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Moonlightmaddnes -> RE: New to bdsm and find a lot of it weird?? (1/23/2013 10:25:18 AM)


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ORIGINAL: con8ken

I'm far from close minded, as for judgmental, its my right to make judgements, if you dont like them you have the right to ignore or question them.
Naive, I don't believe I know everything and I'm always looking for an opportunity to learn.
If in your mind your thinking about something different to me, then your never gonna understand.



That's funny considering you came onto a BDSM site and said people like us are weird and need mental help. That sounds pretty damn judgmental to me. You know I would never go onto a vanilla site and tell those people who enjoy their lives that they were wrong and boring and needed help. Everyone is different. You have no right to tell anyone their life is wrong or perverted when what they are doing is between consenting adults.




con8ken -> RE: New to bdsm and find a lot of it weird?? (1/23/2013 10:26:52 AM)

Anyway, you obviously don't get it. I think your just being stubborn now.




TheLilSquaw -> RE: New to bdsm and find a lot of it weird?? (1/23/2013 10:29:08 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: con8ken

You are making judgments based on what you believe me to be saying, and your wrong, so are your judgments.


No, I am quoting your EXACT words.
I am making judgments on the words YOU type and post.

If you don't mean what you say, then the fault lies with you.
I am a lot of things but a mind reader.
I am not.





tazzygirl -> RE: New to bdsm and find a lot of it weird?? (1/23/2013 10:33:31 AM)

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We all have desires but we curtail them out of respect and dignity, not only for ourselves but others. Saying they like it to happen an I like doing it, is not a reason to do something. Just because you can doesn't mean you should. Freedom of choice? Hmm


And I dont care if you dont like me taking part of your post... deal with it.

There are people who like anal.... not for me...
There are people who like blood... not for me...
There are people who like golden showers... not for me
There are people who enjoy rape fantasies... not for me
There are adrenaline junkies.... not my kink

quote:

I spoke to one sub and what she was saying seemed nuts, she had fantasies about being raped, to me the feelings of a victim who has no inclination towards any of the effects or emotions, and the feelings that a fantasist associates with it can never be equated, which is not to say the reality of rape is any less of a vile act if happened to either. I think some people don't differentiate between reality and fantasy and are damaged by it. Would any of you think that it would be ok for a masochist person to make a choice to put themselves in dangerous situations with a hope to actually being raped, based on their fantasy and the perceived feelings they will get from it?


These types of fantasies are actually quite common.

Sometimes, a fantasy is only that and never meant to be more.


quote:

ORIGINAL: con8ken

Only if the person is delusional about the reality of rape will the two be equated in fantasy


What are your professional qualifications to make the above medical diagnosis?

quote:

The main point is, do you believe that the masochist in the scenario I set, that being actively seeking to raped for real, needs protecting from herself.


So now you want to play the white knight role and rush in to rescue her?

She is an adult. She is making decisions you dont agree with.

quote:

The original question is as it is there as I copied and pasted it
Whether you are actively seeking or not doesnt negate the questions. And if you read it the questions aren't the point. The point is some people need protecting from themselves.


I agree, some people do need protecting from themselves.

Are you qualified to determine who does and who does not?

From what I am reading here, I would say no.

quote:

This sub I spoke to actually said by a stranger in the legal definition of the word.
I have no trouble making the distinction.
She said it would be the ultimate for her, and if it were to happen her it wouldn't cause her to become damaged an stress about it.
She knew the distinction between the two, I asked her if she did and she explained.
She said, she purposefully walks down dark alleys and deserted streets, roads/places at night sometimes, hoping someone will attack her. I was taken aback by this and thought, she's nuts her.


And, on page 6, post 110 of your thread, you finally get to the meat of the matter. Unless you have proof she is a danger to herself, there isnt anything you can do. Many people choose to do risky behaviors. Ever seen a glory hole?

And, I really have to ask you....

Why are you ignoring LadyPact's posts? What she has posted has been full of information for you.




con8ken -> RE: New to bdsm and find a lot of it weird?? (1/23/2013 10:42:30 AM)

LilSquaw just because you think something means something doesn't mean its true,
you haven't quoted anything Ive said, because you keep making things up about what I'm saying.
Fair enough I may not explain what I'm saying correctly, but at the same time if I say you have taken it wrong, then you have, I've nothing to hide or any reason to lie.
I'm only here to learn and expand my knowledge.
From my point of view, I'm saying one thing and everybody else is trying to tell I'm not.






con8ken -> RE: New to bdsm and find a lot of it weird?? (1/23/2013 10:44:25 AM)

I'm not ignoring any posts




TheLilSquaw -> RE: New to bdsm and find a lot of it weird?? (1/23/2013 10:50:37 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: con8ken


you haven't quoted anything Ive said, because you keep making things up about what I'm saying.



Show me one time where I changed your words or miss quoted you.
YOUR words are exactly the same from your post to mine when I quote you.
I don't change them.
I don't tweek them.


