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RE: Edict - 12/22/2012 12:13:10 PM   
AthenaSurrenders


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Okie dokie then!

In reference to you earlier question, according to google image search, you're a prostitute. Is that what you meant when you asked if I know your profession?

Edit: sorry mods, didn't see your post until just now.

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RE: Edict - 12/22/2012 12:14:41 PM   
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Do you have permission to post pictures of partners on here or are you a glutton for lawsuits?

Seriously, that's about the STUPIDEST fucking thing Ive heard lately.

As for posting, how would you be sure I don't just pick up candid pics out of an album?


Why is my post being pulled? Yes I have permission, and I would be sure you didn't steal pics from some album because you'd be in the pics together with the broads.

Want to know the stupidest fucking thing I've heard lately? Your insult directed at me.

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RE: Edict - 12/22/2012 12:21:56 PM   
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Thank you Athena, we do give some time for people to post what they were already working on and might not have seen.

To the thread in general. Please return to the OP.

Thank you

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RE: Edict - 12/22/2012 12:21:59 PM   
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Well I'm done now that the mods are here, see y'all again in another month or so.

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RE: Edict - 12/22/2012 12:25:30 PM   
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what, no credit for guessing your job?

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RE: Edict - 12/22/2012 1:22:29 PM   
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Lawsuits? Seriously? Few people here even have the financial ability to bring a lawsuit and if they do, they aren't stupid enough to attempt it.


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RE: Edict - 12/22/2012 1:28:15 PM   
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Please return to the topic.

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RE: Edict - 12/22/2012 2:11:19 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Dirk1986

Does anyone have any advice on how to prove the legitimacy of someone without video or voice chat? I understand that subs and slaves have ran into a thousand scammers that that is there only goal is to get them on Skype, so I can understand there reasons, but there has to be some way to gain enough trust to get to that point.

Thanks :)


If you can't see them, and you can't talk to them, I'm not sure what you're doing with them, but it's probably not communication. That said, the word that stuck out for me like a sore thumb was trust.

Look at the people who do trust you and ask yourself why they do. They probably took the time to get to know you and are compatible with you on one or more levels. Past all the sex and kink, the person you want to meet is still a person. Apply the same rules and you'll meet more success.

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RE: Edict - 12/22/2012 2:46:44 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: RemoteUser


quote:

ORIGINAL: Dirk1986

Does anyone have any advice on how to prove the legitimacy of someone without video or voice chat? I understand that subs and slaves have ran into a thousand scammers that that is there only goal is to get them on Skype, so I can understand there reasons, but there has to be some way to gain enough trust to get to that point.

Thanks :)


If you can't see them, and you can't talk to them, I'm not sure what you're doing with them, but it's probably not communication. That said, the word that stuck out for me like a sore thumb was trust.

Look at the people who do trust you and ask yourself why they do. They probably took the time to get to know you and are compatible with you on one or more levels. Past all the sex and kink, the person you want to meet is still a person. Apply the same rules and you'll meet more success.


Taking time to get to KNOW someone is how trust happens. I don't jump right on webcam with someone whom I've only had a few brief CM conversations with. If they want to circumvent that and start INSISTING to see Me before I am COMFORTABLE with them, the red flag goes up and I block them. Voice chat isn't such a problem but still I'm not going out of My way for someone who isn't interested in forming a friendship.

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RE: Edict - 12/22/2012 3:08:00 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Aderious511

Then post a photo or any evidence whatsoever of the last female entity you met on this site who was under 30 years old and weighed less than 160 lbs.


I'm not going to do it again here because I don't pander to gratuitous commentary, but I have in fact done this. It was my girl, with her consent, showing off the collar I gave her. I met her here and never used a cam or the phone to "verify" her. The purpose of contacting her by phone was to communicate and hear her voice (which I find sexy). The cam chat let us interact face to face despite distance, and wasn't to have sex but to indulge in one another's company with a visual nuance.

She approached me first, and I'm very glad she did. My girl didn't message me for sex, she's a damn fine looking woman and she could get sex if she wanted to; instead, we talked about the poetry I write. We got to know each other, which was what I offered as advice to the OP (in different words).

