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RE: Sorry, the truth is not a defense to personal attacks. - 1/4/2013 4:05:06 PM   
littlewonder


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RE: Sorry, the truth is not a defense to personal attacks. - 1/4/2013 4:06:35 PM   
Kaliko


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ORIGINAL: VideoAdminChi


I'm not familiar with your particular case, but the majority of the time it's not "the assholes" who report posts calling them assholes, but other posters. I can't speak to these poster's motivation, but when I used to report posts of Poster A calling Poster B an asshole, my motivation was due to a preference for civil discourse.




I don't understand that at all. If Poster B doesn't have a problem with what Poster A says to him, what business would it be of anyone else's? If I am Poster B, I certainly don't need another forum member to save me from my own conversation with somebody.

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RE: Sorry, the truth is not a defense to personal attacks. - 1/4/2013 4:10:30 PM   
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RE: Sorry, the truth is not a defense to personal attacks. - 1/4/2013 4:15:08 PM   
SpiritedRadiance


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ORIGINAL: Marini

I personally don't have a dog in this fight, because I don't have an "issue" with moderation/the way this site is being moderated/nor the owners these days.

I want to ask you/and anyone else in collarme "angst" these days,

What do you want done about the moderation {problems} you speak of?

What are you trying to accomplish?

I am fairly sure those that need to know are aware of how you feel, is there something you want done?

IF NOTHING is done, than ----> Is there some sort of time limit, or will you be here 6 months from now/next year/4 years from now/i.e. FOREVER/ typing the same sorts of things?

Thanks in advance




I said damn I have better things to do with my time then argue with some cunts about their inability to be fair and not be a cunt because they couldnt keep their hardons or clitons for certain posters to themselves, and left except for rare occasions i no longer even venture over to this side and contribute my input where its liked appreciated and wanted..

And i dont have to deal with cunts...

Ive been here since 2005 under this name and one other, and had a total of one gold letter...... until this year where i got 15 in the span of few months, with no changes in my posting...

Yeah..

Hey.. that had no you either therefor isnt a personal attack...

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RE: Sorry, the truth is not a defense to personal attacks. - 1/4/2013 4:18:30 PM   
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RE: Sorry, the truth is not a defense to personal attacks. - 1/4/2013 6:47:04 PM   
TheHeretic


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ORIGINAL: Politesub53


quote:

ORIGINAL: TheHeretic

I could pull a few shifts in P&R, if people might prefer that.



Great......cant beat self moderation Rich.......



Yeah. If only if it weren't for all those folks who hold differing opinions, the forums would be so much nicer for those who like singing Kumbaya and jerking off by the numbers. At least until, with all the Romans gone, the People's Front of Judea started going after the Judean People's Front.

I'm honestly glad that there is no way, no how, that VAA would hand me an official CollarChat Baseball Bat of The Mods to swing down there. I don't have the time, and don't need the aggravation, and I can guarantee that, at least once in a while, I'd be doing it with a buzz on.

It would be different, though.

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RE: Sorry, the truth is not a defense to personal attacks. - 1/4/2013 6:53:59 PM   
jlf1961


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ORIGINAL: TheHeretic


quote:

ORIGINAL: Politesub53


quote:

ORIGINAL: TheHeretic

I could pull a few shifts in P&R, if people might prefer that.



Great......cant beat self moderation Rich.......



Yeah. If only if it weren't for all those folks who hold differing opinions, the forums would be so much nicer for those who like singing Kumbaya and jerking off by the numbers. At least until, with all the Romans gone, the People's Front of Judea started going after the Judean People's Front.

I'm honestly glad that there is no way, no how, that VAA would hand me an official CollarChat Baseball Bat of The Mods to swing down there. I don't have the time, and don't need the aggravation, and I can guarantee that, at least once in a while, I'd be doing it with a buzz on.

It would be different, though.



Now Heretic, I am quite sure you would be impartial, fair, and deal with individuals with equal dedication.

However, should you actually become a mod, do me a favor and send me your rates on impartiality. If done correctly, bribes do not have to be declared on tax returns.