I have quoted your exact words in EVERY single response I have made to you.
So now I am going to call you a flat out LIAR.





absolutchocolat -> RE: New to bdsm and find a lot of it weird?? (1/23/2013 11:09:37 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: TheLilSquaw

quote:

ORIGINAL: con8ken


you haven't quoted anything Ive said, because you keep making things up about what I'm saying.



Show me one time where I changed your words or miss quoted you.
YOUR words are exactly the same from your post to mine when I quote you.
I don't change them.
I don't tweek them.


I have quoted your exact words in EVERY single response I have made to you.
So now I am going to call you a flat out LIAR.




I feel a flounce coming on. The "logic" in his OP didn't convince us, so now we're "misunderstanding" him or "misquoting" him. And so it begins...




con8ken -> RE: New to bdsm and find a lot of it weird?? (1/23/2013 11:12:09 AM)

That's not it at all





con8ken -> RE: New to bdsm and find a lot of it weird?? (1/23/2013 11:13:38 AM)

And anyway what part of the OP didnt convince you, because I never tried to convince you of anything




mnottertail -> RE: New to bdsm and find a lot of it weird?? (1/23/2013 11:15:05 AM)

8 pages and some unknown gash you probably dont really know anything about other than chatting thru the internet tells you she goes looking for rape.

Is it ok, is that the fuckin question?

Sure.............whatever, it can be stated including response on the back of a matchbook cover.





con8ken -> RE: New to bdsm and find a lot of it weird?? (1/23/2013 11:16:55 AM)

Very tiresome and boring going in circles. You aren't making any point, and you missed mine.
I'm new to forums, and its clear that people jump to conclusion quickly and take things out of context.
It's clear that ill have to be careful about posting in the future.
It's also clear that when somebody is wrong the never want to admit it, afraid they will lose face.
I'm not egotistical and have no desire or need to please, I'm quite happy to admit when I'm wrong, it makes no difference to me. you live an learn.
I'm not a liar and I respect myself, we don't know each other
I've got all I'm gonna get out of this thread, I have no desire to continually go round in circles with this anymore, it could go on and on and most of you still won't get it. It's like talking to a brick wall.
Anyway, if I read any of your threads or posts, my opinion of your opinion will be tainted with the experience I've had of you here.
Hopefully it doesn't hinder my progress.

Enjoy




con8ken -> RE: New to bdsm and find a lot of it weird?? (1/23/2013 11:18:01 AM)

Lol,




con8ken -> RE: New to bdsm and find a lot of it weird?? (1/23/2013 11:19:22 AM)

Your right mnottertail, its is a load of crap, a waste of time.




TheLilSquaw -> RE: New to bdsm and find a lot of it weird?? (1/23/2013 11:21:17 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: con8ken


I'm not a liar and I respect myself, we don't know each other






You are a liar.
Why?
You stated several times that I misquoted you.

Misquote means to quote (a text, speech, etc.) inaccurately.
I NEVER did that.

So yes, you are a liar.




absolutchocolat -> RE: New to bdsm and find a lot of it weird?? (1/23/2013 11:21:44 AM)

First of all, sugar...you didn't even have a question in your OP. You simply stated that some BDSM activities creep you out, are dangerous, blah blah blah. I get it. This ain't everyone's cup of tea, and us forum geeks tend to engage in SSC activities anyway.

What I take issue with, however, is the fact that numerous folks have engaged with you and tried to explain certain things, yet you get defensive and shit. YOU made this thread. YOU asked for input. Don't get butthurt when the answers you get aren't the ones you though you would.




TheLilSquaw -> RE: New to bdsm and find a lot of it weird?? (1/23/2013 11:24:58 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: absolutchocolat

and us forum geeks tend to engage in SSC activities anyway




I'm not a SSC girl, I am more of a RACK girl.
But eh. ...





mnottertail -> RE: New to bdsm and find a lot of it weird?? (1/23/2013 11:28:12 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: TheLilSquaw


quote:

ORIGINAL: absolutchocolat

and us forum geeks tend to engage in SSC activities anyway




I'm not a SSC girl, I am more of a RACK girl.
But eh. ...




Clearly the pictures I have seen of you, you have a rack, but all those rack ssc sack fack lack cakk acronyms are a distinction without a difference to me.

Dont shove ice cubes up peoples asses, don't poke a quart of vodka up a slaves ass in an enema..........and if you don't know what you are doing, go real slow.....

And only engage in futile wanking discussions if you really don't give a glimmer of a fuck..... 




absolutchocolat -> RE: New to bdsm and find a lot of it weird?? (1/23/2013 11:31:16 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: TheLilSquaw


quote:

ORIGINAL: absolutchocolat

and us forum geeks tend to engage in SSC activities anyway




I'm not a SSC girl, I am more of a RACK girl.
But eh. ...




Looked nice when I typed it. lol




mnottertail -> RE: New to bdsm and find a lot of it weird?? (1/23/2013 11:32:22 AM)

And another fine RACKee.




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