If you go by the presumption that people only go to CollarMe to get laid, and only meet to have sex, then perhaps the phone or cam are more significant criteria to meet your goals. This doesn't merit the derision of any different methods or goals that other people may have, nor does it patently disqualify them. Moreover, if you are having no luck with your current methods, that makes using other methods more viable statistically. If you want to succeed, don't stick to unsuccessful approaches.

This post is as much for the edification of the poster, as it is the OP. I just thought it poignant that the figures for age and weight quoted apply exactly to the woman I'm in love with. Her existence alone debunks the proposed theory.

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RE: Edict - 12/22/2012 3:13:06 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Aderious511

quote:

ORIGINAL: Kaliko
Uh...do you want to re-read my post? I was agreeing with you. Much to my chagrin.


I didn't read past the first paragraph, admittedly. Now that I have, I don't take back anything I wrote. I would simply direct it at others on this site rather than you.



Wow, plow right on through, juggernaut style, even when you've erred...good quality in a Dom. Kudos!
*sarcastic eye roll*

Keep in mind, any potential subs who may actually fit your "requirements" CAN ALSO READ ALL YOUR POSTS. I don't see any Dominant behavior in you, all I see is an ABUSIVE TIRADE which you yourself can't seem to calm down...a spoiled child who can't get his own way so in his frustration uses VOLUME to get people to listen. I sincerely hope no one is dumb enough to allow you to tie them up. If you are like this on HERE, what would you be like in private where thousands of people AREN'T watching? Seriously, seek anger management counseling before you Play with anyone.

Oh, and to everyone, HAPPY HOLIDAYS!

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RE: Edict - 12/22/2012 3:47:41 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Kana

Ya know, funny thing. I don't think I've ever asked anyone for a pic, much less cam verification (I know I haven't done that. I don't own a webcam and my firewalls get all screwy when I try to accept another's cam) and over the years I've done quite well on here.
Why?
Well gee, lets start with the minor fact that I have a brain, and even more shockingly, use it.
Most fakes are obviously so (Cuz they can't speak english), and the ones that don't reveal on the first mail show their colors by mail number three.
If you can't sport the vast majority merely by talking with em, maybe domming isn't the right line of work, cuz it takes things like, you know, insight and intuitive thinking, reading others, learning to read between the behavioral lines.



What's even funnier is that him and I talked online for two years without asking each other for photos or to verify who each other was. It wasn't difficult to tell if we were fake or not just by chatting back and forth. At your age if you cannot tell a fake from a real just by plain old conversation, please turn off your computer and interact with women in real life for awhile. Please. You're doing no one any favors by thinking everyone is a fake, including yourself. Hell, I could say that you're a fake because you're so negative and sound like a 12 year old boy who isn't getting his way.


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RE: Edict - 12/22/2012 4:02:50 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Aderious511



You want a guy with a job, a house, who isn't cheating on his wife, etc...?
Great. We want a bitch who can make our dicks hard. So you ask us about our careers, and we'll ask you about your bodies. Both parties verify themselves to one another.



I never much cared about money either. Or power, or connections. Surprisingly because I was self sufficient and didn't give a crap about all of that beyond the ability to support themselves, I ended up with some guys that actually possessed those very things.

The cheating on his wife thing is an entirely different animal. Yes, I want someone who isn't LYING to the most important person in his life. That's character thing, not a material thing.

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RE: Edict - 12/22/2012 4:16:03 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Aderious511

quote:

ORIGINAL: AthenaSurrenders

I've said this before but it bears repeating: all these hideous cretins you so despise are out there having fulfilling, successful kinky relationships and sex.


You've said it before and I refuted it before. You were wrong then and you are still wrong now. Nothing has changed. I made a journal entry to deal with this faulty line of reasoning. I strongly suggest you read it and commit its points to heart.

The answer is: "No they're not." I have spoken to numerous other Doms and couples here. The Doms tell me, almost without exception, that they have had absolutely no luck on here. They are sitting in exactly the same boat as me, despite being all over the map in terms of age, race, background, appearance, experience, etc... The couples tell me, almost without exception, that they did NOT meet on this POS site, but elsewhere (95% of the time real life). The sub girls tell me, almost without exception, that they have never met anyone off this site and don't intend to. Even "dommes" complain that all of the young female subs on this site are flakes and it's impossible to meet them in real life.

