dcnovice
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Oh my. You managed to flunk an open-book exam. quote:
You are the one who came up with the " 'only' 4% of clergy has been implicated in Child rape" ONLY 4% of them were molesting Children Not exactly. As I said in Post 76, the statistics came (via one of Tazzy's posts) from the John Jay College of Criminal Justice. I did calculate the percentage myself and claim no infallibility for my math. quote:
Damn, I'm relieved it was ONLY a few thousand actively participating in RAPE of children In the same post, I point-blank said, "Now obviously, any percent of abusers is too high." Perhaps you overlooked that? So much for my taking the trouble to add the i tags. quote:
What percentage Actively participated but wasn't caught yet? What percentage knew what was happening and turned a blind eye? I don't know, which is why I didn't wade into those waters. quote:
The head of The Church (Yaknow, that guy in Rome who wears white clothes and the big pointy hat and sits in judgement of the whole human race, speaks directly to God and all that stuff according to the faithful) is one of the people who actively hid child rape from secular authorities and enabled the rapists to continue their ways. Thanks for the heads-up about the white clothes and the pointy hat. I'd never have identified the pope otherwise. In way too many years of Catholic schooling, I've never heard anyone say the pope sits in judgment of the whole world, though. As Michelangelo tried to make clear in his decorations for the Sistine Chapel, that's Jesus' job. And anyone on Earth can talk directly to God. And yes, I'm aware of Ratzinger's appalling past. He wrote the document that sealed my departure, actually. quote:
How can you defend that organization? You seemed to have glossed over a key bit of Post 99: "Individuals in the institution did monstrous things. The institution did a monstrous thing by covering it up. Lives were shattered as a result." If that's your idea of defense, I'll stick with Clarence Darrow. * * * Of course, the real error, though, was mine. I should have heeded the small, still voice that told me venturing into this thread was crazy. When folks are painting with broad brushes and enjoying the thrill of righteous indignation, they're not keen to hear anyone ask, "But is that the whole story?" And I ought to have known that anyone claiming to know good Catholic priests these days would be as welcome as Rhett Butler at the Twelve Oaks barbecue. Like that swarthy rascal, I've called things as I see them and, to borrow his words, "I'm sorry if the truth offends you." * * * ETA: It never fails. I shut down the iMac, head toward bed, and then remember something I missed. What, you must wonder, could inspire someone to voice sympathy for Catholic priests, of all people, these days? Perhaps it's because I've had the experience of being in a maligned minority myself. Coming out as a gay man in the 1980s, I encountered all manner of assumptions as to what I must be like. The most powerful of all was the disapproving/envying belief that all gay men were sexual dynamos. That was all well and good till that pesky little retrovirus started crashing our parties. Our hourly trysts spread the virus fast, and a health crisis erupted. Gay promiscuity was suddenly a national topic, with everyone weighing in and nobody questioning the received truth. Even a very wise, kindly friend asked, "Well, why are you guys so promiscuous, anyway?" All this led to a new math: gay = promiscuous = AIDS. If people saw me, they saw that. This was particularly noteworthy at blood drives. No matter what your HIV status, how dull your sexual dossier, your blood was plasma non grata. All this to say, I've heard people say, "He's gay, He must be _____." Hence my reluctance to say, "He's a Catholic priest. He must be _____."
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