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Nosathro -> RE: The conversation we ought to have, instead of guns is (1/18/2013 6:07:40 PM)
First off, studies have shown the mentally ill are no more violent then any other group. There are problems with the Federal Data base. As I pointed out in other threads some of these people who have commited crimes were under care, and were reported to authorities which did nothing. In a current case which I will not mention by name, the accused has admitted having Attention Deficit (Hyperactive) Disorder and is taking medication specifically Adderall and Tamazepam. The disorder syptoms include irresponsible behavior, easily loose temper, quick to anger. The medication have side effects that include psychosis, aggresion, irritabilty, hallucination to name a few. Yet this person did manage to legally obtain weapons. I find it rather funny that some pro gun people dismissed all this, yet now in gerneral are trying to focus on the mentally ill as a means to divert attention away from other issues. http://articles.latimes.com/2013/jan/12/nation/la-na-background-checks-20130113

jlf1961 -> RE: The conversation we ought to have, instead of guns is (1/18/2013 6:16:13 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Nosathro First off, studies have shown the mentally ill are no more violent then any other group. There are problems with the Federal Data base. As I pointed out in other threads some of these people who have commited crimes were under care, and were reported to authorities which did nothing. In a current case which I will not mention by name, the accused has admitted having Attention Deficit (Hyperactive) Disorder and is taking medication specifically Adderall and Tamazepam. The disorder syptoms include irresponsible behavior, easily loose temper, quick to anger. The medication have side effects that include psychosis, aggresion, irritabilty, hallucination to name a few. Yet this person did manage to legally obtain weapons. I find it rather funny that some pro gun people dismissed all this, yet now in gerneral are trying to focus on the mentally ill as a means to divert attention away from other issues. http://articles.latimes.com/2013/jan/12/nation/la-na-background-checks-20130113 Actually, the test would probably be for psychotic or sociopathic behavior patterns, those people are much more likely to be violent, see any report on serial and spree killers.

Ronnie1986 -> RE: The conversation we ought to have, instead of guns is (1/18/2013 6:31:20 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: tazzygirl Infowars? Alex Jones? Pass Something else. whether you want to watch that i not i dont believe for a fucking second this kid was as accurate as he would have had to of been to kill this many.. mommy didnt train him that good.. what i want to know is what security company obama hired to do this as the cop clearly says they are coming my way on his radio scared shitless.. and also there was a minivan thats never mentioned the police shot up that got away.. btw the father of a dead kid is laughing and joking right before he goes on a stand and starts the fake tears i wonder how much they paid him.. furthermore if you care who posted it when it is simply facts being presented thats idiotic.. lol this girls dad is the one that got caught fake crying https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eHv_RhVgfUQ&bpctr=1358564733

Ronnie1986 -> RE: The conversation we ought to have, instead of guns is (1/18/2013 6:34:34 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: jlf1961 Every news story concerning the weapons used by Adam Lanza have stressed a 10mm and 9mm pistols and a bushmaster, the weapon left in the trunk of the car was a shotgun. That backs up Tazzy. i agree it looks like a saiga 12 but all that means is the boy never had a ar15

tazzygirl -> RE: The conversation we ought to have, instead of guns is (1/18/2013 6:35:09 PM)
[sm=Groaner.gif] Alex Jones is the king of the tin foil hat brigade. If you wish to join his army, be my guest.

jlf1961 -> RE: The conversation we ought to have, instead of guns is (1/18/2013 6:39:08 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: tazzygirl [sm=Groaner.gif] Alex Jones is the king of the tin foil hat brigade. If you wish to join his army, be my guest. Alex Jones is the Messiah of the conspiracy theory population of this country. You do know that by insulting him or belittling him you are consigning yourself to hell? or is that Nirvana? I get the two confused.

tazzygirl -> RE: The conversation we ought to have, instead of guns is (1/18/2013 7:07:56 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: whipher1 here is the news as we know it !!! http://video.today.msnbc.msn.com/today/50208495#50208495 Wait... that was aired December 15th. Its already been proven false.

Ronnie1986 -> RE: The conversation we ought to have, instead of guns is (1/18/2013 7:21:56 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: tazzygirl quote: ORIGINAL: whipher1 here is the news as we know it !!! http://video.today.msnbc.msn.com/today/50208495#50208495 Wait... that was aired December 15th. Its already been proven false. no it has not been proven false well maybe i exited it after they said four guns if you mean somthing else then maybe i got bored and couldnt watch anymore.. but he did have four pistols

tazzygirl -> RE: The conversation we ought to have, instead of guns is (1/18/2013 7:37:31 PM)
No, he had a Glock, Sig, A 15... inside.... and a Rifle in the trunk. The Coroner was quite clear on what was used to kill the children.

jlf1961 -> RE: The conversation we ought to have, instead of guns is (1/18/2013 7:42:33 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: tazzygirl No, he had a Glock, Sig, A 15... inside.... and a Rifle in the trunk. The Coroner was quite clear on what was used to kill the children. Yup, the coroner statement was that the children and adults killed were killed by .223 rounds. As for the current conspiracy theory that Obama had some hit squad pull this shit off, man if you believe that, you should not be in possession of firearms, bb guns, fire crackers, alcohol, or gasoline.

