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RE: When it comes to feminism, slut shaming is bad, vir... - 1/1/2013 2:14:57 PM   
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it's about feminists being sexist.


Im a feminist... Im not sexist. Which makes your OP bullshit.

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RE: When it comes to feminism, slut shaming is bad, vir... - 1/1/2013 2:27:13 PM   
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RE: When it comes to feminism, slut shaming is bad, vir... - 1/1/2013 2:34:17 PM   
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Now they don't sit around and excoriate all men for calling them sluts, they protest against the ones who do.


But you see, what is the difference of expressing it on the streets compared to expressing it on a forum?

In both cases, you are practically doing the same thing. You are making people aware of something. That's all you are doing.

So what people do in slutwalks is not much different to what I am doing here, except that they are jumping up and down about it on the street and I am here on a forum.

So it's a hypercritical stance to criticise my position in this forum and think it's okay for what the slutwalkers are doing.

And again as you will never understand for some strange reason, what are forums for?

Just because you don't like this topic, it seems that you are telling me that I am not entitled to make this thread, therefore, you tell me that I should be doing something else rather than being on this forum. But it's all so okay for people to have any other complaint in the world on this forum. This standard of yours only applies when a male is complaining about sexism against men. Why is that?

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If you aren't going to do anything but whinge that all women who dislike what you have to say about them are feminists


Where did I ever claim that?

I am sorry for your poor comprehension skills, I am aware other people that aren't feminists do this too. But my whole point to this thread is that some feminists are laughable hypocrites how they protest against slut shaming and then have the audacity to shame a man for his sexual life. So men aren't allowed to shame women for whatever happens in their sexual life because oh no it's sexist but it's all okay for feminists to shame men for their sexual life when a man opposes feminist theories.

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Ill bet you haven't done ONE thing about the lack of male domestic violence shelters ?


We have been through this over and over and over again. There is nothing I can do. I have no money, I have no power. I am just the average powerless male. Dancing around about it on the streets isn't going to change anything. The only people responsible in doing something about it are the people with power and money. The politicians. The people who do this for a living.

Again, this is just another foolish tactic used to silence any male who simply raises the issue as it seems to threaten the poor victim status of women.

Please don't carry on and on with this for the 100000th time. Let's talk about the topic for a change which you keep running away from and wanting to shift goalposts





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RE: When it comes to feminism, slut shaming is bad, vir... - 1/1/2013 2:38:14 PM   
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RE: When it comes to feminism, slut shaming is bad, vir... - 1/1/2013 2:41:59 PM   
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you got PWNED on the topic within the first page,


LOL that's impossible as people are unwilling to challenge head on with the actual topic. They keep making diversions and trying to make it about me.

This is what you call being pwned? hahaha

Avoiding the actual point of the discussion is telling me that you are having trouble making a challenge.

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RE: When it comes to feminism, slut shaming is bad, vir... - 1/1/2013 2:45:41 PM   
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RE: When it comes to feminism, slut shaming is bad, vir... - 1/1/2013 2:47:24 PM   
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Status: offline 		The responses from people in here are sort of the same type of biased mentalities which you see from people when a woman makes a violent action towards a man such like slapping him or kicking him in the nuts, they will think "wow he must have deserved it".

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RE: When it comes to feminism, slut shaming is bad, vir... - 1/1/2013 2:49:37 PM   
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RE: When it comes to feminism, slut shaming is bad, vir... - 1/1/2013 2:59:38 PM   
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ORIGINAL: naughtynick81

The responses from people in here are sort of the same type of biased mentalities which you see from people when a woman makes a violent action towards a man such like slapping him or kicking him in the nuts, they will think "wow he must have deserved it".

yano, I hit someone in the balls once... a complete accident, he was a dear friend of mine, I felt so bad for him , that Ive never done anything but grimace when ive seen it happen...
And I am a sadist... but yanno theres a big difference between consent and non consent..
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RE: When it comes to feminism, slut shaming is bad, vir... - 1/1/2013 3:10:37 PM   
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We have been through this over and over and over again. There is nothing I can do. I have no money, I have no power. I am just the average powerless male. Dancing around about it on the streets isn't going to change anything. The only people responsible in doing something about it are the people with power and money. The politicians. The people who do this for a living.




Nick, SOME women are sexists. SOME men are misogynists. The problem is not seeing the trees for the forest.

What I've quoted above makes me realize why you can't see exceptions. Can you admit not everyone who considers him/herself a feminist is not sexist?

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RE: When it comes to feminism, slut shaming is bad, vir... - 1/1/2013 3:14:26 PM   
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The only people responsible in doing something about it are the people with power and money.


Sound familiar Ladies?

