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What are your fantasies / experiences with hypnosis ? - 2/1/2013 5:13:32 AM   
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With hypnosis you can induce a hallucinative state, wherein your hypnotist
gives you suggestions and they feel like REAL. 100% real.

Say, you could decide to have sex with angelia jolie on a hot summer day on a nice beach.
You brain would arrange all your senses in a way you would believe it to be really happened.



Imagine you could experience any fetish / session / lover you ever wanted,
with no consequences, noone needing to know, what would it be ?
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RE: What are your fantasies / experiences with hypnosis ? - 2/1/2013 4:05:03 PM   
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Personally, I wouldn't. I have imagination, and it works quite nicely.

Regarding the practice of hypnotism, I've learned enough to put my girl under, although we haven't used it yet for anything. If I do, it will be a tool, no different than rope; effective when used effectively, useless beyond what it was meant for.

Out of curiosity, why are you asking for other people's fantasies?


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RE: What are your fantasies / experiences with hypnosis ? - 2/1/2013 4:06:23 PM   
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eehh...I like reality much better thanks. No hypnosis needed. I don't think hypnosis could beat being happier than my reality.

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RE: What are your fantasies / experiences with hypnosis ? - 2/1/2013 7:39:15 PM   
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Well, since I am among those who can't be hypnotized, it isn't something I think about. I also don't feel a need to share any of my fantasies with the forum at large.

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RE: What are your fantasies / experiences with hypnosis ? - 2/1/2013 7:50:52 PM   
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I can be hypnotized but not to the point of delusions.

Besides what's the point? I'd rather have the real thing than a fantasy.

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RE: What are your fantasies / experiences with hypnosis ? - 2/1/2013 8:06:06 PM   
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I'm always disappointed in those that treat hypnosis like it's a game. Someone who is not capable can actually do a great deal of harm.

We covered hypnosis as part of my degree. While I think it can be a useful tool, it needs to be treated with a great deal of respect...just like many of the toys we play with in WIITWD.

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RE: What are your fantasies / experiences with hypnosis ? - 2/1/2013 8:45:08 PM   
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Well, since I am among those who can't be hypnotized, it isn't something I think about. I also don't feel a need to share any of my fantasies with the forum at large.


Same here...I've viewed a few of those hypno videos that the hypno-fetishists rave about...all I got from it was REALLY PISSED OFF...for some reason that mono-tone going on and on and on and on and on and on endlessly ENDLESSLY triggers an angry response in Me....as for "fantasies", I fantasize about BLUDGEONING the hypnotizer into a bloody pulp. SHUT.THE.FjCK.UP!!!!! *WHAM-WHAM-WHACK-CRUNCH-CRUNCH-WHAM*

With that in mind, I have to say, YES, hypnosis can be VERY dangerous.

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RE: What are your fantasies / experiences with hypnosis ? - 2/1/2013 8:52:26 PM   
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As a professional erotic hypnotist, I find that hypnosis is an invaluable tool in the area of power exchange... to elicit feelings of submission.... deepening fetish attachment.....orgasm control.
Contrary to popular belief, a subject can NOT be hypnotised to do something against their will.

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RE: What are your fantasies / experiences with hypnosis ? - 2/2/2013 12:04:14 AM   
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@RemoteUser

This is a fetish-related forum where people discuss their lifestyle and fetishes. So it was my idea to start a conversation about a topic that I pre-tt-y much like,
To get in touch with the people here and what they think about it. :)

Maybe likeminds will arise =)


@ littlewonder

That is great for you ! I love my reality the way it is, too. I just see no contradiction between my "real-life" and the possibility to induce dreamlike fantasies at will. Or to use the many other possibilities I'd like to experience
thanks to reconditioning my / her mind with hypnosis.

@lafayettelady

Well, as far as I know, everyone is hypnotizable - people having schizophrenia or any other heavy mental disease taken out of consideration.
But really, what is hypnosis for you and the other forum users ?

Let me give you a definition that I have worked out over the last 7 years :

Hypnosis is the capability of altering ones states of mind into another ones
by words and other perceptive means, at will.

This is it. Nothing less. Did you ever see an advertising in tv and then thought something like : " I want to have that !"
Congratulations, you have been sucessfully hypnotized !

Have you ever been in a bad mood and you then took action, that soothed your mind, like listening to your favourite music ?
Congratulations, you have hypnotized yourself at will.

