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tazzygirl -> Piers or Alex Jones... (1/8/2013 2:01:44 PM)
which would you keep? http://www.upworthy.com/angry-gun-advocate-loses-it-live-on-cnn-in-the-most-bizarre-interview-ever

meatcleaver -> RE: Piers or Alex Jones... (1/8/2013 2:26:56 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: tazzygirl which would you keep? http://www.upworthy.com/angry-gun-advocate-loses-it-live-on-cnn-in-the-most-bizarre-interview-ever And that idiot is allowed to own guns!

Lucylastic -> RE: Piers or Alex Jones... (1/8/2013 2:29:06 PM)
someone needs a deep psych evaluation. and it aint piers

Aylee -> RE: Piers or Alex Jones... (1/8/2013 3:01:54 PM)
Neither.

lovmuffin -> RE: Piers or Alex Jones... (1/8/2013 4:29:57 PM)
That was painful to watch but I've seen 2 other debates on his show where Pierce was fanatically talking over his pro gun guests. I have an even better one though I'll post link to when I get on the computer.

FatAndSassyMaam -> RE: Piers or Alex Jones... (1/8/2013 4:33:27 PM)
If those two are the faces of the debate over second amendment rights/gun control, god helps us all. And I'm agnostic.

Owner59 -> RE: Piers or Alex Jones... (1/8/2013 6:33:56 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: FatAndSassyMaam If those two are the faces of the debate over second amendment rights/gun control, god helps us all. And I'm agnostic. Considering the NRA is currently pushing for the legalization of gun-silencers, in the wake of this latest mass murder,calling Alex Jones the face of that side of the debate would be true. Never heard of Morgan before the petition to have him deported came to light.

DesideriScuri -> RE: Piers or Alex Jones... (1/8/2013 6:42:41 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: tazzygirl which would you keep? http://www.upworthy.com/angry-gun-advocate-loses-it-live-on-cnn-in-the-most-bizarre-interview-ever Cage match. To the death. The winner gets deported. Problems solved.

lovmuffin -> RE: Piers or Alex Jones... (1/8/2013 9:20:19 PM)
This guy is seemingly a might crazy too. You've seen him before and I'm sure you'll see him again before this debate is over. He's far more polite yet seems to put Piers in his place. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JkzZ-GoEC54

lovmuffin -> RE: Piers or Alex Jones... (1/8/2013 9:40:03 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Owner59 quote: ORIGINAL: FatAndSassyMaam If those two are the faces of the debate over second amendment rights/gun control, god helps us all. And I'm agnostic. Considering the NRA is currently pushing for the legalization of gun-silencers, in the wake of this latest mass murder,calling Alex Jones the face of that side of the debate would be true. Never heard of Morgan before the petition to have him deported came to light. Silencers ?? Where did you hear this ?

LizDeluxe -> RE: Piers or Alex Jones... (1/8/2013 10:02:47 PM)
Morgan hasn't been all that civil on the air in the course of his gun control crusade. I'd be happy if we dumped them both. ETA: Silencers are legal in 39 states if you jump through the proper ATF hoops.

lovmuffin -> RE: Piers or Alex Jones... (1/8/2013 10:30:19 PM)
Dump Ted Nugent did you mean ? I'd rather keep him around. I knew you could own silencers with all the right paperwork. I'm curious to know what Owner is talking about. His post implied something other than jumping through hoops and the laws already in place.

meatcleaver -> RE: Piers or Alex Jones... (1/9/2013 12:40:05 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: lovmuffin This guy is seemingly a might crazy too. You've seen him before and I'm sure you'll see him again before this debate is over. He's far more polite yet seems to put Piers in his place. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JkzZ-GoEC54 I don't like Piers Morgan but he isn't put in his place here, Nugent looks and acts psychotic and any reasonable person would be thinking why is he allowed to have guns! One thing that comes across from gun advocates is their deep seated paranoia. They just don't come across as mentally healthy or stable people. That goes for the idiot who said 'Out of my dead hands' too.

