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BamaD -> RE: Piers or Alex Jones... (1/11/2013 12:56:24 PM)
Face it the reason for the decrease in crime rates isn't gun control it isn't the banning of lead paint etc and it sure isn't more abortions if it were any of those it would not explain the crime spike in the 70s if it were paint and abortions there would not have been a spike because crime would have allready been at astronomical levels what does correspond to the spike is that the baby boomers were entering the age group that committs the most crime if you pay attention to the crime rates the peaked as my generation hit these ages and dropped as we got older this , to anyone with the least amount of analytic ability is far and away the best explination the window for gun grabbers is closing as the excuse diminishes

tazzygirl -> RE: Piers or Alex Jones... (1/11/2013 1:03:05 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: BamaD quote: ORIGINAL: tazzygirl quote: I was asked for a statement showing anyone in authority favored widespread gun confiscation but didn't think they would be stupid enough to actually say it Ckeck thisbluemarble.com eric holder on gun control No, you were asked to show where the total banning bills are. You have yet to show one. That is what is meant by... its not on the table... there are no laws being proposed to ban ALL guns. no I was asked to show were anyone want to ban all guns God I wish you could read God, I wish you could comprehend. quote: Sheesh, civil war isn't called for until they start actually collecting all rifles, which- to use tazzygirl's words- isn't on the table. You.... quote: I accept that those who have denied wanting all guns confiscated mean it but when the white house uses the Brady group to form their policy you have to realize that a total gunban is being discussed and that if and when the "assault weapons" ban doesn't work it will immeadiatly hit the table Lucy... quote: Please source that statement regarding a total ban being discussed, or suggested that it will hit the table You... quote: check handgun controls website, you will have to, when they talk specifics see that this is thier goal Of course they are not including this in thier press releases that would alienate people like you Lucy... quote: Im asking for a direct link Bama, to direct information not someone who "thinks it MIGHT" come up. You... quote: you mean that you want me to link you to someone who has said we are going to ban all firearms now or we do this now and in two years we ban another bunch and then another till we have them all? how stupid do you think these people are? Lucy... quote: LMAO I thought it was a simple enough question so you have nothing, beyond perhaps , maybe's or ifs.... thankyou, And you STILL have nothing concrete showing banning all guns are on the table of any talks involving the White House. Thats the proof you were asked for. Thats what you cannot provide.

lovmuffin -> RE: Piers or Alex Jones... (1/11/2013 1:30:51 PM)
Tazzy, there are no blanket gun bans written into any of the current legislation being proposed. However it's been stated before by extremists on left that "no one other than the police or military need guns" "ban them all" "it's a first step" "it's a start". What are we supposed to infer from that ? If the gun banners had their wish, all we could own would be registered muzzle loaders. The notion that a ban on military looking semi autos or common full size magazines for long guns or handguns would in any way mitigate gun crime or mass murder is illogical, about as enforceable as drug laws and altogether stupid on its face.

BamaD -> RE: Piers or Alex Jones... (1/11/2013 1:36:20 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: tazzygirl quote: ORIGINAL: BamaD quote: ORIGINAL: tazzygirl quote: I was asked for a statement showing anyone in authority favored widespread gun confiscation but didn't think they would be stupid enough to actually say it Ckeck thisbluemarble.com eric holder on gun control No, you were asked to show where the total banning bills are. You have yet to show one. That is what is meant by... its not on the table... there are no laws being proposed to ban ALL guns. no I was asked to show were anyone want to ban all guns God I wish you could read God, I wish you could comprehend. quote: Sheesh, civil war isn't called for until they start actually collecting all rifles, which- to use tazzygirl's words- isn't on the table. You.... quote: I accept that those who have denied wanting all guns confiscated mean it but when the white house uses the Brady group to form their policy you have to realize that a total gunban is being discussed and that if and when the "assault weapons" ban doesn't work it will immeadiatly hit the table Lucy... quote: Please source that statement regarding a total ban being discussed, or suggested that it will hit the table You... quote: check handgun controls website, you will have to, when they talk specifics see that this is thier goal Of course they are not including this in thier press releases that would alienate people like you Lucy... quote: Im asking for a direct link Bama, to direct information not someone who "thinks it MIGHT" come up. You... quote: you mean that you want me to link you to someone who has said we are going to ban all firearms now or we do this now and in two years we ban another bunch and then another till we have them all? how stupid do you think these people are? Lucy... quote: LMAO I thought it was a simple enough question so you have nothing, beyond perhaps , maybe's or ifs.... thankyou, And you STILL have nothing concrete showing banning all guns are on the table of any talks involving the White House. Thats the proof you were asked for. Thats what you cannot provide. it takes two active brain cells to know that the brady bunch wants any more an it would be obvious sorry but I was not at the meeting so I cannot quote what was said you are honestly going to tell me that the brady bunch doesn't want total firearms confiscation funny how you change the subject every time you blindly walk into it

