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BamaD -> RE: How about Mandatory Drug Testing for Gun Licenses? (1/18/2013 6:55:47 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: jlf1961 quote: ORIGINAL: BamaD quote: ORIGINAL: tazzygirl A 1981 case.... I never said you couldnt defend yourself. I never said you couldnt own any firearm your little heart desires. I would make it legal for you to own anything you wish. I would also make you responsible for what happens to that weapon after you purchase it. You have also said that anything semi auto would have to be kept at a gun club making it totally unavaliable to the "owner" would be toughfor people like me, the nearest gun club is at least 100 miles away more likely 250 Actually she amended that at one point, stating that a keypad and key lock gunsafe would be the perfect solution. I have one, but then I have my grandkids coming around and I have an 11 month old nephew that has already mastered opening child locked cabinets. I honestly think he is a reincarnated safe cracker. You need to keep an eye on that one (maybe get a cut of the take)

Hillwilliam -> RE: How about Mandatory Drug Testing for Gun Licenses? (1/18/2013 6:55:54 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Nosathro My persona name is Gautier De La Roche and I and the rest of the Archduchy don't "YARRRRRRRRRRRR" which just goes to show how much you know.....ZERO! So, you're Ken this weekend. He wasn't anatomically correct either.[sm=lol.gif]

jlf1961 -> RE: How about Mandatory Drug Testing for Gun Licenses? (1/18/2013 7:06:18 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: BamaD quote: ORIGINAL: jlf1961 quote: ORIGINAL: BamaD quote: ORIGINAL: tazzygirl A 1981 case.... I never said you couldnt defend yourself. I never said you couldnt own any firearm your little heart desires. I would make it legal for you to own anything you wish. I would also make you responsible for what happens to that weapon after you purchase it. You have also said that anything semi auto would have to be kept at a gun club making it totally unavaliable to the "owner" would be toughfor people like me, the nearest gun club is at least 100 miles away more likely 250 Actually she amended that at one point, stating that a keypad and key lock gunsafe would be the perfect solution. I have one, but then I have my grandkids coming around and I have an 11 month old nephew that has already mastered opening child locked cabinets. I honestly think he is a reincarnated safe cracker. You need to keep an eye on that one (maybe get a cut of the take) Actually I was thinking of teaching him everything he needs to know so that when he goes to college, he can take the right courses to recruited by the CIA.

Real0ne -> RE: How about Mandatory Drug Testing for Gun Licenses? (1/18/2013 9:18:00 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: punisher440 Well Tazzy,I never said I needed a 30 round clip to deer hunt did I? yah but what if there are 30 deer?

Real0ne -> RE: How about Mandatory Drug Testing for Gun Licenses? (1/18/2013 9:20:15 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: jlf1961 quote: ORIGINAL: tazzygirl A 1981 case.... I never said you couldnt defend yourself. I never said you couldnt own any firearm your little heart desires. I would make it legal for you to own anything you wish. I would also make you responsible for what happens to that weapon after you purchase it. Do you have a sister who is single and likes older men? I agree with everything you said there, Tazzy. The biggest problem is that majority of gun owners do not properly secure their weapons, and the sub culture of doomsday preppers pride themselves on having weapons close at hand and easy to get to incase the shit hits the fan. They dont seem to realize that they would have a lot of warning before people start trying to steal their food and supplies. First the stores would get looted, then the Warehouses for the Food distributors would be looted, then they would come to houses. whats wrong with bringing your kids right instead?

Real0ne -> RE: How about Mandatory Drug Testing for Gun Licenses? (1/18/2013 9:21:51 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: farglebargle quote: ORIGINAL: Real0ne So the acid head 24/7 pot smoker takes a 10 minute break long enough to buy one or several guns then never has to take the test again. Fargs whole premise aside from expanding the POLICE STATE into a PRISON STATE with extra completely useless expenses to further tap taxpayers is worthless unless you want to bring them in for piss tests all the time. Now farg is that what you are suggesting? First off, anyone who really wants to game the system just fakes the test with clean urine anyway. No need to stop smoking pot at all. IIRC, Tommy Chong used to endorse a product called "Urine Luck" or something like that. Reductio-ad-absurdum. It's lost on some people, though. Which is sad. true