Now is a great chance for you to reconsider your doubts about hypnotizability, or not ;)

I mean, taking your opinion into consideration about me and hypnosis you represented in the last thread - apparently without knowing me or hypnosis -
it rather seems to me you dont WANT to see your self as hypnotizable. That is okay. And since you don't want to share your fantasies or like hypnosis at all,
this thread might not be the right one for you.

@osidegirl

Oh really, well I think that those people who consider hypnosis as harmful have greatly damaged the image of hypnosis
and thus have nourished many misconceptions and flawed premises on that topic. It will take many years of practice and adverdisement
by the most skilled hypnotists, to undo that false distrust.

I presume you did not learn real hypnosis, but rather touched the topic theoretically within study of psychology or the alike ?

Don't get me wrong here, yes you can inflict harm with hypnosis.
You can kill someone with a teddy bear. But what use does it have to think of a teddy bear as a harmful tool.
Really why should I not be allowed to playfully use hypnosis ?
If you split up the word game and the meaning "Irresponisble" you have attached to it, you may know what I mean.





Well as far as I can see hypnosis is not so very popular amongst everyone here, which explains the lack of knowledge about it.
My supposition was it may be rather known. A mistake I make at times.

With hypnosis you can form your / others very own conditionings, that he/she experienced in life.
As Temptation wrote, you can recondition the pleasure center of your slave.

For example, if she doesnt like sucking cock, but truely wants to serve you.
You could recondition her that cock is the most tasty thing she ever had in her mouth. You could even train her to orgasm everytime you cum in her mouth.
Or when you have a girl that sooooo badly wants to be a pet. Her whole life is about being a cat, she even bought cat ears + tail, only drinks milk out of her pot etc.
With hypnosis you can take a step further and make her feel like a REAL cat, with real fur and the perception of a cat, lets say for an hour a day.

Pretty neat I think. :)


Maybe that is claryfing the topic and my question. Hypnosis can be not only used to hallucinate, but to set your feelings at will,
to train behaviour (common topic in D/s relationships) in far, far less time than the usual.


Maybe you even feel inspired to investivate further : Nikola Tesla, one of the most ingenious minds the world has ever seen had the capability of
designing objects in his mind at will. He made those objects look, feel and touch like real, but without depleting any resources.


So it is always a question what you make out of it :)







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RE: What are your fantasies / experiences with hypnosis ? - 2/2/2013 1:25:54 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: MmeTemptation

As a professional erotic hypnotist, I find that hypnosis is an invaluable tool in the area of power exchange... to elicit feelings of submission.... deepening fetish attachment.....orgasm control.
Contrary to popular belief, a subject can NOT be hypnotised to do something against their will.


If you need hypnosis to elicit feelings of submission, then you really are doing something wrong to begin with.

If you take a little time and search this subject here, you will find that the majority of us already know someone can not be forced to do something against their will under hypnosis.

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RE: What are your fantasies / experiences with hypnosis ? - 2/2/2013 1:39:12 AM   
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My concerns with using hypnosis to turn a fantasy with (virtual) reality are that it might have nasty repercussions on (real) reality.

The scenario: You've always wanted to do the nasty with a famous person. For the sake of my own personal fantasy, say it's Christopher Ecclestone (for you Doctor Who freaks )

Sooo...I'm hypnotised into thinking me and Chris and now nekkid and about to get it on. I have invested a lot of fantasy time in this dude, so my brain makes sure the the (virtual) reality meets, and even exceeds, my expectations. He is one hot poppa!

Then it all begins. It gets hot and sweaty and lots of panting and writhing, and yet it's all perfect. His mere touch gets me to the brink of orgasm. He slips his tongue into my mouth, and the fireworks go off. He's an amazing lover - he knows everything I want and need to get me to the peak of sexual excitement, and he does it all. Perfectly.

OK, that was fun. Now back to reality. I'm with my partner. He's a wonderful man and sexually we are great together. But he's not a mind reader. My mind says "kiss me on my neck. Just THERE...". And he doesn't. Chris would. Chris got it ALL right because he's a mind reader. Hell, he IS my mind!

I moan and wriggle and whisper and my partner is now nibbling my neck. How wonderful would it feel if he squeezed my nipple too? He's not squeezing my nipple...but Chris would...

So no, I wouldn't indulge in fantasy if it meant that even for a microsecond I would compare the man I love negatively with the sexual god my brain has created.

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RE: What are your fantasies / experiences with hypnosis ? - 2/2/2013 1:45:39 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: maledaddy

@RemoteUser

This is a fetish-related forum where people discuss their lifestyle and fetishes. So it was my idea to start a conversation about a topic that I pre-tt-y much like,
To get in touch with the people here and what they think about it. :)

Maybe likeminds will arise =)



However, if you look around a bit, you will find what we do not discuss is "wank fodder," as in discussing fantasies to get the OP off.