Ronnie1986 -> RE: The conversation we ought to have, instead of guns is (1/18/2013 7:50:11 PM)
and if you believe some 20 year old was billy badass crackshot with his mother training him well you are a sheeple

jlf1961 -> RE: The conversation we ought to have, instead of guns is (1/18/2013 7:53:19 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Ronnie1986 and if you believe some 20 year old was billy badass crackshot with his mother training him well you are a sheeple The minors at Columbine did a good job. As for this guy, each of the dead had multiple wounds, and were all found cowering in part of the room. He was just shooting into a mass of bodies. No need for marksmanship. As the surviving Germans who were part of the Einsatzgruppen der Sicherheitspolizei und des SD, there are a few still alive and have served their prison sentences.

Ronnie1986 -> RE: The conversation we ought to have, instead of guns is (1/18/2013 7:57:43 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: jlf1961 quote: ORIGINAL: Ronnie1986 and if you believe some 20 year old was billy badass crackshot with his mother training him well you are a sheeple The minors at Columbine did a good job. As for this guy, each of the dead had multiple wounds, and were all found cowering in part of the room. He was just shooting into a mass of bodies. No need for marksmanship. As the surviving Germans who were part of the Einsatzgruppen der Sicherheitspolizei und des SD, there are a few still alive and have served their prison sentences. how much ammo how many guns and how many students did they manage to kill out of how many bullets shot.. and remember there was two of them.. im sorry dude this kid couldnt have done it unless he was rambos offspring

jlf1961 -> RE: The conversation we ought to have, instead of guns is (1/18/2013 8:00:40 PM)
Uh, I can recommend a good shrink, cause man you need one. This shit rates right up with Bush being behind 9/11. The CIA being behind the JFK assassination. FDR behind the attack on Pearl Harbor.

Ronnie1986 -> RE: The conversation we ought to have, instead of guns is (1/18/2013 8:03:46 PM)
unless youre somone who thinks skyscrappers just magicly fall perfectly stright down here i have included for educational purposes what th rest of america already knows because they did not find ignorance blissful https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rU48jWXYyeA

Lucylastic -> RE: The conversation we ought to have, instead of guns is (1/19/2013 5:20:13 AM)
You tube is NOT regarded as education to anyone with an IQ above their shoe size, as any schmuck with a vid cam can spout whatever he wants. and edit anything to prove anything... Its one thing to believe the government are guilty , its another thing to think joe schmuck cant do the same thing. And stupid people believe them because THEY dont have an agenda, LMFAO what utter bollocks sheeple versus goats.... baaaah

Kirata -> RE: The conversation we ought to have, instead of guns is (1/19/2013 5:42:14 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Lucylastic You tube is NOT regarded as education to anyone with an IQ above their shoe size, as any schmuck with a vid cam can spout whatever he wants. and edit anything to prove anything... Its one thing to believe the government are guilty , its another thing to think joe schmuck cant do the same thing. And stupid people believe them because THEY dont have an agenda, LMFAO what utter bollocks sheeple versus goats.... baaaah Please forgive me if I'm misunderstanding your point, but just because any schmuck can post a video to Youtube doesn't mean that everybody who does is a schmuck -- or that everything you find there is crap for sheeple. Serious questions have been raised about 911 by architects and engineers and pilots (in addition to the usual collection of wackos). I think they deserve a hearing. http://pilotsfor911truth.org/ http://www.ae911truth.org/ K.

Lucylastic -> RE: The conversation we ought to have, instead of guns is (1/19/2013 5:53:39 AM)
I am well aware of that and Yes you are misunderstanding my point AND I've had my doubts about 9/11 since 9/11, AND I'm aware of all the conspiracy theories surrounding it and many other things...I also, have seen more "information" about the theories and the debunked responses than I care to remember. Lets face it we have been having these theories tested, argued and retested since Ive been on Collarme.

Real0ne -> RE: The conversation we ought to have, instead of guns is (1/21/2013 4:16:30 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: TheHeretic The conversation we ought to have, instead of guns is - 12/14/2012 9:36:50 PM Mental health, as a public health issue. good job!

PeonForHer -> RE: The conversation we ought to have, instead of guns is (1/21/2013 4:25:21 PM)
FR The conversation we ought to have, instead of guns, is 'Why are we so desperate to turn the conversation away from the only one which could seriously yield an answer - guns?'

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