epiphiny43
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"Securing guns" is like securing anything else. It only slows down a thief. People who think a gun safe secures anything simply need to get out more. Visit your local big box hardware store. Look at the nice battery powered drills and reciprocating saws. Gun safes and jewelry safes are only as secure as the will and time of the thief are lacking. Most of us handiman types can get in an expensive safe in 10 minutes. Without enough noise to be heard off the property. Top end safes cost thousands and if not built in to the structure so there is obstructed access, not that much longer. A very protable cutting torch defeats any safe but a professionally installed hardened metal jewelry store safe. The idea is a Fail. It deflects real attention and efforts from the only effective counter to insane attacks of innocent civilians or children, identifying the unbalance people and treating or restricting them. Nobody likes this because it's Hard and Expensive. But nothing else works. Thinking America can be divested of guns is delusional. The numbers might be cut some, significantly, if civil liberties and the traditions of the Bill of Rights are disposed with.
30 children a day in America are dying in traffic. Most in their parent's cars. Somehow this is acceptable? And about as easy to fix as the insane attacking schools with whatever weapon they arrive with. Guns are horrifying, and a lot less lethal than might be deployed. The current attention on Newtown is making one more anti-hero for the crazies emulate, lets make sure they don't have the low end of destruction available?? The Bath school bombing killed more people than Sandy Hook, injured even more, and the count was only a fraction of who would have died if the bomber hadn't been incompetent. There are decidedly more potent explosives about and widely available now than dynamite.
By the time someone is figuring out what method to use to kill large numbers of people, the ship has sailed. We can only change the dynamic by involving the community in all it's members, and finding the disturbed before they make the front pages. Far more difficult than passing a law about someone elses guns and pretending the issue is fixed.
I'm seeing Tazzy's new legal principle in action. I get my wallet stolen, the thief buys drugs with my money, shares them with his siblings, one dies, I'm on the hook for it? Or the farmer who didn't have a good enough safe for his diesel fuel and the fertilizer for the back 40. Now another Federal building is wasted and he's responsible? Legal priciples are nasty that way, like most things, there are unanticipated consequences. Like someone making a totally logical extension of the principle and turning morality and causation on it's head? And we trust the professional clowns in Congress and the career miscreants who populate many civil service offices to make truly effective and minimally invasive laws on securing guns? Look at the health care system, the War on Drugs or the FDA, how can that level of competence have a real effect on school attacks?
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