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RE: At Least "America is a Racist Country" is... - 11/7/2012 10:38:08 AM   
Mezrem


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Status: offline 		I am not sure but I believe my initial comment was to another person pointing out the racial make up of the President. If you believe he is a socialist and have proof then fight on! Yes you will be attacked in some sectors for such a stance. This is an alternative life style community and so leans left.. hard left in some things.

I would not jump to proscribe racism to you because of your comments. I don't know you well enough to make what in my mind is a serious charge. That said there are elements inside this country that do judge people on skin color. They are not isolated to any one area or income level or even ethnic background. We humans find ALL kinds of reasons to hate one another. To turn a blind eye to real racism is criminal.

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RE: At Least "America is a Racist Country" is... - 11/7/2012 10:40:11 AM   
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ORIGINAL: DaddySatyr

Unfortunately, logical arguments get you labeled a racist when you have anything negative to say about the current failure-in-chief. Four years ago, I said on these boards that he was a likable, charasmatic guy but that I didn't think socialism was a good direction for our country. You guessed it. That made me a racist because I dared to say something in opposition to a man that happened to have slightly darker skin than I.

So, what it comes down to is that if you don't agree with the annointed, you're a racist (or worse). I don't care what color he is. He's a scumbag socialist that is dragging this country down to ruin.

Michael


Racists never think they're racist. I had a right wing friend write me and say "Why would you vote for someone you wouldn't want to live next door to?" and "What would be so wrong about having having a nice blond woman be the First Lady?".

I pointed out that I live next door to a black woman, and that his comments were pure racism, which he immediately denied. Denial is a very big part of it. "I don't hate him because he's black, I hate him because (insert Fox News talking point here)." Right.

And the denial goes much, much deeper. This same friend has a son who is gay. So I ask him why he would vote for a candidate or party that despises his child, believes being gay is a choice that can be cured, wants to marginalize and demean his son, and has in its basic platform to ban gay marriage constitutionally. His response is that the Republican party has no problem with gays, and wherever did I get that idea?

Like most haters, a mind so closed, no light will ever get in.

I suggest that if there was a white man in the office, with identical policies, you would not call him a socialist. This aside from the idea that you seem to have no clue what a socialist is, are simply repeating something you heard someone else say.

I've lived under a socialist/communist government. This ain't it.

And lastly, I'm sure it's been pointed out before, but your avatar has "Mormon" misspelled.

Home schooled?


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RE: At Least "America is a Racist Country" is... - 11/7/2012 10:41:16 AM   
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This is usually what racists say.....not that I`m calling you one..... 


I am almost positive you just did!

as to...

slvemike4u's post

I know exactly what I said.... but too bad... you and your ilk no longer get to guilt the United States of America for Slavery, Reconstruction or Jim Crow. That happened but it's over and we have evolved as a nation.

I know it will not stop you, I know the mantra of "rich white guys" control America fits the agenda of the Democrat Party and the American Left but it's done.

The electorate of America has spoken now and forever... the candidate matters not the color of the candidate's skin



There`s also this tendency among racists...... to consider someone of who is half white/black, as all black....


The President is half white.....FYI

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RE: At Least "America is a Racist Country" is... - 11/7/2012 11:05:47 AM   
DaddySatyr


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Racists never think they're racist. I had a right wing friend write me and say "Why would you vote for someone you wouldn't want to live next door to?" and "What would be so wrong about having having a nice blond woman be the First Lady?".

I pointed out that I live next door to a black woman, and that his comments were pure racism, which he immediately denied. Denial is a very big part of it. "I don't hate him because he's black, I hate him because (insert Fox News talking point here)." Right.


Nice attempt at calling me a racist in a very passive-aggressive, typically lefty sheeple kind of way.

The fact is; if I don't think someone is a good neighbor, I wouldn't vote for them, no. I live next door to a guy that I wouldn't vote for on a dare. He steals things from me, leaves trash on my side of the yard, and lets his kids run rampant at all hours of the night (affecting my sleep). Now, I couldn't tell that about him by looking at him but on his third day here, when he commandeered my recycling bin and painted his house number on it, I knew there were going to be problems.

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ORIGINAL: misanthropicdom

I suggest that if there was a white man in the office, with identical policies, you would not call him a socialist. This aside from the idea that you seem to have no clue what a socialist is, are simply repeating something you heard someone else say.


and ... here we have the assumption that I MUST be racist because if it were a white socialist, I'd be all for it. Sorry. You could not be more wrong about me. You could try but you would fail.


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ORIGINAL: misanthropicdom

I've lived under a socialist/communist government. This ain't it.


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Socialists mainly share the belief that capitalism unfairly concentrates power and wealth among a small segment of society that controls capital and creates an unequal society. All socialists advocate the creation of an egalitarian society, in which wealth and power are distributed more evenly, although there is considerable disagreement among socialists over how, and to what extent this could be achieved.[1]


Obama believes this.

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Socialism is not a discrete philosophy of fixed doctrine and program; its branches advocate a degree of social interventionism and economic rationalization, sometimes opposing each other.


And fits this bill.

