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RE: New to bdsm and find a lot of it weird?? - 1/23/2013 9:50:30 AM   
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I posted your entire response. There was no cut and paste. It was a direct quote. Maybe try making your point clearly in the first place instead of leaving us to have to figure out what the hell you're talking about.


I also posted the entire quote, no cutting and pasting. Someone needs a chill pill.

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RE: New to bdsm and find a lot of it weird?? - 1/23/2013 9:50:57 AM   
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No, she wasn't. And your original post and subsequent responses were a little convoluted, but I used to make a living out of understanding what people were trying to say and teaching them how to be more precise. Shame I can't do it myself, consistently, but if you have your answer, go on to the next topic. Now it's just arguing.

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RE: New to bdsm and find a lot of it weird?? - 1/23/2013 9:51:10 AM   
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If someone gets something wrong, and you use that as the basis of your opinion, you will be wrong too!

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RE: New to bdsm and find a lot of it weird?? - 1/23/2013 9:53:18 AM   
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This is going round in circles, im talking about one thing and everybody else seems to be talking about something different.

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RE: New to bdsm and find a lot of it weird?? - 1/23/2013 9:55:37 AM   
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Ok, I'll ask a question so I can get on the same topic as you, what are you talking about?

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RE: New to bdsm and find a lot of it weird?? - 1/23/2013 9:56:54 AM   
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Frozen balls.

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RE: New to bdsm and find a lot of it weird?? - 1/23/2013 9:57:42 AM   
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ORIGINAL: con8ken

This is going round in circles, im talking about one thing and everybody else seems to be talking about something different.


I think she is bullshitting you, tittilating you; if you will. 

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RE: New to bdsm and find a lot of it weird?? - 1/23/2013 9:58:15 AM   
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ORIGINAL: con8ken

LilSquaw was trying to say that I was saying, that all victims some aspects of being raped.




I NEVER stated that YOU said all rape victims enjoyed it.
I did however, quote you when YOU stated rape victims enjoyed it and referred me to google. *rolls my eyes*

I didn't make that shit up.
YOU said it darl'n.

Own what you said.



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RE: New to bdsm and find a lot of it weird?? - 1/23/2013 10:00:23 AM   
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Lol, I asked a question in order to steer the conversation back to the original point, and not carry on talking about something that has nothing to do with anything except what's going on in your mind. It's hard work trying to make a close minded person see there wrong!

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RE: New to bdsm and find a lot of it weird?? - 1/23/2013 10:02:04 AM   
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ORIGINAL: con8ken

Lol, I asked a question in order to steer the conversation back to the original point, and not carry on talking about something that has nothing to do with anything except what's going on in your mind. It's hard work trying to make a close minded person see there wrong!



POT meet Kettle!

You call other's close minded.
You dear are extremely close minded, judgmental and flat out naive.
But you have the nerve to call other's close minded.
Irony!

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RE: New to bdsm and find a lot of it weird?? - 1/23/2013 10:04:44 AM   
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Arrrg LilSquaw you miss quoted me in the first place, took what I said out of context and jump to conclusions.
Then started talking about something that had nothing to do with what I was.


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RE: New to bdsm and find a lot of it weird?? - 1/23/2013 10:07:53 AM   
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ORIGINAL: con8ken

Arrrg LilSquaw you miss quoted me in the first place, took what I said out of context and jump to conclusions.
Then started talking about something that had nothing to do with what I was.




I NEVER miss quoted you.
I simply quoted what you said.
What I called you on is in YOUR posts.
In those exact same words that I quoted.

How is that miss quoting you?

YOUR words are right there for anyone and everyone to read.
I NEVER changed your words darl'n.


ETA:

And yes I called you on what YOU said about rape victims enjoying being rapped.
I will you that BULLSHIT every time.
That wasn't taking what you said out of context.
That was calling YOU on YOUR words.



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RE: New to bdsm and find a lot of it weird?? - 1/23/2013 10:08:06 AM   
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Littlewonder if you can't understand what I'm saying, ask a question, instead of making pathetic remarks. You clear haven't a clue of what I'm saying.


Of course I don't have a clue what you are saying because you obviously have nothing to say. You have no clear point of communication. Your grammar is horrible and not easily understood.

You need to go back to school so that you can learn communication. There really are classes for that. Most colleges make it a requirement.


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RE: New to bdsm and find a lot of it weird?? - 1/23/2013 10:09:30 AM   
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I'm far from close minded, as for judgmental, its my right to make judgements, if you dont like them you have the right to ignore or question them.
Naive, I don't believe I know everything and I'm always looking for an opportunity to learn.
If in your mind your thinking about something different to me, then your never gonna understand.

