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BamaD -> RE: All things gun control go here (12/30/2012 11:57:10 PM)


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ORIGINAL: BamaD


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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

No, you are trying to establish them. Show me proof.

a person walks into a place were guns are not allowed shoots people left and right continues until he meets armed opposition then kills himself or surrenders right away without a fight
what incident am I talking about?

once again your view is sacred even though lacking in proof but since I disagree with you I must prove every word




tazzygirl -> RE: All things gun control go here (12/30/2012 11:58:55 PM)

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wrong, I am talking about auroa, newtown, pearl miss, columbine, viginia tech on


Newtown... mom's school.. personal attachment

Columbine... students were bullied... personal attachment... known guns at school with cops

Virgina Tech... a student... known guns at school.. so he created a diversion to get all the guns in one place and moved on to another target

Aurora ... we dont know why yet

Pearl High School.... another student.... who left a note saying how he was beaten and mistreated. Personal attachment.

You seem to believe that these places were chosen because they were no gun zones. No, they were chosen because of the personal attachment each person had with the place, the level of anger/resentment each person had attached to that place and the fact that they knew the layouts.




BamaD -> RE: All things gun control go here (12/31/2012 12:03:35 AM)


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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

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wrong, I am talking about auroa, newtown, pearl miss, columbine, viginia tech on


Newtown... mom's school.. personal attachment

Columbine... students were bullied... personal attachment... known guns at school with cops

Virgina Tech... a student... known guns at school.. so he created a diversion to get all the guns in one place and moved on to another target

Aurora ... we dont know why yet

Pearl High School.... another student.... who left a note saying how he was beaten and mistreated. Personal attachment.

You seem to believe that these places were chosen because they were no gun zones. No, they were chosen because of the personal attachment each person had with the place, the level of anger/resentment each person had attached to that place and the fact that they knew the layouts.

and yet you balme it on guns




tazzygirl -> RE: All things gun control go here (12/31/2012 12:04:34 AM)

Where did I blame it on guns?

I blamed it on the ease of access for these nut cases to GET guns.




BamaD -> RE: All things gun control go here (12/31/2012 12:06:40 AM)


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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

Where did I blame it on guns?

I blamed it on the ease of access for these nut cases to GET guns.

right it's not the guns, its because people have them




BamaD -> RE: All things gun control go here (12/31/2012 12:08:14 AM)

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ORIGINAL: BamaD


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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

Where did I blame it on guns?

I blamed it on the ease of access for these nut cases to GET guns.

right it's not the guns, its because people have them

and of course we fix the problem by retricting every one acess to guns right nail the innocent in the hopes of slowing down the guilty




tazzygirl -> RE: All things gun control go here (12/31/2012 12:10:26 AM)

what access am I restricting to legal gun owners by asking them to lock them up?




BamaD -> RE: All things gun control go here (12/31/2012 12:11:34 AM)


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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

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wrong, I am talking about auroa, newtown, pearl miss, columbine, viginia tech on


Newtown... mom's school.. personal attachment

Columbine... students were bullied... personal attachment... known guns at school with cops

Virgina Tech... a student... known guns at school.. so he created a diversion to get all the guns in one place and moved on to another target

Aurora ... we dont know why yet

Pearl High School.... another student.... who left a note saying how he was beaten and mistreated. Personal attachment.

You seem to believe that these places were chosen because they were no gun zones. No, they were chosen because of the personal attachment each person had with the place, the level of anger/resentment each person had attached to that place and the fact that they knew the layouts.

and the reason they all either killed themselfs or surrendered upon meeting armed opposition? this should be a good laugh




tazzygirl -> RE: All things gun control go here (12/31/2012 12:12:13 AM)


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ORIGINAL: BamaD


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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

Where did I blame it on guns?

I blamed it on the ease of access for these nut cases to GET guns.

right it's not the guns, its because people have them


Again, you are reading what you want too.

Some people have the legal right to own guns.

Some do not.

You are fine with having those who have no legal right access because it may take you a few moments to get yours out of the safe.

Got it.




BamaD -> RE: All things gun control go here (12/31/2012 12:12:37 AM)


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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

what access am I restricting to legal gun owners by asking them to lock them up?

two pages ago you said resticting acess was the answer




tazzygirl -> RE: All things gun control go here (12/31/2012 12:13:35 AM)


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ORIGINAL: BamaD


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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

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wrong, I am talking about auroa, newtown, pearl miss, columbine, viginia tech on


Newtown... mom's school.. personal attachment

Columbine... students were bullied... personal attachment... known guns at school with cops

Virgina Tech... a student... known guns at school.. so he created a diversion to get all the guns in one place and moved on to another target

Aurora ... we dont know why yet

Pearl High School.... another student.... who left a note saying how he was beaten and mistreated. Personal attachment.

You seem to believe that these places were chosen because they were no gun zones. No, they were chosen because of the personal attachment each person had with the place, the level of anger/resentment each person had attached to that place and the fact that they knew the layouts.

and the reason they all either killed themselfs or surrendered upon meeting armed opposition? this should be a good laugh


Because they are narcissistic as the psychology article stated. Either they didnt want to go to jail, or they didnt want to die.