So quit spouting your BS. It's wrong. Patently false. You are lying.

quote:

ORIGINAL: AthenaSurrenders
You're not finding what you seek,


Answer this before proceeding: How do you know? How do you know I'm not finding what I seek? What do you know about me? Do you know my name? My occupation? My address? My job? My relationship status? If so, post them here, I give you full consent to do so.

What do you know about me and where do you get off thinking that you can make baseless assumptions about my personal life?

No, really: Answer the question.

Ahhh, I was trying to decide which hatefilled misanthropic post I was gonna comment on and it was almost impossible to do, there's simply too many to count.
1-If the doms have a problem on here, maybe, just maybe, they need to look in the mirror. Maybe they've been posting degenerate shit, have a profile full of jaded cynical misogynistic crap(Kinda like you-poster boy...and yeah, I mean exactly that, boy.), or maybe they haven't yet realized pretty much the number one rule of dating online-if you aren't the sorta guy who can get a hottie off line, you ain't gonna get one here.
2-Raises hand. I met the mouse here, all 105 pounds of her, some 7 years ago. Still kicking strong. I've also met pornstars, actresses, lawyers, doctors, kink.com models, escorts, all sorts of hotties. So yeah, it can be done. I know, I've done it. And I ain't the only one-take a gander at some posts by Stephann and Charlotte, or many others. Look at Maria, that gal is smoking. There's lots and lots of smart, beautiful, terrific gals on here, just because they don't date YOU tells us nothing about them, but speaks volumes about you. Backpedals, well shit,actually it does say something aout them. It says they have taste, sense and discretion, unfortunately the same doesn't apply in reverse.
3-Couples, yeah, I'll give you that. It's a lot tougher for them, but I think that's less to do with CM than basic human nature. Let's face it, most people, especially women want to feel special to that certain someone they love, and subs/slaves, they tend to be greedy about this. They have this utterly irrational idea that if they're gonna give their hearts, minds, bodies, trust, etc...to a a guy, they want all his attention focused on them-they don't seem to split well (At least that's my experience, but I gotta say, from what I see at the local TNG, sharing is very in vogue). And ya know what, I can undersatdn where they're coming from. Seems rational to me.
4-I've read your profile, and frankly, I can understand why a gal wouldn't want anything to do with you. You come off as insulting and derogatory, and snide as all get out.As you've brilliantly mentioned above, yeah, women can find guys a lot easier than vice versa. This applies doubly, triply, 5,000,000 times so with a hot young chica, she literally has 1/2 the site rolling through her inbox.And my man, I can tell you this, if she reads your profile, if she reads your posts, if you communicate in any way shape or form to them the way you do to us, you ain't gotta chance in hell.
And frankly, that's a terrific thing, cuz from the cheap seats where I'm sitting, you have a long way to go, not as a man, not as a dom, but as a human being before you should be in a relationship.
Everything about you smacks of angry hostile abuser. And if I think so, some poor gal whose had the sewage that is the vast majority of the male population of CM rolling through her inbox is gonna be twice as wary and 8 trillion times as quick to jettison your ass.
But hey, that's JMHO.
What the fuck do I know. Like I said, I've only interacted with slews of gals from here and owned one for an extended period of time, I'm obviously fake because I don't fit into the world your illusions/delusions have created.
My prescription is, Physician, heal thyself.

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RE: Edict - 12/22/2012 4:22:45 PM   
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I don't do poly, but from a woman's point of view, you need to describe who you are, what your current arrangement is and how it works. What do you offer (other than sex & housing)? What I am getting at is that you won't have to verify identity if you,ale a serious effort to NOT attract fakes. Plus, have a few online emails through CM until you get a good feel. "Cut bait" if the sole topic of interest is sex or money. After you decide if you have anything in common, meet at a neutral location. (Caveat-since there is another person involved the two of them should be going through the same steps).

