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RE: Why Obama scares conservatives. - 11/2/2012 9:23:57 AM

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What troubles many people is his administrative amnesty for illegal aliens in August of 2011 and April 2012, his ordering ICE to not deport illegal aliens, his increasing the discrimination against white workers via affirmative action in Federal hiring and so forth.

Such loony, ranting bullshit.
Obama has deported illegals at a higher rate than any other Administration.
He ordered ICE to stop deporting Dream Act illegals only.
No evidence of affirmative action against whites (there's that n e g r o paranoia at work)
And there is no "and so forth" except in your conspiracy addled little mind.

You handled that quite nicely...rendering my proposed,and angry,response irrelevant.
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RE: Why Obama scares conservatives. - 11/2/2012 9:49:24 AM

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The LIAR IN CHIEF (Obama) doesn't scare me one iota.

Obama's own telling of his life story has been nothing but one lie after the other, beginning with the claim that his parents met at the Civil Rights March in Selma AL and decided to have a child (him) based upon their experience there. The lie is that he was four years old at that time - assuming of course that his birth certificate is legit.

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RE: Why Obama scares conservatives. - 11/2/2012 10:04:41 AM

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I thought you were one of those types who's spent the last four years whining that his birth certificate can't possibly be kosher, though.
Really, if his birth certificate is valid, what's all this bitching about "the usurper" about, then?

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RE: Why Obama scares conservatives. - 11/2/2012 10:05:17 AM

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Wait until the revisions come in before you start peeing your pants with joy over the Chosen Ones jobs reports.
As I have pointed out before, they revise those numbers every month too, and they are almost always revised downward. The initial release of the jobs data is useless, except as political fodder.

Septembers jobs numbers were revised downward by almost 50% from 162,000 jobs to 88,000 jobs and will, in all probability, be revised downward again next month.

But hey! Lets go with HuffPo's numbers since most of the folks here only believe liberal claptrap. According to HuffPo, that revision is only down from 162K to 114k. Oh, and the jobless rate is down to 7.8%, which is the lowest it's been since January 09. September marks the first time it's been under 8% in 43 months.

That would be the ENTIRE Obama presidency to date, by the way... When Oblamer was sworn in the unemployment rate was 7.8%, and he supposedly was left with the worst wreckage of an economy in human history, blah, blah, blah... Now after 4 years of his super-genius leadership, we have managed to tank even worse because of his ignorant antics and the economy has "improved" to the point where it's more or less in the same situation it was in when he took office and claimed it was the worst economy since the Great Depression...

So, in 4 years he managed to inherit the worst economy ever and "improve" it to the point where its as good as the worst economy ever... Damn! Liberals are stupid!

But let's look at HuffPos numbers some more because there appears to be a big problem with this jobs story. According to HuffPo, Obummers regime has added a grand total of 325,000 new jobs since January 09. That's just a little over 81,000 a year, so obviously there is something wrong with the notion that he's been creating over 100,000 jobs a month for the last 4 years.

If you really want to look into the significance of that little bit of reporting, you should know that 81,000 jobs a year does not even come close to the estimated 120,000 per month needed to match the number of people entering the workforce. In fact, there are about 4 MILLION people a year born in this country, so HuffPos figure of 325,000 total jobs created in 4 years is a pretty dismal figure by any standard.

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RE: Why Obama scares conservatives. - 11/2/2012 10:06:15 AM

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He is equvocating? undulating? vacillating? hard to tell with the vermiforms.

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RE: Why Obama scares conservatives. - 11/2/2012 10:09:05 AM

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It could be Heisenberg's uncertainty principle in action: when it's to Obama's discredit that his birth certificate is real, then it's obviously real, but the rest of the time it's obviously false.
(Maybe RJ thinks it can be both at once because he's misunderstood Schrodinger's Cat as a real thing rather than a demonstration of the absurdities in quantum theory...)

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RE: Why Obama scares conservatives. - 11/2/2012 4:27:08 PM

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Simple Answer: Obama is an avowed socialist. That is being kind. The people closest to him now and when he was young, wherever the hell that was, were communists, radicals, terrorists. These are the people who confiscate the wealth of others and redistribute to their lackeys. Yeah, he and his ilk scare the sh#% out of me. That's why we need to DEFEAT (not compromise) them.

THANK YOU!

My point was that he's a pragmatist and the ideologues don't understand/trust that. Your response shows that you missed my entire point and simply continued to see him as a socialistic ideologue. Your fixation makes you see everything as ideology, not what works.

Also, I need to add a disclaimer: I used the term "conservative" for a growing group of the conservative faction. There are some, for example TheHeretic, that are conservative but haven't bought into the standard anti-Obama talking points.

