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ORIGINAL: thishereboi
As much as I hate what they stand for I can't be for freedom of speech only if I agree with the message.

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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl
Go back and read my posts again.

Nope. Don't see any actual claim by Anonymous for the site being down.

there was a link on some guys you tube video, packman I think where the speaker from anonymous was talking with shirley phelps and said he had done it while they were talking and showed the hacked site
its on video on youtube. ima gonna find the link
Altho I agree with tazzy, finding your own info from links isnt that hard yanno?

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Hello, Westboro Baptist Church.

Allow us to introduce ourselves. We are Anonymous.

As you may not have acknowledged our existence, we, on the otherhand, have recognized yours. We have seen your depraved methods of disseminating your message of hate throughout The United States of America. We have witnessed you defaming the memories of those who sacrificed themselves for the security of our nation, disrupting the peace of the educational environment within high schools and universities, breeding hatred within the fragile minds of your own next of kin, desecrating the name of God by protesting in the proximity of churches and synagogues, and mangling the biblical text to conform in accordance with your malevolent cause.

Your pseudo-faith is abhorrent, and your leaders, repugnant. Your impact and cause is hazardous to the lives of millions and you fail to see the wrong in promoting the deaths of innocent people. You are self-appointed servants of God who rewrite the words of His sacred scripture to adhere to your prejudice. Your hatred supersedes your faith, and you use faith to promote your hatred.

Since your one-dimensional thought protocol will conform not to any modern logic, we will not debate, argue, or attempt to reason with you. Instead, we have unanimously deemed your organization to be harmful to the population of The United States of America, and have therefore decided to execute an agenda of action which will progressively dismantle your institution of deceitful pretext and extreme bias, and cease when your zealotry runs dry. We recognize you as serious opponents, and do not expect our campaign to terminate in a short period of time. Attrition is our weapon, and we will waste no time, money, effort, and enjoyment, in tearing your resolve into pieces, as with exposing the incongruity of your distorted faith.

Anonymous possesses a plethora of information within our network about the many divisions of Christianity and numerous other religious doctrines. Many of us are versed in the biblical text, and we can identify each and every of your violations of scripture. You abuse the Holy Bible which you do not fully comprehend and know not of the thousands of authors to impose upon other people when you can simply coalesce with your loved ones and live in the manner you deem plausible. You engage in reciprocal fornication with another man and preach adultery as a sin. You, Shirley Lynn Phelps-Roper violated Deuteronomy 5:18. As a result, your son Sam is the living, breathing proof of your act of simple loneliness. Simply put, it takes not a genius to realize an arrogant woman's loose moral string, and its predilection to progressively wither and fray.

From the time you have received this message, our attack protocol has past been executed and your downfall is underway. Do not attempt to delude yourselves into thinking you can escape our reach, for we are everywhere, and all-seeing, in the same sense as God. We are a body of individuals who fight for a purpose higher than self, and seek to bring the malevolent intent of the malefactors to light.

We will not allow you to corrupt the minds of America with your seeds of hatred. We will not allow you to inspire aggression to the social factions which you deem inferior. We will render you obsolete. We will destroy you. We are coming.

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Hello, Westboro Baptist Church.

Allow us to introduce ourselves. We are Anonymous.

As you may not have acknowledged our existence, we, on the otherhand, have recognized yours. We have seen your depraved methods of disseminating your message of hate throughout The United States of America. We have witnessed you defaming the memories of those who sacrificed themselves for the security of our nation, disrupting the peace of the educational environment within high schools and universities, breeding hatred within the fragile minds of your own next of kin, desecrating the name of God by protesting in the proximity of churches and synagogues, and mangling the biblical text to conform in accordance with your malevolent cause.

Your pseudo-faith is abhorrent, and your leaders, repugnant. Your impact and cause is hazardous to the lives of millions and you fail to see the wrong in promoting the deaths of innocent people. You are self-appointed servants of God who rewrite the words of His sacred scripture to adhere to your prejudice. Your hatred supersedes your faith, and you use faith to promote your hatred.

Since your one-dimensional thought protocol will conform not to any modern logic, we will not debate, argue, or attempt to reason with you. Instead, we have unanimously deemed your organization to be harmful to the population of The United States of America, and have therefore decided to execute an agenda of action which will progressively dismantle your institution of deceitful pretext and extreme bias, and cease when your zealotry runs dry. We recognize you as serious opponents, and do not expect our campaign to terminate in a short period of time. Attrition is our weapon, and we will waste no time, money, effort, and enjoyment, in tearing your resolve into pieces, as with exposing the incongruity of your distorted faith.