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RE: Edict - 12/22/2012 7:43:11 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Kana


quote:

ORIGINAL: Aderious511

quote:

ORIGINAL: AthenaSurrenders

I've said this before but it bears repeating: all these hideous cretins you so despise are out there having fulfilling, successful kinky relationships and sex.


You've said it before and I refuted it before. You were wrong then and you are still wrong now. Nothing has changed. I made a journal entry to deal with this faulty line of reasoning. I strongly suggest you read it and commit its points to heart.

The answer is: "No they're not." I have spoken to numerous other Doms and couples here. The Doms tell me, almost without exception, that they have had absolutely no luck on here. They are sitting in exactly the same boat as me, despite being all over the map in terms of age, race, background, appearance, experience, etc... The couples tell me, almost without exception, that they did NOT meet on this POS site, but elsewhere (95% of the time real life). The sub girls tell me, almost without exception, that they have never met anyone off this site and don't intend to. Even "dommes" complain that all of the young female subs on this site are flakes and it's impossible to meet them in real life.

So quit spouting your BS. It's wrong. Patently false. You are lying.

quote:

ORIGINAL: AthenaSurrenders
You're not finding what you seek,


Answer this before proceeding: How do you know? How do you know I'm not finding what I seek? What do you know about me? Do you know my name? My occupation? My address? My job? My relationship status? If so, post them here, I give you full consent to do so.

What do you know about me and where do you get off thinking that you can make baseless assumptions about my personal life?

No, really: Answer the question.

Ahhh, I was trying to decide which hatefilled misanthropic post I was gonna comment on and it was almost impossible to do, there's simply too many to count.
1-If the doms have a problem on here, maybe, just maybe, they need to look in the mirror. Maybe they've been posting degenerate shit, have a profile full of jaded cynical misogynistic crap(Kinda like you-poster boy...and yeah, I mean exactly that, boy.), or maybe they haven't yet realized pretty much the number one rule of dating online-if you aren't the sorta guy who can get a hottie off line, you ain't gonna get one here.
2-Raises hand. I met the mouse here, all 105 pounds of her, some 7 years ago. Still kicking strong. I've also met pornstars, actresses, lawyers, doctors, kink.com models, escorts, all sorts of hotties. So yeah, it can be done. I know, I've done it. And I ain't the only one-take a gander at some posts by Stephann and Charlotte, or many others. Look at Maria, that gal is smoking. There's lots and lots of smart, beautiful, terrific gals on here, just because they don't date YOU tells us nothing about them, but speaks volumes about you. Backpedals, well shit,actually it does say something aout them. It says they have taste, sense and discretion, unfortunately the same doesn't apply in reverse.
3-Couples, yeah, I'll give you that. It's a lot tougher for them, but I think that's less to do with CM than basic human nature. Let's face it, most people, especially women want to feel special to that certain someone they love, and subs/slaves, they tend to be greedy about this. They have this utterly irrational idea that if they're gonna give their hearts, minds, bodies, trust, etc...to a a guy, they want all his attention focused on them-they don't seem to split well (At least that's my experience, but I gotta say, from what I see at the local TNG, sharing is very in vogue). And ya know what, I can undersatdn where they're coming from. Seems rational to me.
4-I've read your profile, and frankly, I can understand why a gal wouldn't want anything to do with you. You come off as insulting and derogatory, and snide as all get out.As you've brilliantly mentioned above, yeah, women can find guys a lot easier than vice versa. This applies doubly, triply, 5,000,000 times so with a hot young chica, she literally has 1/2 the site rolling through her inbox.And my man, I can tell you this, if she reads your profile, if she reads your posts, if you communicate in any way shape or form to them the way you do to us, you ain't gotta chance in hell.
And frankly, that's a terrific thing, cuz from the cheap seats where I'm sitting, you have a long way to go, not as a man, not as a dom, but as a human being before you should be in a relationship.
Everything about you smacks of angry hostile abuser. And if I think so, some poor gal whose had the sewage that is the vast majority of the male population of CM rolling through her inbox is gonna be twice as wary and 8 trillion times as quick to jettison your ass.
But hey, that's JMHO.
What the fuck do I know. Like I said, I've only interacted with slews of gals from here and owned one for an extended period of time, I'm obviously fake because I don't fit into the world your illusions/delusions have created.
My prescription is, Physician, heal thyself.