BamaD -> RE: How about Mandatory Drug Testing for Gun Licenses? (1/18/2013 9:27:43 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: jlf1961 quote: ORIGINAL: BamaD quote: ORIGINAL: jlf1961 quote: ORIGINAL: BamaD quote: ORIGINAL: tazzygirl A 1981 case.... I never said you couldnt defend yourself. I never said you couldnt own any firearm your little heart desires. I would make it legal for you to own anything you wish. I would also make you responsible for what happens to that weapon after you purchase it. You have also said that anything semi auto would have to be kept at a gun club making it totally unavaliable to the "owner" would be toughfor people like me, the nearest gun club is at least 100 miles away more likely 250 Actually she amended that at one point, stating that a keypad and key lock gunsafe would be the perfect solution. I have one, but then I have my grandkids coming around and I have an 11 month old nephew that has already mastered opening child locked cabinets. I honestly think he is a reincarnated safe cracker. You need to keep an eye on that one (maybe get a cut of the take) Actually I was thinking of teaching him everything he needs to know so that when he goes to college, he can take the right courses to recruited by the CIA. even better

jlf1961 -> RE: How about Mandatory Drug Testing for Gun Licenses? (1/18/2013 9:31:28 PM)
I have noticed that Damian, my great nephew has taken keen interest in the three ammo lock boxes I have. FYI, those lock boxes were awful expensive when I bought them, and I have since found some of equal quality for about a third of the price.

punisher440 -> RE: How about Mandatory Drug Testing for Gun Licenses? (1/18/2013 10:47:57 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Real0ne quote: ORIGINAL: punisher440 Well Tazzy,I never said I needed a 30 round clip to deer hunt did I? yah but what if there are 30 deer? I dropped 3 with 3 shots one season a few years ago at one sitting,I won't make that mistake again.Good thing it was in the morning instead of late afternoon or I'd have been cleaning deer until dark thirty.Besides,if I limit out too early in the season I don't get to go out and enjoy being out of the house.

jlf1961 -> RE: How about Mandatory Drug Testing for Gun Licenses? (1/18/2013 10:54:01 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: punisher440 quote: ORIGINAL: Real0ne quote: ORIGINAL: punisher440 Well Tazzy,I never said I needed a 30 round clip to deer hunt did I? yah but what if there are 30 deer? I dropped 3 with 3 shots one season a few years ago at one sitting,I won't make that mistake again.Good thing it was in the morning instead of late afternoon or I'd have been cleaning deer until dark thirty.Besides,if I limit out too early in the season I don't get to go out and enjoy being out of the house. Nice, but I agree with you, getting that many at one time is more of a curse than a blessing. And you are right, get your limit early and you have no reason to escape family in home later.

jlf1961 -> RE: How about Mandatory Drug Testing for Gun Licenses? (1/18/2013 10:55:34 PM)
Now on a separate note. If they ban 15, 20, 30 and 40 round mags, what are we going to do when the zombie apocalypse happens? You really think the zombies are going to wait while you reload?

MasterREB -> RE: How about Mandatory Drug Testing for Gun Licenses? (1/18/2013 11:04:08 PM)
why should we ban any gun or mags the swiss all have automatic wepons they are the standing army of swiss do they have any gun violance i dout it if every one 18-65 has an automatic wepon noone will be that stupid and beside the gun ban is just the tail wagging the Dog it isnt the guns it is all the people that have been released from the mental hospitals not taking their meds but we can make them take them can we

jlf1961 -> RE: How about Mandatory Drug Testing for Gun Licenses? (1/19/2013 12:09:06 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: MasterREB why should we ban any gun or mags the swiss all have automatic wepons they are the standing army of swiss do they have any gun violance i dout it if every one 18-65 has an automatic wepon noone will be that stupid and beside the gun ban is just the tail wagging the Dog it isnt the guns it is all the people that have been released from the mental hospitals not taking their meds but we can make them take them can we Uh, the american anti-gun peoples do not want to hear that. Or that isreal has some of the laxest gun laws and low gun crime rate. There are a lot of theories about why the US has such a high gun crime rate, but not all of them point to the ease of getting a gun. Besides most criminals do not legally buy their guns.

punisher440 -> RE: How about Mandatory Drug Testing for Gun Licenses? (1/19/2013 12:26:25 AM)
quote: You really think the zombies are going to wait while you reload? I posted what might be the answer to your question in the Train Wreck thread....[:D]

jlf1961 -> RE: How about Mandatory Drug Testing for Gun Licenses? (1/19/2013 1:30:52 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: punisher440 quote: You really think the zombies are going to wait while you reload? I posted what might be the answer to your question in the Train Wreck thread....[:D] However I saw an article about an experimental weapon built by a GE engineer, a 50 cal minigun, 7500 rounds a minute, according to the article he was inspired by all the zombie movies. Seeing as how I got 6 bottles of single malt 75 year old scotch, of course I need one to protect my priceless booze.