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RE: New to bdsm and find a lot of it weird?? - 1/23/2013 10:12:43 AM   
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How do you expect anyone to understand if you don't tell us? Read your mind? Good luck with that. So far you haven't said anything at all.


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RE: New to bdsm and find a lot of it weird?? - 1/23/2013 10:14:20 AM   
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I'm more of a hands on person, I may do a class at some point, thanks for the advice!

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RE: New to bdsm and find a lot of it weird?? - 1/23/2013 10:17:47 AM   
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ORIGINAL: con8ken

I'm far from close minded, as for judgmental, its my right to make judgements, if you dont like them you have the right to ignore or question them.
Naive, I don't believe I know everything and I'm always looking for an opportunity to learn.
If in your mind your thinking about something different to me, then your never gonna understand.


If you don't think you are close minded.
Wow.
Re-read your OP and following posts.

You're right, making judgments is a normal thing.
In fact I've made judgments about you.
Judgments based on facts (your posts).

However, you are also making blanket and flat out false statements along with those personal judgments.

There is a huge difference expressing YOUR opinion and stating your opinion as fact.
You have been doing the latter throughout this thread.



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RE: New to bdsm and find a lot of it weird?? - 1/23/2013 10:22:26 AM   
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I have just re read the OP, and its you who are wrong LilSquaw.

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RE: New to bdsm and find a lot of it weird?? - 1/23/2013 10:24:07 AM   
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You are making judgments based on what you believe me to be saying, and your wrong, so are your judgments.

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RE: New to bdsm and find a lot of it weird?? - 1/23/2013 10:24:11 AM   
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I spoke to one sub and what she was saying seemed nuts, she had fantasies about being raped, to me the feelings of a victim who has no inclination towards any of the effects or emotions, and the feelings that a fantasist associates with it can never be equated, which is not to say the reality of rape is any less of a vile act if happened to either. I think some people don't differentiate between reality and fantasy and are damaged by it. Would any of you think that it would be ok for a masochist person to make a choice to put themselves in dangerous situations with a hope to actually being raped, based on their fantasy and the perceived feelings they will get from it?
I think she is delusional and needs to seek help to protect her from herself.
Do any of you believe that if they enjoy the reality of being raped, and as long as they report the crime to the police so this vile criminal can be arrested, that's ok.? I don't. So again I believe they need to be protected from themselves.
Just because a person can it doesn't mean they should.
I understand that this doesn't reflect the reality of everyday people in the bdsm community and the vast majority practice within safe limits, however extreme they may seem.

I only asked two questions just to see if anyone agreed with me, and know one picked up on the questions and started saying unrelated stuff
I think there are several possibilities here. One is that the person that you talked to found herself a gullible listener so for fun, she wanted to see if she could flip you out by saying she wanted to do dangerous stuff. Some people really do get their kicks that way. Don't believe Me? Ask the forum how often some poor guy really believes the story about how some girl was kidnapped against her will, taken against state lines, and is being held captive by some cartel kingpin. (Always remember that the so-called kidnap victim has computer access to tell the other person her story on a kink site, but can't contact the authorities.)

Another possibility is someone is trying to inspire white knight syndrome. That's somebody who is trying to get the other person involved in the conversation to want to "save" the storyteller. It's a con that gets the listener hooked and invested in the well being of the con artist. She makes you think she needs help and in order for her to get that help, she needs your assistance.

A scenario that comes up on a rare basis is the twisted guy who is literally setting up an account as his ex girlfriend to dupe people into raping the woman in real life. The 'girl' tells males on a kink site that she has rape fantasies and is seeking to fulfill them in any way 'she' can. Either with a guy who also enjoys rape play or somebody who feels that they should help her with her fantasy so she doesn't endanger herself in real life. When somebody is dumb enough to fall for this little ploy, the guy from the kink site follows through on the real woman, who had no clue about the 'play rape' so it really is rape. The guy who thought it was consensual ends up with a criminal conviction.

Of course, there is always the possibility that you never talked to anyone, have fantasies of your own that you don't quite know how to reconcile, and thought you'd have your own fun on a kink site.

So, to answer your direct question, no, I don't think I should do anything to prevent anyone from doing what they want to do. In all of the years that I have been engaging in BDSM, I have yet to run across the actual person who has wanted the reality of the situation that you put forth in the question you posed to the forum. That's after meeting, interacting, and socializing with thousands of kinky people over more than the last decade. I'm betting the odds that you didn't come across that person who exists in reality in five days.



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