Kana, I am in love with you for this post. You really nailed it, darlin'! Honey Pie, you are my new hero!!!

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RE: Edict - 12/22/2012 8:34:44 PM   
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~fast reply~

I gotta admit, this thread is making me want to just go find some random female profile on the other side and see how hard it is to get her to agree to voice/cam. My own speculation is "not that hard". Honestly, my best guess is that actual truth and sincerity usually communicate just fine even over typed words. The OP makes it sound like it's so hard and that just doesn't seem plausible to me.

I'm ignoring Aderious. Whatever his problems are are way over my pay grade. But I'm kind of curious why the OP has such a hard time with this.

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RE: Edict - 12/22/2012 8:41:13 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: OsideGirl

I never had any problem talking to someone on the phone before we met. But, it wasn't done to prove I'm legitimate.

Someone that asked me to prove who I am before we'd even met....I wasn't interested. Basically, if you want to start off a relationship by saying I need to prove that I'm not a liar, you're not good relationship material anyway.

For the guys that stopped talking to me because I refused.....big whoop. I never had a shortage of suitors and ended up incredibly happy with an amazing guy.



Yeah, this. There's a huge difference between "hey, you seem cool! Let's talk on the phone and figure out when we can meet!" and "hey, you seem fake! Talk on the phone to prove to me that you're not a man!". The former will get you somewhere, the latter... not so much.

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RE: Edict - 12/22/2012 8:58:54 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Aderious511

The answer is: "No they're not." I have spoken to numerous other Doms and couples here. The Doms tell me, almost without exception, that they have had absolutely no luck on here. They are sitting in exactly the same boat as me, despite being all over the map in terms of age, race, background, appearance, experience, etc... The couples tell me, almost without exception, that they did NOT meet on this POS site, but elsewhere (95% of the time real life). The sub girls tell me, almost without exception, that they have never met anyone off this site and don't intend to. Even "dommes" complain that all of the young female subs on this site are flakes and it's impossible to meet them in real life.


That's because of your approach, and presumably the approach of these other people.

Let me break it down: I'm a 28-year old submissive woman, D-cup curvy, and in pretty good shape. (I work part time as a fitness instructor, FWIW.) I met my Dom on here over 4 years ago. In that time, we've met at least a dozen attractive submissive women in their 20s or 30s off this site and Fet, and slept with 4 of them (one is even bringing a friend over next week for a foursome!).

If you're failing every time, it's not this site. It's you.

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RE: Edict - 12/23/2012 3:29:31 AM   
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Well I read all the posts and here's what I got
1. You should just believe them
2. You are stupid if you can't tell the difference
3. It's ok to do
4. Everybody is fake, wich I know isn't true
5. Your calling them a liar, and can't trust anybody

Let me start by saying that a lot of people try and make themselves sound better than they really are when they are online (not all). I'm not trying to start an argument about that, but lets face it people do. Some people that's all they do, and they are good at it. I am very untrusting of people when all the communication you have with them is messages back and forth. When someone sits down to write a message they have time to think and edit and censor some of what they say. You can do the same when you talk to someone, but it is noticeable when they pause to think. Not that I don't believe anything they say. I have a few friends online that I talk to, but I'm probably never going to meet them or have them live with us, so I don't care if they are lying.
Unfortunately I live in an area that that type of life style is frowned upon, and almost dosent exist. Because of that I have to resort to the Internet to try and find someone, and just to meet someone that I find online it is usually a long drive to make it happen. I'm not in the habit of wasting my time on a no show when I have just driven two hours (has happened to me before). Not saying that that won't happen even with a face to face, but it would lessen the odds of it happening.
I can see how asking for that would offend some. Dident really think about that. It's not like I just right out ask for cam, or voice chat I exchange several messages and after we set up a meeting. I'm not being hasty about it. Maybe I should just give it more time befor setting up a meeting.


Also I apologize for the topic name lol it was like 4 in the morning at work and I have no idea what I was thinking


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