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RE: Why Obama scares conservatives. - 11/3/2012 6:40:41 PM

Aswad

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ORIGINAL: Edwynn

Yes, the poor are poor only because they are just lazy. Repeat that mantra, and sleep well.

There does seem to be a certan Darwinian element to it, doesn't there?

I mean, a lot of the right wingers seem to be the designated losers of the future, voting for their own obsolescence, which is downright delightful in some ways, most of them ironic. Anyway, the overall idea seems to be to trim down the population. Let people they don't want just die off, and let the middle class pay in the form of crime so as to not to have to watch the poor carted off to the concentration camps prior to resorting to real work (crime). It has a delightfully 30's touch, very (national) social(ist) Darwinism.

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RE: Why Obama scares conservatives. - 11/3/2012 6:43:05 PM

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http://iranaware.com/2012/11/03/b4-u-vote-4-obama/

I like knowing where these types of lists come from.

Are you suggesting the list is more right wing bullshit..........

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RE: Why Obama scares conservatives. - 11/3/2012 6:43:28 PM

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ORIGINAL: Aylee

Godwin's Law:
"the thread is finished and whoever mentioned the Nazis has automatically lost whatever debate was in progress. "

Uhm... Godwin's Law merely states that the probability of a reductio ad hitleram increases asymptotically toward 1 with increasing length of a thread?

You seem to have the kindergarden version of it, although the reference to Goebbels was uncalled for.

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RE: Why Obama scares conservatives. - 11/3/2012 6:47:20 PM

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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

http://iranaware.com/2012/11/03/b4-u-vote-4-obama/

I like knowing where these types of lists come from.

RFLMAO....it is amazing the lengths hate will drive some folks to go.
Imagine going to Iranaware.com for your talking points.....and she a good conservative too

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RE: Why Obama scares conservatives. - 11/3/2012 6:49:08 PM

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Criticized the Supreme Court during a State of the Union address

Free speech doesn't extend to the SOTU? And what makes the court sacrosanct?

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The 2009 National Christmas Tree in the White House ornaments depicting Chairman Mao, a drag queen, and a picture of Mount Rushmore that included Obama’s own head next to George Washington’s

Oh my. Three-year-old Christmas ornaments? I'm sorry to be blunt, but that's just plain pathetic.

Most of that list was...including it's provenance.

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RE: Why Obama scares conservatives. - 11/3/2012 6:53:00 PM

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ORIGINAL: Aylee

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ORIGINAL: Edwynn

Thank you for leaving out the lies that you felt to be unimportant, leaving only those that you felt to be important

Goebbels would be proud.

Are you suggesting that we do not have a debt or unemployment problem? That we did not have four Americans killed in Benghazi, including our ambassador, while help was denied? That guns were not sold to Mexican drug lords? That money was not given to a slew of companies that went bankrupt? That Boeing was not sued over trying to open a plant in a right to work state? That the Fort Hood Massacre was not downgraded to "work-place violence"?

Perhaps the lie is the fact that you are laying off all of those half truths and exaggerations off on the President.
That's just my guess.

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RE: Why Obama scares conservatives. - 11/3/2012 6:56:49 PM

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ORIGINAL: Aylee

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ORIGINAL: lovmuffin

The list left out Sonia Sotomayer

Good one Aylee

Whoopsie.

I added Benghazi. Forgot to add her.

Of course I am curious about the "lies" I am propagating. Perhaps I will be enlightened.

He left his ambassador to die in Benghazi, and you want to vote for him? Umm. . . Why?

Bullshit.....but by all means go on,prove that your President "left his ambassador to die"
Prove it Aylee,make the damm case right here

Fucking amazing how elections bring all the bullshit to the surface...it is certainly true,there are lies and than their are damnable lie.
This one is damnable

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If we want things to stay as they are,things will have to change...Tancredi from "the Leopard"

Forget Guns-----Ban the pools

Funny stuff....https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eNwFf991d-4

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RE: Why Obama scares conservatives. - 11/3/2012 7:04:38 PM

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ORIGINAL: slvemike4u

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ORIGINAL: Aylee
Whoopsie.