BamaD -> RE: Piers or Alex Jones... (1/11/2013 1:40:31 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: lovmuffin Tazzy, there are no blanket gun bans written into any of the current legislation being proposed. However it's been stated before by extremists on left that "no one other than the police or military need guns" "ban them all" "it's a first step" "it's a start". What are we supposed to infer from that ? If the gun banners had their wish, all we could own would be registered muzzle loaders. The notion that a ban on military looking semi autos or common full size magazines for long guns or handguns would in any way mitigate gun crime or mass murder is illogical, about as enforceable as drug laws and altogether stupid on its face. finnaly someone who hasn't fallen prey to Holders call for brainwashing

tazzygirl -> RE: Piers or Alex Jones... (1/11/2013 2:13:24 PM)
quote: Tazzy, there are no blanket gun bans written into any of the current legislation being proposed. However it's been stated before by extremists on left that "no one other than the police or military need guns" "ban them all" "it's a first step" "it's a start". What are we supposed to infer from that ? If the gun banners had their wish, all we could own would be registered muzzle loaders. The notion that a ban on military looking semi autos or common full size magazines for long guns or handguns would in any way mitigate gun crime or mass murder is illogical, about as enforceable as drug laws and altogether stupid on its face. That they are just that.. extremists who are not being listened too. Unless I am mistaken, only a select few will be allowed to own many of these weapons.. and they will have to be registered.... correct? If yes, then I also recall this is the situation for fully automatic guns.. only a select few can own them. Have they started rounding those up? How would the Feinstein bill be any different?

lovmuffin -> RE: Piers or Alex Jones... (1/11/2013 2:33:11 PM)
Yes, I believe registration is correct and I doubt that part of the legislation would pass. I'm not so sure any of it regarding semi autos or magazine bans can get through the house. The machine gun registration scheme started back in 1936 at a time where there were not overwhelming numbers of them in private hands such as semi autos are today. I can't speak too much to that as I don't know enough about the 1936 legislation but if the government ever wanted to round them up they sure would know where to go and get em. I will add that there are a crap load of them out there that are not registered. The 1986 legislation priced most people out of the legal market.

tazzygirl -> RE: Piers or Alex Jones... (1/11/2013 2:34:14 PM)
quote: but if the government ever wanted to round them up they sure would know where to go and get em. But, according to many, that is exactly what the government wants to do. So, whats stopping them?

Yachtie -> RE: Piers or Alex Jones... (1/11/2013 2:37:57 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: tazzygirl quote: but if the government ever wanted to round them up they sure would know where to go and get em. But, according to many, that is exactly what the government wants to do. So, whats stopping them? NRA, GOA, JPFO...[:D]

DesideriScuri -> RE: Piers or Alex Jones... (1/11/2013 2:44:31 PM)
FR, Heard on the radio today, in response to why a private Citizen would want a hi-cap magazine for a gun: "For the same reason the cops on the street have hi-cap magazines for theirs."

tazzygirl -> RE: Piers or Alex Jones... (1/11/2013 2:51:57 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Yachtie quote: ORIGINAL: tazzygirl quote: but if the government ever wanted to round them up they sure would know where to go and get em. But, according to many, that is exactly what the government wants to do. So, whats stopping them? NRA, GOA, JPFO...[:D] If the government wanted them, surely, according to many of you, even those organizations wouldnt stop them. So, again, what is preventing the government from rounding them up?