BamaD -> RE: All things gun control go here (12/31/2012 12:13:41 AM)


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ORIGINAL: BamaD


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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

what access am I restricting to legal gun owners by asking them to lock them up?

two pages ago you said resticting acess was the answer

and by all means lets penalize the gun owners




tazzygirl -> RE: All things gun control go here (12/31/2012 12:14:56 AM)


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ORIGINAL: BamaD


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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

what access am I restricting to legal gun owners by asking them to lock them up?

two pages ago you said resticting acess was the answer


I am.. and have said it all along. Restricting access to the nut jobs. Which means legal gun owners taking responsibility for the access and locking them up. My position on this has not changed in the least.




BamaD -> RE: All things gun control go here (12/31/2012 12:16:55 AM)


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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl


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ORIGINAL: BamaD


quote:

ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

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wrong, I am talking about auroa, newtown, pearl miss, columbine, viginia tech on


Newtown... mom's school.. personal attachment

Columbine... students were bullied... personal attachment... known guns at school with cops

Virgina Tech... a student... known guns at school.. so he created a diversion to get all the guns in one place and moved on to another target

Aurora ... we dont know why yet

Pearl High School.... another student.... who left a note saying how he was beaten and mistreated. Personal attachment.

You seem to believe that these places were chosen because they were no gun zones. No, they were chosen because of the personal attachment each person had with the place, the level of anger/resentment each person had attached to that place and the fact that they knew the layouts.

and the reason they all either killed themselfs or surrendered upon meeting armed opposition? this should be a good laugh


Because they are narcissistic as the psychology article stated. Either they didnt want to go to jail, or they didnt want to die.

look I would find you very entertaining except you clearly believe these anti gun talking points
everything you have said here is supposition
prove that is why they did it
don't say another thing to me unless you canback it up with absolute proof what is good for the gander is good for the goose




tazzygirl -> RE: All things gun control go here (12/31/2012 12:19:09 AM)

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look I would find you very entertaining except you clearly believe these anti gun talking points
everything you have said here is supposition
prove that is why they did it
don't say another thing to me unless you canback it up with absolute proof what is good for the gander is good for the goose


I did.. and have. Do the search yourself. Look up each of the shootings you mentioned. The attachment to each place is well documented. The incidents are described in detail. Students feeling bullied and abused. Cops at Columbine.

A psychology report indicating why mass murders kill and how they pick their targets.

I cant help you dont like the proof. But its out there.




BamaD -> RE: All things gun control go here (12/31/2012 1:13:02 AM)

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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl


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ORIGINAL: BamaD


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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

Where did I blame it on guns?

I blamed it on the ease of access for these nut cases to GET guns.

right it's not the guns, its because people have them


Again, you are reading what you want too.

Some people have the legal right to own guns.

Some do not.

You are fine with having those who have no legal right access because it may take you a few moments to get yours out of the safe.

Got it.


again you jump to irrational conclusions I have owned a gun safe for over a decade
besides you previously stated that the guns would only have to be locked up when I wasn't physically presentto protect them myself so the delay in getting to them wouldn't be relevant
I pay for insurance because it is right I don't like for the state to pretend they are forcing me to
I have a gun safe for security but I don't want the gov dictating to me what kind I will have and again pretending the are forcing me to
your Va tech explination said he created a diversion to see to it that the guns weren't in the way when he started shooting by your analitical criteria thismeans that you are wrong on every example you gave (remember that since the guy at the mall ran into someone with a gun that proves(acording to you ) that the theater couldn't have been choosen because it was a gun free zone)
once again you are just spouting anti gun talking points
even if I didn't want to own a gun safe to say that I am ok with people who have no legal acsess is absurd




BamaD -> RE: All things gun control go here (12/31/2012 1:16:25 AM)


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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

what access am I restricting to legal gun owners by asking them to lock them up?

you don't want to ask them to you want to demand it




BamaD -> RE: All things gun control go here (12/31/2012 1:19:29 AM)

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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl


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ORIGINAL: BamaD


quote:

ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

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wrong, I am talking about auroa, newtown, pearl miss, columbine, viginia tech on


Newtown... mom's school.. personal attachment

Columbine... students were bullied... personal attachment... known guns at school with cops

Virgina Tech... a student... known guns at school.. so he created a diversion to get all the guns in one place and moved on to another target

Aurora ... we dont know why yet

Pearl High School.... another student.... who left a note saying how he was beaten and mistreated. Personal attachment.

You seem to believe that these places were chosen because they were no gun zones. No, they were chosen because of the personal attachment each person had with the place, the level of anger/resentment each person had attached to that place and the fact that they knew the layouts.

and the reason they all either killed themselfs or surrendered upon meeting armed opposition? this should be a good laugh


Because they are narcissistic as the psychology article stated. Either they didnt want to go to jail, or they didnt want to die.

and death or capture was signified by armed opposition except according to you the mall shooter who panicked when his rifle jammed and shot himself with one of the other guns he had brought to shoot innocent people and by your criteria this disproves your argument on why they surender or kill themselves




BamaD -> RE: All things gun control go here (12/31/2012 1:24:49 AM)

btw large capacity magazines are far more likely to jam
A there is more stress on the spring
B they usually do not come from the same manufacturer as the firearm

When the 223 with the large magazine jammed he switched to the more lethal shotgun




Kirata -> RE: All things gun control go here (12/31/2012 1:43:46 AM)


The pattern of a payback-minded shooter with a history of anti-depressant medication is what stands out for me.

K.




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