I added Benghazi. Forgot to add her.

Of course I am curious about the "lies" I am propagating. Perhaps I will be enlightened.

He left his ambassador to die in Benghazi, and you want to vote for him? Umm. . . Why?

Bullshit.....but by all means go on,prove that your President "left his ambassador to die"
Prove it Aylee,make the damm case right here

Fucking amazing how elections bring all the bullshit to the surface...it is certainly true,there are lies and than their are damnable lie.
This one is damnable

No doubt if Obama had sent troops into Benghazi and they had been killed, then that would have made the list as well Mike.

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RE: Why Obama scares conservatives. - 11/3/2012 7:25:54 PM

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It's as if all it would have taken to pluck those men from their dire situation would have been wanting to.
And you are right polite,a failed rescue attempt would be what these fools would be trying to hang around his neck.

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Forget Guns-----Ban the pools

Funny stuff....https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eNwFf991d-4

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RE: Why Obama scares conservatives. - 11/4/2012 4:22:15 AM

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You seem to have a fear of death. Get over it. There's life to be lived. Haha.

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RE: Why Obama scares conservatives. - 11/4/2012 4:24:14 AM

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What's up with you and the Molly Maids?

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RE: Why Obama scares conservatives. - 11/4/2012 5:19:05 AM

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ORIGINAL: dcnovice

Criticized the Supreme Court during a State of the Union address

Free speech doesn't extend to the SOTU? And what makes the court sacrosanct?

Separation of powers. That speech violated it.

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The 2009 National Christmas Tree in the White House ornaments depicting Chairman Mao, a drag queen, and a picture of Mount Rushmore that included Obama’s own head next to George Washington’s

Oh my. Three-year-old Christmas ornaments? I'm sorry to be blunt, but that's just plain pathetic.

Killer of over 40 million people? A drag queen? And narcissism. Umm. . . I believe that there is NO god, and I find this wrong. Why do these folks belong on a Christmas tree?

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RE: Why Obama scares conservatives. - 11/4/2012 5:40:49 AM

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ORIGINAL: slvemike4u

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ORIGINAL: Aylee

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ORIGINAL: lovmuffin

The list left out Sonia Sotomayer

Good one Aylee

Whoopsie.

I added Benghazi. Forgot to add her.

Of course I am curious about the "lies" I am propagating. Perhaps I will be enlightened.

He left his ambassador to die in Benghazi, and you want to vote for him? Umm. . . Why?

Bullshit.....but by all means go on,prove that your President "left his ambassador to die"
Prove it Aylee,make the damm case right here

Fucking amazing how elections bring all the bullshit to the surface...it is certainly true,there are lies and than their are damnable lie.
This one is damnable

They watched it real time and refused help. What else do you call it. What else do you want to know. He left them to die. I am not real happy about that.

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RE: Why Obama scares conservatives. - 11/4/2012 6:01:36 AM

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They cannot handle reality.

I don't want anyone to think my agreement means that I think all republicans are clueless, I don't think it's a blanket thing.

But the reality challenged are a well represented special interest group in that party.

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RE: Why Obama scares conservatives. - 11/4/2012 6:05:30 AM

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there have been five ambassadors killed in the line of duty in our country.

It is frustrating. But I don't see how it is unavoidable.

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RE: Why Obama scares conservatives. - 11/4/2012 6:26:24 AM

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ORIGINAL: Aylee

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ORIGINAL: slvemike4u

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ORIGINAL: Aylee

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ORIGINAL: lovmuffin

The list left out Sonia Sotomayer

Good one Aylee

Whoopsie.

I added Benghazi. Forgot to add her.

Of course I am curious about the "lies" I am propagating. Perhaps I will be enlightened.

He left his ambassador to die in Benghazi, and you want to vote for him? Umm. . . Why?