Nosathro -> RE: How about Mandatory Drug Testing for Gun Licenses? (1/19/2013 2:02:36 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Yachtie quote: ORIGINAL: Nosathro My persona name is Gautier De La Roche and I and the rest of the Archduchy don't "YARRRRRRRRRRRR" which just goes to show how much you know.....ZERO! Sounds high brow. Elitist even. [;)] Don't speak French do you?

Nosathro -> RE: How about Mandatory Drug Testing for Gun Licenses? (1/19/2013 2:10:09 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: punisher440 quote: ORIGINAL: Nosathro quote: ORIGINAL: punisher440 I guess you only read the part of an article you can bend to support your views. quote: Another large source of guns used in crimes are unlicensed street dealers who either get their guns through illegal transactions with licensed dealers, straw purchases, or from gun thefts. These illegal dealers turn around and sell these illegally on the street. An additional way criminals gain access to guns is family and friends, either through sales, theft or as gifts The present laws already make it illegal to purchase a gun to knowingly bypass certain laws[i.e. buying a gun for a convicted felon].If the gun laws were enforced that are already on the books and the criminals actually faced the full sentence for the crimes commited then maybe we might see a reduction.But when present laws are not enforced or applied piece-meal then why try writing more laws? I read the whole article, FYI in Columbine shooting the underage kids, had a friend buy them the weapons. In the Sandy Hook shooting the guns were just there, his mother never secured them. So the article is current. Are you so blind that you won't admit that those strawman purchases are already against the laws on the books now and until those laws are enforced making more laws only affect the law abiding citizens.If there were no guns in the entire world,people with the will to harm others will find a way to do so...example,Timothy McVeigh or Andrew Kehoe.Crazy people do crazy things..how about outlawing crazy people,problem solved. No I am not blind, funny you mention McVeigh..very pro gun, did not like the idea of gun control laws....Andrew Kehoe..didn't you use dynimite?

Nosathro -> RE: How about Mandatory Drug Testing for Gun Licenses? (1/19/2013 2:14:33 AM)
There are a lot of theories about why the US has such a high gun crime rate, but not all of them point to the ease of getting a gun. Besides most criminals do not legally buy their guns. [/quote] You know I posted a article that shows criminals get their guns legally...you should read it, there are other also here is one. http://www.nytimes.com/1992/03/11/us/how-criminals-get-guns-in-short-all-too-easily.html?pagewanted=all&src=pm

Nosathro -> RE: How about Mandatory Drug Testing for Gun Licenses? (1/19/2013 2:20:38 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: MasterREB why should we ban any gun or mags the swiss all have automatic wepons they are the standing army of swiss do they have any gun violance i dout it if every one 18-65 has an automatic wepon noone will be that stupid and beside the gun ban is just the tail wagging the Dog it isnt the guns it is all the people that have been released from the mental hospitals not taking their meds but we can make them take them can we Really let me see There Raul Rodriguez, James Patrick, Wonder, Jake England, I could go on, all convicted of killing, none were from mental hospitals....It seems that the pro gun people here are trying to use those with mental illness as scap goats.

joether -> RE: How about Mandatory Drug Testing for Gun Licenses? (1/19/2013 2:53:53 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: LizDeluxe quote: ORIGINAL: Nosathro Preamble of the US Constitution: We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence,[note 1] promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America. "Promote the general welfare" means "handouts" but "shall not be infringed" does not mean "shall not be infringed". Thanks for clearing that up. Actually, '...shall not be infringed.' doesnt mean you or I have an unlimited right to a firearm. That part of the amendment was in reference to how the '...well regulated militia....' would handle recieving an order from the goverment to surrender their arms as a prelude to a tyrannical goverment taking over. This doesnt apply to you if your NOT in a '...well regulated militia...'. Even if you were in a '...well regulated militia...' you would have to prove beyond a reasonable doubt in court that your claim is correct. Good luck with that one! Educated guess places your arguement as being 'thrown out of court' long before a decision is rendered. Promote the general welfare could be reasonable argued on several fronts (ie. health care, foodstamps, heating oil, disaster relief, etc).

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