Anonymous possesses a plethora of information within our network about the many divisions of Christianity and numerous other religious doctrines. Many of us are versed in the biblical text, and we can identify each and every of your violations of scripture. You abuse the Holy Bible which you do not fully comprehend and know not of the thousands of authors to impose upon other people when you can simply coalesce with your loved ones and live in the manner you deem plausible. You engage in reciprocal fornication with another man and preach adultery as a sin. You, Shirley Lynn Phelps-Roper violated Deuteronomy 5:18. As a result, your son Sam is the living, breathing proof of your act of simple loneliness. Simply put, it takes not a genius to realize an arrogant woman's loose moral string, and its predilection to progressively wither and fray.

From the time you have received this message, our attack protocol has past been executed and your downfall is underway. Do not attempt to delude yourselves into thinking you can escape our reach, for we are everywhere, and all-seeing, in the same sense as God. We are a body of individuals who fight for a purpose higher than self, and seek to bring the malevolent intent of the malefactors to light.

We will not allow you to corrupt the minds of America with your seeds of hatred. We will not allow you to inspire aggression to the social factions which you deem inferior. We will render you obsolete. We will destroy you. We are coming.

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ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri

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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

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ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri

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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl
Go back and read my posts again.

Nope. Don't see any actual claim by Anonymous for the site being down.

there was a link on some guys you tube video, packman I think where the speaker from anonymous was talking with shirley phelps and said he had done it while they were talking and showed the hacked site
its on video on youtube. ima gonna find the link
Altho I agree with tazzy, finding your own info from links isnt that hard yanno?

Hold on a second. So, I'm saying that I don't see any admissions in Tazzy's links, for which it has been claimed that I have a lack of reading comprehension, and, it turns out, that I would have to have taken links from her links to see/hear the admissions?!? And, with all that, she's tired of doing my research?!? WTF?!?

Thanks for the link in your next post, Lucy. I think David Packman was enjoying Ms. Phelps' blathering on.

Now, my analysis of the video says that "jester" took down all the WBC sites, not anonymous. But, at the end of the video, Anonymous hacked into the WBC site to post something. There is no admission that Anonymous had anything to do with the DoS attacks that took down all the WBC sites. As a matter of fact, there is denial that Anonymous was behind the attacks.

Through this all, I've said, I have no issue with the gathering of public information and it being posted in a convenient format, but that I don't support the illegal activities, which hacking is. The driving force behind my questioning Tazzy is that there is no proof that Anonymous took down the sites. There is proof, at the end of the video you linked to, that Anonymous hacked WBC's site, and I don't support that because it is illegal to do so.

Tazzy alleged that Anonymous took down the sites. She has shown no proof that Anonymous did that, outside of circumstantial evidence. She seems to be tired of my not doing research, yet, it wasn't my allegation to prove. How is that a failure of my researching, when it was her allegation to prove? I read every one of her links and did not find the evidence she claims is there.

To sum up, there is proof that Anonymous hacked the sites (which occurred after the DoS attacks took the WBC sites down), but there is no proof that Anonymous took down the sites.

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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

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ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri

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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl
Go back and read my posts again.

Nope. Don't see any actual claim by Anonymous for the site being down.

there was a link on some guys you tube video, packman I think where the speaker from anonymous was talking with shirley phelps and said he had done it while they were talking and showed the hacked site
its on video on youtube. ima gonna find the link
Altho I agree with tazzy, finding your own info from links isnt that hard yanno?

Hold on a second. So, I'm saying that I don't see any admissions in Tazzy's links, for which it has been claimed that I have a lack of reading comprehension, and, it turns out, that I would have to have taken links from her links to see/hear the admissions?!? And, with all that, she's tired of doing my research?!? WTF?!?
Thanks for the link in your next post, Lucy. I think David Packman was enjoying Ms. Phelps' blathering on.
Now, my analysis of the video says that "jester" took down all the WBC sites, not anonymous. But, at the end of the video, Anonymous hacked into the WBC site to post something. There is no admission that Anonymous had anything to do with the DoS attacks that took down all the WBC sites. As a matter of fact, there is denial that Anonymous was behind the attacks.
Through this all, I've said, I have no issue with the gathering of public information and it being posted in a convenient format, but that I don't support the illegal activities, which hacking is. The driving force behind my questioning Tazzy is that there is no proof that Anonymous took down the sites. There is proof, at the end of the video you linked to, that Anonymous hacked WBC's site, and I don't support that because it is illegal to do so.
Tazzy alleged that Anonymous took down the sites. She has shown no proof that Anonymous did that, outside of circumstantial evidence. She seems to be tired of my not doing research, yet, it wasn't my allegation to prove. How is that a failure of my researching, when it was her allegation to prove? I read every one of her links and did not find the evidence she claims is there.
To sum up, there is proof that Anonymous hacked the sites (which occurred after the DoS attacks took the WBC sites down), but there is no proof that Anonymous took down the sites.