BamaD -> RE: Piers or Alex Jones... (1/11/2013 2:54:08 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: tazzygirl quote: ORIGINAL: BamaD quote: ORIGINAL: tazzygirl quote: I was asked for a statement showing anyone in authority favored widespread gun confiscation but didn't think they would be stupid enough to actually say it Ckeck thisbluemarble.com eric holder on gun control No, you were asked to show where the total banning bills are. You have yet to show one. That is what is meant by... its not on the table... there are no laws being proposed to ban ALL guns. no I was asked to show were anyone want to ban all guns God I wish you could read God, I wish you could comprehend. quote: Sheesh, civil war isn't called for until they start actually collecting all rifles, which- to use tazzygirl's words- isn't on the table. You.... quote: I accept that those who have denied wanting all guns confiscated mean it but when the white house uses the Brady group to form their policy you have to realize that a total gunban is being discussed and that if and when the "assault weapons" ban doesn't work it will immeadiatly hit the table Lucy... quote: Please source that statement regarding a total ban being discussed, or suggested that it will hit the table You... quote: check handgun controls website, you will have to, when they talk specifics see that this is thier goal Of course they are not including this in thier press releases that would alienate people like you Lucy... quote: Im asking for a direct link Bama, to direct information not someone who "thinks it MIGHT" come up. You... quote: you mean that you want me to link you to someone who has said we are going to ban all firearms now or we do this now and in two years we ban another bunch and then another till we have them all? how stupid do you think these people are? Lucy... quote: LMAO I thought it was a simple enough question so you have nothing, beyond perhaps , maybe's or ifs.... thankyou, And you STILL have nothing concrete showing banning all guns are on the table of any talks involving the White House. Thats the proof you were asked for. Thats what you cannot provide. in your own requote you will see that L said confiscation will come up when THIS BAN DOESN'T PUT AND END TO CRIME that means any request to prove anyone put it on the table for now needs to improve their comprehension

BamaD -> RE: Piers or Alex Jones... (1/11/2013 2:56:02 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: tazzygirl quote: but if the government ever wanted to round them up they sure would know where to go and get em. But, according to many, that is exactly what the government wants to do. So, whats stopping them? ca and ny used registration of guns that look like assault weapons for exactly that purpose

Yachtie -> RE: Piers or Alex Jones... (1/11/2013 2:56:11 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: tazzygirl quote: ORIGINAL: Yachtie quote: ORIGINAL: tazzygirl quote: but if the government ever wanted to round them up they sure would know where to go and get em. But, according to many, that is exactly what the government wants to do. So, whats stopping them? NRA, GOA, JPFO...[:D] If the government wanted them, surely, according to many of you, even those organizations wouldnt stop them. So, again, what is preventing the government from rounding them up? The beauty of the second amendment is that it will not be needed until they try to take it. - Attributed to T. Jefferson Really Tazzy, even you should be able to understand the dynamics involved.

BamaD -> RE: Piers or Alex Jones... (1/11/2013 2:57:04 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: tazzygirl quote: ORIGINAL: Yachtie quote: ORIGINAL: tazzygirl quote: but if the government ever wanted to round them up they sure would know where to go and get em. But, according to many, that is exactly what the government wants to do. So, whats stopping them? NRA, GOA, JPFO...[:D] If the government wanted them, surely, according to many of you, even those organizations wouldnt stop them. So, again, what is preventing the government from rounding them up? when this fails what will you say to banning repeaters?

tazzygirl -> RE: Piers or Alex Jones... (1/11/2013 2:57:19 PM)
What the fuck are you yammering on about now???

tazzygirl -> RE: Piers or Alex Jones... (1/11/2013 2:59:02 PM)
quote: The beauty of the second amendment is that it will not be needed until they try to take it. - Attributed to T. Jefferson Has anyone tried to ban all weapons?

BamaD -> RE: Piers or Alex Jones... (1/11/2013 3:00:19 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: tazzygirl What the fuck are you yammering on about now??? when the guns that look like assault weapons ban fails once again to make a dent in crime what will you day to the proposition that all repeaters must be banned pay attention it whould have been obvious what I meant

tazzygirl -> RE: Piers or Alex Jones... (1/11/2013 3:00:21 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: BamaD quote: ORIGINAL: tazzygirl quote: but if the government ever wanted to round them up they sure would know where to go and get em. But, according to many, that is exactly what the government wants to do. So, whats stopping them? ca and ny used registration of guns that look like assault weapons for exactly that purpose Links.. Im way past taking your word for anything

Yachtie -> RE: Piers or Alex Jones... (1/11/2013 3:00:33 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: tazzygirl quote: The beauty of the second amendment is that it will not be needed until they try to take it. - Attributed to T. Jefferson Has anyone tried to ban all weapons? It's implicit in the scheme. You really are not up to this.

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