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Some socialists advocate complete nationalization of the means of production, distribution, and exchange; while others advocate state control of capital within the framework of a market economy.


Obama is the latter.

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Social democrats propose selective nationalization of key national industries in mixed economies combined with tax-funded welfare programs; Libertarian socialism (which includes Socialist Anarchism and Libertarian Marxism) rejects state control and ownership of the economy altogether and advocates direct collective ownership of the means of production via co-operative workers' councils and workplace democracy


He's the former.

So on listed definitions, Obama is four out of four. Should you wish to move past socialism and into Marxist Communism, I personally think he fulfills 7 of 10 planks if you grade liberally.



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And lastly, I'm sure it's been pointed out before, but your avatar has "Mormon" misspelled.

Home schooled?



No, that was in response to a poster here making a very thinly veiled statement (followed by a "just sayin") about Paul Ryan's masculinity and thereby suggesting that being a homosexual somehow negates someone's ability to be vice president. I guess discrimination doesn't only come from the right, after all.



Peace and comfort,



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RE: At Least "America is a Racist Country" is... - 11/7/2012 11:07:42 AM   
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Status: offline 		Yes, because electing a man who is obviously unfit for office TWICE, once after he proved himself unfit by the job he did after the first time he was elected, solely due to the fact that he is black is definitely NOT racist. Right? WRONG!

And, when I say that, do not assume I am for Romney. I was not for either, and I never would be. They are both horrid choices. Just saying, choosing someone FOR their skin color instead of not choosing them BECAUSE of it, is just as racist and low. And, the man has NOTHING else to recommend him.

Or, if he does, what is it? His spending habits? The lack of controversy? Something he actually did that made the economy better, created jobs, or made people feel less worried that we're all only a month or two away, at most, from being rounded up and put in camps? Mmm .. no .. he just walked around, being an ineffectual or possibly downright diabolically evil President, wile sporting dark flesh.


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RE: At Least "America is a Racist Country" is... - 11/7/2012 11:13:46 AM   
Owner59


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ORIGINAL: misanthropicdom


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ORIGINAL: DaddySatyr

Unfortunately, logical arguments get you labeled a racist when you have anything negative to say about the current failure-in-chief. Four years ago, I said on these boards that he was a likable, charasmatic guy but that I didn't think socialism was a good direction for our country. You guessed it. That made me a racist because I dared to say something in opposition to a man that happened to have slightly darker skin than I.

So, what it comes down to is that if you don't agree with the annointed, you're a racist (or worse). I don't care what color he is. He's a scumbag socialist that is dragging this country down to ruin.

Michael


Racists never think they're racist. I had a right wing friend write me and say "Why would you vote for someone you wouldn't want to live next door to?" and "What would be so wrong about having having a nice blond woman be the First Lady?".

I pointed out that I live next door to a black woman, and that his comments were pure racism, which he immediately denied. Denial is a very big part of it. "I don't hate him because he's black, I hate him because (insert Fox News talking point here)." Right.

And the denial goes much, much deeper. This same friend has a son who is gay. So I ask him why he would vote for a candidate or party that despises his child, believes being gay is a choice that can be cured, wants to marginalize and demean his son, and has in its basic platform to ban gay marriage constitutionally. His response is that the Republican party has no problem with gays, and wherever did I get that idea?

Like most haters, a mind so closed, no light will ever get in.

I suggest that if there was a white man in the office, with identical policies, you would not call him a socialist. This aside from the idea that you seem to have no clue what a socialist is, are simply repeating something you heard someone else say.

I've lived under a socialist/communist government. This ain't it.

And lastly, I'm sure it's been pointed out before, but your avatar has "Mormon" misspelled.

Home schooled?





Well put and spot on.......

You read that guy clearly.

Hope you stick around.....welcome.

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RE: At Least "America is a Racist Country" is... - 11/7/2012 11:15:49 AM   
OpenMindOpenHand


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"ORIGINAL: misanthropicdom
Racists never think they're racist. I had a right wing friend write me and say "Why would you vote for someone you wouldn't want to live next door to?" "
I think that's a very good question and, while it could have to do with them being racist, it could also just be a valid point.
I wouldn't want to live next to Obama, Romney, Nixon, either Bush, etc. Might want to live next to Carter, because I respect the fact that he was out working on houses for Habitat for Humanity after being President.
Not everything is about skin tone. Sometimes, you just look at the way a man acts and feel free to think him disreputable, because of it, even if you know other people are going to assume bad things about you as a result.
The fact that the government controls the media, as it has done pretty much full time since the 1980's, and has gotten an even tighter hold on since 2001, and yet Obama, while having many transgressions and outright criminal activities covered up or excused by the press, still comes off as a disreputable fellow says a lot about his character. It can read, between the lines, that he does not have the best interests of this country at heart.
Oh, but, that's only because he's black. It's not because of the cover ups about his student ID or his birth certificate. It's not because of his disrespect for the national anthem or his having said the oath wrong, or his terrorist brother, or the vast quantities of money he spent or his use of Air Force 1 for his political campaign. No .. it's only because of his skin color. Right!