It was a different set of times that the sites were taken down DS

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ORIGINAL: Marc2b

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Hello, Westboro Baptist Church.

Allow us to introduce ourselves. We are Anonymous.

As you may not have acknowledged our existence, we, on the otherhand, have recognized yours. We have seen your depraved methods of disseminating your message of hate throughout The United States of America. We have witnessed you defaming the memories of those who sacrificed themselves for the security of our nation, disrupting the peace of the educational environment within high schools and universities, breeding hatred within the fragile minds of your own next of kin, desecrating the name of God by protesting in the proximity of churches and synagogues, and mangling the biblical text to conform in accordance with your malevolent cause.

Your pseudo-faith is abhorrent, and your leaders, repugnant. Your impact and cause is hazardous to the lives of millions and you fail to see the wrong in promoting the deaths of innocent people. You are self-appointed servants of God who rewrite the words of His sacred scripture to adhere to your prejudice. Your hatred supersedes your faith, and you use faith to promote your hatred.

Since your one-dimensional thought protocol will conform not to any modern logic, we will not debate, argue, or attempt to reason with you. Instead, we have unanimously deemed your organization to be harmful to the population of The United States of America, and have therefore decided to execute an agenda of action which will progressively dismantle your institution of deceitful pretext and extreme bias, and cease when your zealotry runs dry. We recognize you as serious opponents, and do not expect our campaign to terminate in a short period of time. Attrition is our weapon, and we will waste no time, money, effort, and enjoyment, in tearing your resolve into pieces, as with exposing the incongruity of your distorted faith.

Anonymous possesses a plethora of information within our network about the many divisions of Christianity and numerous other religious doctrines. Many of us are versed in the biblical text, and we can identify each and every of your violations of scripture. You abuse the Holy Bible which you do not fully comprehend and know not of the thousands of authors to impose upon other people when you can simply coalesce with your loved ones and live in the manner you deem plausible. You engage in reciprocal fornication with another man and preach adultery as a sin. You, Shirley Lynn Phelps-Roper violated Deuteronomy 5:18. As a result, your son Sam is the living, breathing proof of your act of simple loneliness. Simply put, it takes not a genius to realize an arrogant woman's loose moral string, and its predilection to progressively wither and fray.

From the time you have received this message, our attack protocol has past been executed and your downfall is underway. Do not attempt to delude yourselves into thinking you can escape our reach, for we are everywhere, and all-seeing, in the same sense as God. We are a body of individuals who fight for a purpose higher than self, and seek to bring the malevolent intent of the malefactors to light.

We will not allow you to corrupt the minds of America with your seeds of hatred. We will not allow you to inspire aggression to the social factions which you deem inferior. We will render you obsolete. We will destroy you. We are coming.

Thank you for making my point... Anonymous is indeed nearly as hypocritical, arrogant and contemptible as the Westboro bunch.

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Anonymous admitted - gloated about, even - to hacking the WBC downloads page and putting up a message. That is not the same as the DoS attacks that took out all of WBC's sites. I'm not questioning the legitimacy of the hack admitted to. I'm questioning whether or not it was Anonymous behind the DoS attacks. That is what Tazzy seems to be alleging. I have yet to see or hear any proof for that.

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Anonymous admitted - gloated about, even - to hacking the WBC downloads page and putting up a message. That is not the same as the DoS attacks that took out all of WBC's sites. I'm not questioning the legitimacy of the hack admitted to. I'm questioning whether or not it was Anonymous behind the DoS attacks. That is what Tazzy seems to be alleging. I have yet to see or hear any proof for that.

Anonymous took responsibilty. Dont blame us because I wont hold your hand any longer and walk you through the links to show you where the information is.
Grab your big boy pants, pull them up and actually look at links for a change.
If not, continue to look as uninformed as you do now.
Your choice.

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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl
They do. Links are embedded in those links.
Sorry toots... do your own research... everything is available.

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In this case, I have a hard time disagreeing with what anonymous has apparently done.

Legally, it's wrong but............

Sometimes, you just need to flip the rock over and kill the vipers that were hiding under it.

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Really? Which funerals have they disrupted, then?
My own feeling is that this is less about Anonymous' hypocrisy and more about the WBC needing to man up and eat the can of worms that they've opened.