrannical government.


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Are you still operating under the impression that this is possible ?



We would have to surpass, far surpass, where we are accusing Iran of going before we could claim to have an adequate response to a tyrannical government. I'm not seeing that happening, myself.

Besides, tyranny is so passé, so out of vogue. No need for it anymore anyway. From the corporations that matter's standpoint, the situation would appear to be well in hand.

People are playing video games, tweeting, starting forest fires while emptying AK-47 magazines willy-nilly into the wild, etc. Everybody seems to be happy.






tazzygirl -> RE: How will the left react, if Obama loses? (11/6/2012 4:04:36 PM)

I dont believe anyone needs to own an automatic weapon. Bambi isnt that hard to bring down.

I dont believe anyone needs to own a semi-automatic weapon... same reason.

I dont believe anyone should ever be allowed to sell a gun from their trunk/home/garage/business without having to do a background check.

I believe the gun show loop holes should be closed.

I dont buy into the excuse that because someone will find a way around the system, the system doesnt need fixing.





searching4mysir -> RE: How will the left react, if Obama loses? (11/6/2012 4:10:04 PM)


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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

I dont believe anyone needs to own an automatic weapon. Bambi isnt that hard to bring down.

I dont believe anyone needs to own a semi-automatic weapon... same reason.

I dont believe anyone should ever be allowed to sell a gun from their trunk/home/garage/business without having to do a background check.

I believe the gun show loop holes should be closed.

I dont buy into the excuse that because someone will find a way around the system, the system doesnt need fixing.




The 2nd amendment isn't about hunting.




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