Bullshit.....but by all means go on,prove that your President "left his ambassador to die"
Prove it Aylee,make the damm case right here

Fucking amazing how elections bring all the bullshit to the surface...it is certainly true,there are lies and than their are damnable lie.
This one is damnable

They watched it real time and refused help. What else do you call it. What else do you want to know. He left them to die. I am not real happy about that.

Amazing how the same people who hold Obama personally responsible for what happened to an embassy in another country, will furiously reject the idea that 9/11 might possibly be considered to have reflected some slight failure of stewardship by the guy who just happened to be Commander-In-Chief at the time.

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RE: Why Obama scares conservatives. - 11/4/2012 6:27:04 AM

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ORIGINAL: Aylee

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ORIGINAL: slvemike4u

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ORIGINAL: Aylee

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ORIGINAL: lovmuffin

The list left out Sonia Sotomayer

Good one Aylee

Whoopsie.

I added Benghazi. Forgot to add her.

Of course I am curious about the "lies" I am propagating. Perhaps I will be enlightened.

He left his ambassador to die in Benghazi, and you want to vote for him? Umm. . . Why?

Bullshit.....but by all means go on,prove that your President "left his ambassador to die"
Prove it Aylee,make the damm case right here

Fucking amazing how elections bring all the bullshit to the surface...it is certainly true,there are lies and than their are damnable lie.
This one is damnable

They watched it real time and refused help. What else do you call it. What else do you want to know. He left them to die. I am not real happy about that.

That isn't even logical.
You are making a jump that just isn't there.
Knowing what is going on half what around the world,in real time even,does not mean the options are there to do anything about it ,even in real time.
Sheesh it's like talking to my 14 year old nephew,a little hint Aylee...wanting something to be so does not make it so !
And nobody is real happy about it...your side does not own compassion(not even sure you folks have it,the evidence would suggest not),grief nor anger.

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RE: Why Obama scares conservatives. - 11/4/2012 6:30:36 AM

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Thanks leonine,you brought up 9/11...which leads me to this Aylee....Did we not(most of us anyway),all watch that in real time...I know I did,and yet none of us did anything to stop it.
By your,certainly flawed,logic we all bear responsibility for the towers coming down....How will you live with your guilt ?

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Forget Guns-----Ban the pools

Funny stuff....https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eNwFf991d-4

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RE: Why Obama scares conservatives. - 11/4/2012 6:37:42 AM

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But the thread is why obama scares conservatives.

The answer is that they may no longer hold their futile jingos as truisms, and they are confronted with facts, and the facts are not favoring their fantasy.

That is why they are scared, it is a real world out there.

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RE: Why Obama scares conservatives. - 11/4/2012 6:48:32 AM

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For foreigners, it's necessary to remind ourselves that the US political scale is like nothing else in the developed world. What you call the extreme left would be considered slightly right of centre in Europe or Japan, and what the rest of the world call socialists would be so far off the US scale that your commentators couldn't even see them.

This is partly historical, but more recently a product of a long game by neo-conservative institutions to establish their ideology as the only orthodoxy. In the rest of the world, these economic and political ideas were so intensely promoted that a lot of governments were led to experiment with them, until it became clear that they weren't working, since when we've been cleaning up the mess. In the US, they are so embedded in the system that even the worst failure since the '30s has made little impression.

But just as the Soviet system was finally undermined by better communications showing the masses that there was a viable alternative, the US orthodoxy is also falling victim to exposure to foreign ideas like a healthcare system that doesn't add bankrupcy to illness, or labour unions that aren't considered either gangsters or subversives. Nobody who has picked up these ideas can vote for them, because the political system is still excluding them as effectively as ever, but they will vote for the nearest thing the system allows; and even that was not supposed to happen.

And just like any other ruling group, the white Xian neocon one reacts to the slightest loss of power and privilege by crying victim and howling that it'll be concentration camps tomorrow.

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