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RE: When it comes to feminism, slut shaming is bad, vir... - 1/1/2013 3:36:10 PM   
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RE: When it comes to feminism, slut shaming is bad, vir... - 1/1/2013 3:55:59 PM   
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This is a very popular phrase used within the feminist movement. It's used as sarcasm when a male issue is raised. In other words, they are admitting that they don't get a flying fuck about men. At least some feminists are honest.


Please cite your source as I'm skeptical that you have any idea how the average feminist thinks.


I'm still waiting. Please demonstrate that is a very popular phrase and that it's commonly used the way you are claiming.

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RE: When it comes to feminism, slut shaming is bad, vir... - 1/1/2013 4:00:40 PM   
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LOL that's impossible as people are unwilling to challenge head on with the actual topic.

Wrong, I did that pages ago, you ignored me.

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But my point is that a lot of the time when a male get's in a debate with feminists or just simply expresses what he disagrees with in regards of feminism, many feminists will be quick to use the "you can't get laid" card. But on the other hand, they are dead against "slut shaming" as it's trying to intimidate a woman by using her sex life against her.

So why is it that slut shaming is a no no but virgin shaming is all so great and acceptable? Could it be solely because...

I don't think that's the issue. I think whether or not it's socially ok depends on whether or not it's a valid criticism. Brittney Spears and Lindsay Lohan (to name a couple) have undergone quite a bit of slut shaming without many standing up for them.

However, when it came to Sandra Fluke there was an overwhelming outcry against the ad hominem because her only actual sin was to point out a reality that's inconvenient for the religious right.



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RE: When it comes to feminism, slut shaming is bad, vir... - 1/1/2013 4:18:51 PM   
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Nick, not all feminists are sexist.



If they're not sexist, they can't be feminists. Or, at least, that's how so many of the loudest anti-feminists around us seem tirelessly to insist that we use the word these days.

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RE: When it comes to feminism, slut shaming is bad, vir... - 1/1/2013 4:29:23 PM   
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Status: offline 		So I am supposed to listen to some 20 something year old wet behind the ears female tell me about something I witnessed in this country as a child and grew up with the beliefs instilled by the very outspoken women in my family?

There are many forms of feminism.

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RE: When it comes to feminism, slut shaming is bad, vir... - 1/1/2013 5:03:55 PM   
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RE: When it comes to feminism, slut shaming is bad, vir... - 1/1/2013 5:05:54 PM   
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Can you admit not everyone who considers him/herself a feminist is not sexist?


Now this card is being put to the table lol. Where did I ever say ALL feminist do x or y?

Just take one look at my OP. Read this carefully.

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But my point is that a lot of the time when a male get's in a debate with feminists or just simply expresses what he disagrees with in regards of feminism, many feminists will be quick to use the "you can't get laid" card. But on the other hand, they are dead against "slut shaming" as it's trying to intimidate a woman by using her sex life against her.


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I'm still waiting. Please demonstrate that is a very popular phrase and that it's commonly used the way you are claiming.


Do a google search with "what about teh menz" and include the word feminism. It's all there for you to see.

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Wrong, I did that pages ago, you ignored me.


So this was your answer...

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I don't think that's the issue. I think whether or not it's socially ok depends on whether or not it's a valid criticism. Brittney Spears and Lindsay Lohan (to name a couple) have undergone quite a bit of slut shaming without many standing up for them.

However, when it came to Sandra Fluke there was an overwhelming outcry against the ad hominem because her only actual sin was to point out a reality that's inconvenient for the religious right.


My point is about feminism, not society in general.

Why am I making this point and only directing it at feminism? Because feminism is a movement that always protest against sexism. They are the biggest complainers in the world when it comes to sexism. A part of the movement is supposed to be against slut shaming or in other words shaming a person about their sexual life. Yet, people who are a part of this movement and cause, break their own rules. They are being inconsistent. This makes them look like hypocritical idiots.





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RE: When it comes to feminism, slut shaming is bad, vir... - 1/1/2013 5:15:01 PM   
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Status: offline 		Do all assholes believe in the same things, do all misandrist hate ONE type of man or several types, do they all follow the exact same rules???? please show me proof.....do all chauvinists have the same levels of chauvinism, do all misogynists hate women with the same intensity, do all catholics practice the same, do all muslims practice and believe exactly the same? All jews are hassidic/orthadox/? why on earth do you expect all women, or all feminists, or all americans or ANYONE who believes in a HUGE encompassing label all march to the same step. I dont think many men think like you at all..I know they dont.

Why are you trying to suggest all or even many feminists do?
its YOUR issue.its up to you to deal with it,

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RE: When it comes to feminism, slut shaming is bad, vir... - 1/1/2013 5:17:58 PM   
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How many feminists are against slut shaming as for female sexual liberation? If not all, I would have to say the vast majority.

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