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RE: Republicans will support gun control this time - 12/19/2012 8:32:02 AM   
slvemike4u


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ORIGINAL: SimplyMichael

California has gun laws so convoluted, two identical guns, one is onlylegal with a bayonet the other illegal without it.

Its so confusing not even dept of justice can tell you whether certain things are legal or not.

Same goes with federal law on things like pistols with stocks, some repos are legal, some arent. I coilf go on bit its pointless

These laws that you bitch about ,the ones currently on the books?
The ones that are so convoluted as to be ridiculous,the ones that have no discernible effect on crime/violence rates .



They were written under the gun,so to speak,of the NRA,in some cases they were written ,either in whole,or in part by the NRA(or it's bought and paid for lackeys).

Than you,and others ,come here and tell us "gun control laws are ineffectual" !
Of course they are...that was the fucking intention.

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RE: Republicans will support gun control this time - 12/19/2012 8:34:47 AM   
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I am well aware of what they have said dosent mean I hold it to be true ass soon as a more enlightened body is elected the law will be as it should. I still just do what ever I want. lets say i dident sign my social contract and am still negotiating.

Tell me again about that whole "law abiding citizens right to bear arms" thing



I have always liked fairy tales

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RE: Republicans will support gun control this time - 12/19/2012 8:37:40 AM   
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RE: Republicans will support gun control this time - 12/19/2012 8:40:03 AM   
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RE: Republicans will support gun control this time - 12/19/2012 8:41:13 AM   
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What you people fail to grasp is that the NRA unlike almost every.other.lobby group.is NOT an industry lobby, its money comes primarily from people, not corps. Money only buys votes, the NRA IS votes, so it has both.

I have never liked the NRA being myself quite liberal.

So yes, next year instead of looking at how the wealthy have fucked us firdt by stealing us blind, then getting us to tip them.for the service...we will be talking about gun control...

Enjoy.

Thats an out and out fucking lie.
And a pretty bold faced one too
I am sure Tazzy will come along with facts and figures for you....In my case I will just indict you for offering bullshit.
Gun manufacturers are indeed Corporations...and are the biggest supporters of the NRA's lobbying arm.
NRA members themselves are very much in favor of sensible legislation,it's the idiots and the makers who stand in the way.

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RE: Republicans will support gun control this time - 12/19/2012 8:44:12 AM   
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So, what would your gun control look like?

Asked and answered numerous times by numerous posters.
I am not repeating myself,or repeating the posts of others for folks who paid no attention the first time and have no inclination of listening this time.


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RE: Republicans will support gun control this time - 12/19/2012 8:45:29 AM   
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I would make it a law that evryone has to use two hands

To be expected....from the likes of you.

20 children dead and you can come up with some gallows humor.

Aren't you the witty one.

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RE: Republicans will support gun control this time - 12/19/2012 9:27:24 AM   
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Your assessment of the political landscape is as flawed as your views on guns.

There will be no tax breaks for the rich,the Bush"temporary" tax breaks will expire,President Obama is not horse trading here.


He has no need to.



Has nothing to do with my view on guns, it has to do with the fact Boehner and the house republicans are dead set against Obama achieving shit.

The fact is that Obama and the Senate Democrats have been dead set against Boehner and the House Republicans achieving actual debt reduction.

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RE: Republicans will support gun control this time - 12/19/2012 9:31:11 AM   
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Status: offline 		Actual debt reduction can be achieved by ,in part,raising revenues .

Glad to hear you favor this step .

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RE: Republicans will support gun control this time - 12/19/2012 9:31:55 AM   
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Oh ffs.... ban and control can be two completely different things.

Oh ffs yourself.... Executive control can effect the same end-result as a Legislative ban.

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RE: Republicans will support gun control this time - 12/19/2012 9:40:32 AM   
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Lots of guns you cant buy new, chinese tokarev, german walther ppk, m4 survival rifle, marbles game getter, etc.

Then it's a good thing my father kept the the WII era German Walther PPK with the SS logo on the grip that he took from the SS Officer he shot and killed during the liberation of Paris, eh? Nice little gun, that SS PPK. :-)

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RE: Republicans will support gun control this time - 12/19/2012 9:47:06 AM   
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And yet you can see NO grounds to give on this issue... none... no where.... at all.

I see NO grounds to give on the gun-control issue...none...no where...at all...until Dems give...most of the way...on the abortion issue for the plain and simple reason that abortion snuffs out an average of 3,300 helpless innocent lives EACH AND EVERY DAY in America. You wanna ban/control something? How banning/controlling what takes more helpless innocent lives EACH AND EVERY DAY than anything else.

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RE: Republicans will support gun control this time - 12/19/2012 9:51:03 AM   
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I have very little give with my rights.


And the right to live?


Are you pro-choice?

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RE: Republicans will support gun control this time - 12/19/2012 9:54:33 AM   
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The tide is definitely turning

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RE: Republicans will support gun control this time - 12/19/2012 9:55:26 AM   
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fucking stupid

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RE: Republicans will support gun control this time - 12/19/2012 10:00:46 AM   
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RE: Republicans will support gun control this time - 12/19/2012 10:03:21 AM   
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RE: Republicans will support gun control this time - 12/19/2012 10:08:02 AM   
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1... no shit. I know damn well what gun was in that case. Why the fuck do you feel the need... the unmitigated gall... to treat people like fucking morons, I have no clue...

2.. Now, this will be the very last time I address you. I have had my fill of your bullshit on these threads and I have lost all respect for you.

Do have a great life.

No shit Sherlock. Why the fuck you feel the need...have the unmitigated gall...to treat people like fucking morons then throw a hissy-fit when they return the favor, I have no clue...except one...you're a typical liberal.

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RE: Republicans will support gun control this time - 12/19/2012 10:14:13 AM   
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I agree....for both sexes, Im all for mandating vasectomy till every male reaches economic and personal responsibility.


Clip em all, even better. Sterilize them all at birth or when they immigrate here! Completly reversible of course, ban any medical plan from paying for it so they have to pay for it themselves.

It would solve so many problems but will never happen unlike gun control which will happen and solve no problems!

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RE: Republicans will support gun control this time - 12/19/2012 10:17:37 AM   
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Actual debt reduction can be achieved by ,in part,raising revenues .

Glad to hear you favor this step .

Indeed it can, in part.
I do indeed favor raising revenues.


However, debt reduction cannot be achieved without the other part, decreasing spending.

Glad to hear you favor that step, unlike Obama and Dems who have flip-flopped from a 3:1 spending cuts to tax increases ratio during the latter stages of the 2012 election to a 4:1 tax increases to spending ratio post-election.

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