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YN -> RE: Post election thoughts. (11/7/2012 7:58:21 AM)
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ORIGINAL: DarkSteven
Interesting idea that the GOP could get the Latino vote.
But keep in mind that the entire concept is based on the Hispanics being a homogeneous bloc. Not true - the Cuban-Americans are solidly GOP, while the rest are solidly Dem.
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Two other thoughts:
1. Obama won, but Nate Silver won bigger. His Presidential predictions were spot on, and improved from 2008.
2. We're gonna have to DO something about Florida. They seem incapable of holding a proper election without a recount. Thank God that Florida wasn't the deciding state.
The Cuban exiles along with the other similar ones from Venezuala, El Salvador, etc.) are a special case (besides that the Cubans are Caribbean and not Latin American) all beng wealthy conservatives or reactionaries, and they will vote accordingly.
As for the Latinos you have according to the polls their main concerns in the United States are in order, the economy, including jobs and business rules, immigration if it applies to them, and crime. The province of the right in most nations is " Law and Order" and business.
As noted the percentage of "Latinos" voting for the GOPnow is ~22-34% depending on the state in question.
To say they might vote as a bloc is not correct, instead see it as a cultural frame of reference on the issues, much as firearms, drug or same sex marriages mightr be seen in different prospective in a "red" versus a "blue" state of yours.
And another complaint is that "Latinos" who can vote often do not bother, for the choice is often between Anglo A and Anglo B in many areas, or so it is claimed.
But it is not just myself saying this, there is a growing cadre of "Latino" politicians, and not all are leftists. And the GOP is attempting inroads, such is reported on the forums, and that it be taken seriously is a concern among the leftists who are often the organizers and activists
We have a president, a woman of the educated elite, a democratic socialist, who is as socially conservative as Sarah Palin regarding matters like abortion. What do you think the working class are like?
And for every one of the educated "Latinos" of the type you might speak with, you have in the United States a hundred working class or rurales mowing lawns, cleaning houses, and working in meat plants. The corporate glass ceiling for women, abortion or gun laws, or gay marriage are either meaningless to them, or met with antipathy.
And neither party can claim they did anything for the "Latinos."
Look at who the rank and file really are in the GOP and consider the similarities. Their United States children will be different, but that will take time.
The brighter GOP strategists are seeing this, the Democrats should take a hard look also.
I would do things like expand the DREAM Act, after all the United States paid the expense for the schools and trained the children to be United States citizens, you don't want to send them home alienated, the rise of groups like MS-13 are examples where this goes.
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