FYI, I have two cousins, one owns a liquor distributorship and one took over his grand father's hobby. This means that the second cousin has, at his disposal, aged mountain whiskey that has been distilled according to the old ways passed on from father to son since my family arrived from Ireland and settled in the mountains of Western North Carolina.

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RE: Sorry, the truth is not a defense to personal attacks. - 1/4/2013 7:31:04 PM   
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ORIGINAL: jlf1961


quote:

ORIGINAL: TheHeretic


quote:

ORIGINAL: Politesub53


quote:

ORIGINAL: TheHeretic

I could pull a few shifts in P&R, if people might prefer that.



Great......cant beat self moderation Rich.......



Yeah. If only if it weren't for all those folks who hold differing opinions, the forums would be so much nicer for those who like singing Kumbaya and jerking off by the numbers. At least until, with all the Romans gone, the People's Front of Judea started going after the Judean People's Front.

I'm honestly glad that there is no way, no how, that VAA would hand me an official CollarChat Baseball Bat of The Mods to swing down there. I don't have the time, and don't need the aggravation, and I can guarantee that, at least once in a while, I'd be doing it with a buzz on.

It would be different, though.



Now Heretic, I am quite sure you would be impartial, fair, and deal with individuals with equal dedication.

However, should you actually become a mod, do me a favor and send me your rates on impartiality. If done correctly, bribes do not have to be declared on tax returns.

FYI, I have two cousins, one owns a liquor distributorship and one took over his grand father's hobby. This means that the second cousin has, at his disposal, aged mountain whiskey that has been distilled according to the old ways passed on from father to son since my family arrived from Ireland and settled in the mountains of Western North Carolina.


O.O wow... that'll be good whiskey...

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RE: Sorry, the truth is not a defense to personal attacks. - 1/4/2013 7:34:31 PM   
Lilly425


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ORIGINAL: ChatteParfaitt

I am extremely offended by the short comments. People should use the term 'vertically challenged.'


I prefer to think of myself as 'fun sized'! :)

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RE: Sorry, the truth is not a defense to personal attacks. - 1/4/2013 7:35:33 PM   
Powergamz1


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Status: offline 		I would guess that maybe some people would actually like to have a discussion without having to scroll though dozens of name calling/derailing posts that build up in ever larger and more garish fonts, and nests of re-re-re-quotes?

It seems likely that for some people, preventing such discussions is their internet game ala WoW.


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ORIGINAL: Kaliko


quote:

ORIGINAL: VideoAdminChi


I'm not familiar with your particular case, but the majority of the time it's not "the assholes" who report posts calling them assholes, but other posters. I can't speak to these poster's motivation, but when I used to report posts of Poster A calling Poster B an asshole, my motivation was due to a preference for civil discourse.




I don't understand that at all. If Poster B doesn't have a problem with what Poster A says to him, what business would it be of anyone else's? If I am Poster B, I certainly don't need another forum member to save me from my own conversation with somebody.



< Message edited by Powergamz1 -- 1/4/2013 7:37:15 PM >

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RE: Sorry, the truth is not a defense to personal attacks. - 1/4/2013 9:23:40 PM   
DesFIP


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Status: offline 		Haven't read all the pages. I also got a gold email, although they're really more yellow than gold on my monitor.

What I was told was that the op had not asked for any home truths or advise. Therefore my rather harsh comments were unacceptable.

Had the op been foolish enough to ask what we thought of him, then it would have been fair game within known limits. I think it was a he, since the thread's gone I can't check.

And yes, he carefully didn't ask which made it inappropriate for me to shoot with both barrels. It was still worth it and worth the email in that case.

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RE: Sorry, the truth is not a defense to personal attacks. - 1/4/2013 10:46:19 PM   
tazzygirl


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Status: offline 		I get gold mail. I got 2 weeks time out once. Well deserved. It even went over the two weeks by a few days.... not complaining, after that post, I deserved that extra time too... lol

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RE: Sorry, the truth is not a defense to personal attacks. - 1/4/2013 10:53:43 PM   
jlf1961


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Status: offline 		The only problem I can see with the mods on this site is that they seem to be unbribable. They also do not provide much help, such as giving one the winning lotto numbers for the mega millions or power ball the day before the drawings.