Fellow -> RE: Piers or Alex Jones... (1/9/2013 12:49:33 AM)
I think Alex Jones performance was brilliant. At first, Mr. Morgan was not there to debate Alex Jones. He planned to set Alex up and advance the government agenda he represents. It was obvious. The plan was to show Alex Jones in bad light and then to bring up these two other idiot monkeys ("experts", who came later) to advance in summary the gun confiscation agenda. Alex Jones understood what it was about, he took charge and he presented all his major points. Most importantly: the second amendment is not about hunting, guns do not kill people, the governments are historically the biggest killers, all recent mass killings included mind altering prescription drugs, the current and previous US governments are involved in criminal activity (9/11, illegal wars, illegal civil rights violations etc.). Mr. P. Morgan looked like a fool. He totally under-estimated Alex Jones.

meatcleaver -> RE: Piers or Alex Jones... (1/9/2013 12:56:24 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Fellow Mr. P. Morgan looked like a fool. He totally under-estimated Alex Jones. I suspect this has more to do with your views than any objective analysis of the debate or lack of debate as the case was here.

joether -> RE: Piers or Alex Jones... (1/9/2013 1:37:39 AM)
Mr. Morgan seemed reasonable and Mr. Jones was much like a lunatic at some points. Its not that Mr. Jones was a raving, foam-at-the-mouth, flailing arms madly, lunatic. Just his material was so outlandish that it was hard to take the man serious. I'm more likely able to reason with Mr. Morgan; even making a compromise if it came to it. Mr. Jones seems like the type that demands to be the tyrant and hold little room to be reasoned.

lovmuffin -> RE: Piers or Alex Jones... (1/9/2013 2:33:29 AM)
Nothing reasonable about restricting semi automatics aside from checking backgrounds. What compramusex are you refering to ? But yes Jones came off as a bit nutty. At least he didn't allow himself to fall into the set up.

lovmuffin -> RE: Piers or Alex Jones... (1/9/2013 2:39:24 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: meatcleaver quote: ORIGINAL: lovmuffin This guy is seemingly a might crazy too. You've seen him before and I'm sure you'll see him again before this debate is over. He's far more polite yet seems to put Piers in his place. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JkzZ-GoEC54 I don't like Piers Morgan but he isn't put in his place here, Nugent looks and acts psychotic and any reasonable person would be thinking why is he allowed to have guns! One thing that comes across from gun advocates is their deep seated paranoia. They just don't come across as mentally healthy or stable people. That goes for the idiot who said 'Out of my dead hands' too. I would think you exaggerate when you say Nugent acts psychotic, I would say maybe a bit eccentric. Nugent made excellent points and delivered them well without coming off like a rude asshole. I've seen Piers act like a rude asshole though.

meatcleaver -> RE: Piers or Alex Jones... (1/9/2013 3:51:07 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: lovmuffin quote: ORIGINAL: meatcleaver quote: ORIGINAL: lovmuffin This guy is seemingly a might crazy too. You've seen him before and I'm sure you'll see him again before this debate is over. He's far more polite yet seems to put Piers in his place. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JkzZ-GoEC54 I don't like Piers Morgan but he isn't put in his place here, Nugent looks and acts psychotic and any reasonable person would be thinking why is he allowed to have guns! One thing that comes across from gun advocates is their deep seated paranoia. They just don't come across as mentally healthy or stable people. That goes for the idiot who said 'Out of my dead hands' too. Nugent made excellent points and delivered them well without coming off like a rude asshole. I've seen Piers act like a rude asshole though. Nugent made the same old paranoia points of the NRA and the same tactic as is usual amongst the gun lobby, shout the loudest and don't let the other person have a say.

Lucylastic -> RE: Piers or Alex Jones... (1/9/2013 3:57:27 AM)
http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=7407452n http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=06XVt6zEr9E http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=QjBdRHQnEYg http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SZCxArSFRcw yeah hes the pinnacle of sense and calm

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