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RE: Why Obama scares conservatives. - 11/2/2012 4:40:13 PM

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Simple Answer: Obama is an avowed socialist. That is being kind. The people closest to him now and when he was young, wherever the hell that was, were communists, radicals, terrorists. These are the people who confiscate the wealth of others and redistribute to their lackeys. Yeah, he and his ilk scare the sh#% out of me. That's why we need to DEFEAT (not compromise) them.

I wish I could look at your picture - and read your comments - without thinking of General Midwinter, the deranged megalomaniac who put together an army to attack the Soviet Union in order to wipe out communism in Billion Dollar Brain.

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RE: Why Obama scares conservatives. - 11/3/2012 3:56:38 AM

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Simple Answer: Obama is an avowed socialist. That is being kind. The people closest to him now and when he was young, wherever the hell that was, were communists, radicals, terrorists. These are the people who confiscate the wealth of others and redistribute to their lackeys.

Excuse me, sir, but I think you are confusing perceived ideology with real-world redistribution of wealth, which apparently has escaped your notice; that of the moderate or subsistence-level wealth of the middle class being re-distributed to the financial sector, $160 billion to AIG alone, to give their top executives and salesmen over $10 billion in bonuses for driving the company into the dirt, and for paying off the bets of Goldman Sachs.

I hear you, sir. I'm all against this re-distribution of wealth, including the massive government checks to Exxon, Haliburton, Goldman Sachs, AIG, Bank of America, CitiGroup, JP MorganChase, Monsanto, Koch Bros., etc.

Yes, this is exactly what the Tea Partiers are all about.

oh wait, ...

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RE: Why Obama scares conservatives. - 11/3/2012 6:49:17 AM

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There's bound to be a national socialistic response to blatant socialism.

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RE: Why Obama scares conservatives. - 11/3/2012 6:51:51 AM

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Ideologues can be pragmatic when they need to be. Just as pragmatists can be ideological. You're saying a lot without really saying anything.

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RE: Why Obama scares conservatives. - 11/3/2012 6:53:11 AM

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There's bound to be a national socialistic response to blatant socialism.

Yes, and we see that in the house with the republican corporate capitulists, who are no more than corporate socialists and welfare providers.

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RE: Why Obama scares conservatives. - 11/3/2012 7:00:20 AM

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You're just repeating mantras and talking points that have already been said many times over. If you can think outside the box of those, please share.

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RE: Why Obama scares conservatives. - 11/3/2012 7:03:19 AM

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Possibly, but that's still a bit rich as a criticism coming from somebody who's parroting that whole "O noes! Teh Kenyan iz Socialist!" line.

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RE: Why Obama scares conservatives. - 11/3/2012 7:05:50 AM

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You're just repeating mantras and talking points that have already been said many times over. If you can think outside the box of those, please share.

Thinking outside the box is cute and all that shit, mantra repeater, but what is true is we are living with what is on the cart.

Do you have anything resembling thought? This would be an excellent opportunity for you to demonstrate your wares.

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RE: Why Obama scares conservatives. - 11/3/2012 7:08:33 AM

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Clinton was a genuine pragmatist. He came into office with an initial two years of leeway to push a liberal agenda that included universal healthcare with Hillary heading that up. Then he got swept up with a conservative Republican House and its Contract with America business. Instead of sticking with his agenda, Clinton shifted gears to work with Congress and ended up accomplishing several things through compromise. Instead of working with a new Congress, Obama has dug in his heals and turned to more pronounced demagoguery that pits one social strata against another, gender against gender, and race/ethnicity against race/ethnicity. Obama is far from being a pragmatist by almost any standard though he might have instances of showing pragmatism periodically.

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RE: Why Obama scares conservatives. - 11/3/2012 7:09:12 AM

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Simple Answer: Obama is an avowed socialist. That is being kind. The people closest to him now and when he was young, wherever the hell that was, were communists, radicals, terrorists. These are the people who confiscate the wealth of others and redistribute to their lackeys. Yeah, he and his ilk scare the sh#% out of me. That's why we need to DEFEAT (not compromise) them.

Got a citation for any of that?
I mean, an American politician running on a socialist ticket, you'd expect there to be a bit of evidence for that one. You'd also expect people who voted for an alleged socialist to be a bit peeved about him carrying on like the Chimp's third term as well.

Are you fucking kidding me?!?!? Why would you even ask him? Why do you even respond to his rantings?

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RE: Why Obama scares conservatives. - 11/3/2012 7:09:33 AM

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Do you have Star Wars bedsheets and comforter?

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RE: Why Obama scares conservatives. - 11/3/2012 7:10:17 AM

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No, is your bed in the Minneapolis Aiport Bathroom stall?

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RE: Why Obama scares conservatives. - 11/3/2012 7:12:33 AM

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Your jokes and other banter indicate that you're either 10 years old or just a complete douche.

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