Other than that they seem to have a good sense of humor, above average intelligence, even if they wont let me put a pic of my great nephew in my photos.

I mean, considering that he and I share some of the same genetic material, he seems to have not gotten any of the "ugly beyond description" genes that normally are gained by males in my family.

He is a cute little guy with ten teeth at age 11 months, and is long enough to wear 18 month clothes which are almost too short for him.

Unfortunately, his mother will not let me feed him jalapeno pepper laced chili or jalapeno, onion cheese corn bread or smoked oysters.

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RE: Sorry, the truth is not a defense to personal attacks. - 1/5/2013 11:09:17 AM   
Toppingfrmbottom


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Status: offline 		Other than being hateful, what purpose does it serve to tell someone who's short that their short, or super fat that damn that's fat. it's not like they didn't know already, and by telling them you're doing them some great service, and it does nothing to further the thread.


Comments that serve no furthering purpose like that, yes, they're the truth but like I said unless you were trying to be hateful, what's the point/


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ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam

The title of the thread is the first sentence of a Gold Email I got recently.

The thread I mentioned it in has now been pulled

The fucking TRUTH is not a defense?

This is on a kink site that stresses TRUTH.
Are we going to modded for saying "Damn dude, you're short" to a guy who is 5'2? It's the fucking TRUTH
If a woman says she weighs 425, will someone get a Gold Letter for saying "Dayum, that's fat"? It's the fucking TRUTH

This kindergarten bullshit and catering to whiny bitches is the point of the thread and you fucking DELETED IT.

Go ahead Mods, fucking delete this one too. I EXPECT NOTHING LESS



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RE: Sorry, the truth is not a defense to personal attacks. - 1/5/2013 11:58:02 AM   
littlewonder


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allowing everything and anything and watching the fallout with glee and seeing who's left to withstand all the crap, arguments, stupid stuff, etc....last man standing.

or ban every person who complains about anything whatsoever and no going back and re-evaluating, no arguments, no responses, no nothing....you're banned...end of story.



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RE: Sorry, the truth is not a defense to personal attacks. - 1/5/2013 12:13:17 PM   
TheHeretic


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ORIGINAL: VideoAdminChi

If I think a thread might end up needing moderation, I don't post in it under my other nick, which pretty much rules out posting in P&R, so Rich would indeed be self-moderating




And there is a damn good indicator of the problems that are causing threads like this to get started, Chi. The only way you get to express yourself on the topic is in how you apply your authority.

It's totally inconsistent, in how the "rules," get applied. I place quotes on, "rules," because they only seem to apply when the right, or wrong, posters brush up against them, and not matter a bit, when others stomp across. Either we can all tell annoying little stalkers to go fuck themselves, or none of us can. I prefer the former.




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RE: Sorry, the truth is not a defense to personal attacks. - 1/5/2013 12:25:46 PM   
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ORIGINAL: TheHeretic
It's totally inconsistent, in how the "rules," get applied.


Prove it.

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RE: Sorry, the truth is not a defense to personal attacks. - 1/5/2013 12:35:29 PM   
VideoAdminChi


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Status: offline 		I'd give credence to complaints of favoritism if there were examples of how Poster B created a ticket because Poster A said "you are stupid" and I thanked Poster B for his report and did nothing but later sent Poster B a gold letter when he subsequently said to Poster A "you are stupid."

(I'm throwing the "created a ticket" clause in there because we don't read every post, so the mere existence of a post is not an indicator of favoritism.)

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RE: Sorry, the truth is not a defense to personal attacks. - 1/5/2013 1:16:20 PM   
Kaliko


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ORIGINAL: Powergamz1

I would guess that maybe some people would actually like to have a discussion without having to scroll though dozens of name calling/derailing posts that build up in ever larger and more garish fonts, and nests of re-re-re-quotes?



Now hold on just a sec, there. Calling people names and derailing threads is one thing. But allowing for giant, garish fonts? Uh uh. No way. That's just crazy talk.


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RE: Sorry, the truth is not a defense to personal attacks. - 1/5/2013 1:29:08 PM   
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The only problem I can see with the mods on this site is that they seem to be unbribable.


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