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RE: At Least "America is a Racist Country" is... - 11/7/2012 11:19:38 AM   
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Really?
You won't have any problem citing a psychology report or something penned by a sociologist to support that thesis, then, will you?

the election.....the economy is worse than 2008. and they voted for him anyways.......

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RE: At Least "America is a Racist Country" is... - 11/7/2012 11:22:18 AM   
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The United States of America just REELECTED a black President...



Actually, the United States of America just RE-ELECTED a mulato dictator/tyrant...


Who says racism and bigotry are not alive and well in the u.s.?

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RE: At Least "America is a Racist Country" is... - 11/7/2012 11:22:57 AM   
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Status: offline 		That is correct. Obama has radical socialist leanings and has only been hemmed in due to a GOP controlled house. The people voted for more gridlock and containment of the nanny state. We'll see what 2014 brings.

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RE: At Least "America is a Racist Country" is... - 11/7/2012 11:23:45 AM   
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ORIGINAL: chainedandgagged


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Really?
You won't have any problem citing a psychology report or something penned by a sociologist to support that thesis, then, will you?

the election.....the economy is worse than 2008. and they voted for him anyways.......



The US was losing 750,000 jobs every month and not adding any, in '08'.....

Are you sure you`re an American?

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RE: At Least "America is a Racist Country" is... - 11/7/2012 11:23:53 AM   
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That is correct. Obama has radical socialist leanings and has only been hemmed in due to a GOP controlled house. The people voted for more gridlock and containment of the nanny state. We'll see what 2014 brings.


The GOP house has radical nazi leanings and has been hemmed in due to Obama.



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RE: At Least "America is a Racist Country" is... - 11/7/2012 11:25:35 AM   
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Do you care to elaborate on the claim that the President has a terrorist brother ? Or tell us about Obamas criminal activities ? Or where he covered up anything about his birth certificate ?

Do you have any actual evidence that is both credible and not just more racist bullshit ?

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RE: At Least "America is a Racist Country" is... - 11/7/2012 11:28:15 AM   
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the election.....the economy is worse than 2008. and they voted for him anyways.......



The value of stocks and shares doubled in the four years of Obamas first term..... It`s the economy stupid.

It didnt take long for the socks to come out of the closet, did it.

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RE: At Least "America is a Racist Country" is... - 11/7/2012 11:28:29 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Owner59

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ORIGINAL: chainedandgagged


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ORIGINAL: Moonhead

Really?
You won't have any problem citing a psychology report or something penned by a sociologist to support that thesis, then, will you?

the election.....the economy is worse than 2008. and they voted for him anyways.......



The US was losing 750,000 jobs every month and not adding any, in '08'.....

Are you sure you`re an American?

What were obamas promises? and make no mistake I am not defending bush, I despise the man...
what promise did run his re relection campaign on. You and obama can blame bush all and win elections, but doesnt change the facts.

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RE: At Least "America is a Racist Country" is... - 11/7/2012 11:29:14 AM   
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Unfortunately, logical arguments get you labeled a racist when you have anything negative to say about the current failure-in-chief. Four years ago, I said on these boards that he was a likable, charasmatic guy but that I didn't think socialism was a good direction for our country.

Would you like to privatize the fire department? The police department? The military? The utility grid?






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RE: At Least "America is a Racist Country" is... - 11/7/2012 11:29:42 AM   
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You can keep pointing this out,over and over again....and it still won't sink in.
Some idiot will come along and suggest that the large % of blacks voting for Obama proves a racism or some such rot.
It's all so much white noise,it's an idiots stock in trade


Well, it hasn't escaped my notice that those who are most virulent in trying to prove the racism of yesterday's election have not responded to my post. It's hard to argue with the facts, isn't it. But as you've correctly pointed out, some will try to do exactly that! Be well.

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RE: At Least "America is a Racist Country" is... - 11/7/2012 11:31:48 AM   
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The fact that the government controls the media, as it has done pretty much full time since the 1980's

Do you really believe that fox news is controled by the govt?

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RE: At Least "America is a Racist Country" is... - 11/7/2012 11:33:00 AM   
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Unfortunately, logical arguments get you labeled a racist when you have anything negative to say about the current failure-in-chief. Four years ago, I said on these boards that he was a likable, charasmatic guy but that I didn't think socialism was a good direction for our country. You guessed it. That made me a racist because I dared to say something in opposition to a man that happened to have slightly darker skin than I.

So, what it comes down to is that if you don't agree with the annointed, you're a racist (or worse). I don't care what color he is. He's a scumbag socialist that is dragging this country down to ruin.

Peace and comfort,

Michael


Could you do us all on this thread a favor and list a few countries that you consider socialist, and also list some politicians historically or presently, American, or otherwise (other than Obama) who you consider socialist? I would like to understand your understanding of the term "socialist" before responding to the above. Because it most certainly deserves response.


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RE: At Least "America is a Racist Country" is... - 11/7/2012 11:33:27 AM   
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The fact that the government controls the media, as it has done pretty much full time since the 1980's

Do you really believe that fox news is controled by the govt?

fox is not the issue...but even fox knows that obama has no interest in the constitution or civil rights.

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