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fucktoyprincess -> RE: The White Female Vote in America (11/12/2012 7:06:36 AM)
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ORIGINAL: TreasureKY
I also believe that if you accept a particular pay rate to do a job, then you do that job for the agreed upon pay without complaint. You're the one who accepted the offer. No one held a gun against your head and said you had to accept the pay. It makes no difference what the person next to you is making. That is their business and it doesn't affect you. You made a deal. Live with it.
The party I support does not believe in inequitable pay. Frankly, I'm not aware of any party that does not believe women are entitled to the same pay as men.
Honestly, there are unworthy people of both genders. Worth has nothing to do with it.
I own my own business so I'm not impacted by "fair pay", but I don't find the issue irrelevant. Nonetheless, I don't find it to be defining.
You're assumption that I don't care would be somewhat incorrect. But you're talking to a woman who has been employed full-time in the workforce for over 34 years; I've yet to work with or for any one person who was exactly equal to anyone else. Fair or not.
Fine. My OP is searching for the reasons why white married women voted the way you do. Obviously equal pay is not a big issue for you as you are a business owner (so you fit some of the other categories of people that I mentioned earlier to - you are probably better off than the average woman, too). So nothing about you doesn't fit my analysis. You are conservative, you are well off, and you don't care about women's economic issues such as equal pay. So no one's arguing with you. Why would someone like you vote with people who actually care about others? You are voting EXACTLY how someone like you would be predicted to vote.
Your posts about equal pay indicate a lack of understanding of what the term means. You can do your own research on that.
Your statement that it does not matter what others earn is one of the singlemost ridiculous things I have heard about pay and discrimination. I guess you don't believe in minimum wage laws, or anything like that either. (Not surprising as you are a business owner, but how very telling). And it is interesting that you don't think equal/fair pay affects you as a business owner. I guess you feel entitled to discriminate and pay women/men/whoever less than others doing the same job should you hire them, because as you've stated, "what others earn is irrelevant". Fair pay does affect employers. Because they are supposed to follow the law (or do you believe you are above the law?)
Republicans have have not been supportive of equal pay initiatives that enable people to sue for discrimination (the only possible redress that women have). For Republicans to support the idea that the Statute of Limitations runs from the first moment of the discriminatory act, and not from the discovery of the unequal pay, essentially takes away any real recourse for women. One might as well not have a law that prohibits pay discrimination, because if it is so difficult to sue then what is the point of it.
There is the law, and then there is how things play out. Things can still play out in a discriminatory manner - and Republicans, by their voting record, have made it very clear that they do not wish to enable ACTUAL victims of pay discrimination to sue their employers. In other words they support the idea that employers can wage discriminate based on gender....and get away with it. The party you support doesn't believe in inequitable pay?? YOU personally believe in inequitable pay (it makes no difference what the person next to you makes) AND YOUR party also believes in inequitable pay, demonstrated by their voting record on equal pay initiatives. Again, no surprises here, but why are you trying to say that you and your party support equal pay when you don't? At least be honest (if not with us, at least with yourself).
Again, my post was searching for the reasons. You have confirmed everything that the rest of us would have thought. Thank you for your response. You, and people who think like you, are exactly why the statistic looks the way it does.
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