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@ littlewonder

That is great for you ! I love my reality the way it is, too. I just see no contradiction between my "real-life" and the possibility to induce dreamlike fantasies at will. Or to use the many other possibilities I'd like to experience
thanks to reconditioning my / her mind with hypnosis.


Herein perhaps lies the problem. "Real life" and "dreamlike fantasies" are extremely different things.

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Well, as far as I know, everyone is hypnotizable - people having schizophrenia or any other heavy mental disease taken out of consideration.
But really, what is hypnosis for you and the other forum users ?


Actually, then what you know is incorrect. Not everyone can be hypnotized.

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Let me give you a definition that I have worked out over the last 7 years :



On the other thread, you stated you learned this "many years ago" which turned out to be THREE. Now apparently it is seven. Ummm....did you learn math under hypnosis?

Merriam Webster defines hypnosis as this:

1 : a trancelike state that resembles sleep but is induced by a person whose suggestions are readily accepted by the subject
2 : any of various conditions that resemble sleep

So apparently, your definition would be yours and yours alone.
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Hypnosis is the capability of altering ones states of mind into another ones
by words and other perceptive means, at will.


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This is it. Nothing less. Did you ever see an advertising in tv and then thought something like : " I want to have that !"
Congratulations, you have been sucessfully hypnotized !


Sublimal marketing and hypnosis is not the same thing. Further, perhaps it is something that will simply and truly make your life easier. For instance, your pet keeps knocking their water dish over, and you see something on television that claims to be "tip proof." You weren't hypnotized, you simply saw something that meets your needs. I used this example because I have cats who would knock their water dish over constantly. I actually didn't see a commercial, but found a stand in the store that would prevent it, but it is still a good example.

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Have you ever been in a bad mood and you then took action, that soothed your mind, like listening to your favourite music ?
Congratulations, you have hypnotized yourself at will.


I'm seriously beginning to question this course you took on hypnosis. Being able to "self soothe" is not the same as self hypnosis. Yes, there are people who can self hypnotize, but your example is not it.

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Now is a great chance for you to reconsider your doubts about hypnotizability, or not ;)

I mean, taking your opinion into consideration about me and hypnosis you represented in the last thread - apparently without knowing me or hypnosis -
it rather seems to me you dont WANT to see your self as hypnotizable. That is okay. And since you don't want to share your fantasies or like hypnosis at all,
this thread might not be the right one for you.


Do I doubt that people can be hypnotized? Not at all. I've seen it done. It was quite interesting. I daresay the hypnotist had a great deal more experience than you, so no reason to doubt his expertise.

It isn't that I don't "want" to see myself as hypnotizable. Perhaps if you knew a bit more about psychology, you would have the answer to that question. As it stands, it isn't a "want," it is a fact.

"Erotic hypnosis" doesn't have a wonderful reputation, and someone who took a short course in it isn't going to improve that situation. As for whether or not this thread is for me...news flash kiddo, as an internet forum, I, and everyone else is free to post their thoughts and opinions on any thread we choose, so while you obviously don't like that no one jumped in telling you all their hypnosis fantasies, it isn't for you to decide what thread is for who.

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@osidegirl

Oh really, well I think that those people who consider hypnosis as harmful have greatly damaged the image of hypnosis
and thus have nourished many misconceptions and flawed premises on that topic. It will take many years of practice and adverdisement
by the most skilled hypnotists, to undo that false distrust.

I presume you did not learn real hypnosis, but rather touched the topic theoretically within study of psychology or the alike ?

Don't get me wrong here, yes you can inflict harm with hypnosis.
You can kill someone with a teddy bear. But what use does it have to think of a teddy bear as a harmful tool.
Really why should I not be allowed to playfully use hypnosis ?
If you split up the word game and the meaning "Irresponisble" you have attached to it, you may know what I mean.



This is just so lacking in any credible knowlege, there isn't much to say.


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Well as far as I can see hypnosis is not so very popular amongst everyone here, which explains the lack of knowledge about it.
My supposition was it may be rather known. A mistake I make at times.



Actually, it is simply that we disagree with YOUR knowledge and views on hypnosis. It isn't a lack of knowledge.




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RE: What are your fantasies / experiences with hypnosis ? - 2/2/2013 1:52:19 AM   
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@lafayettelady

You have stated your repulsion towards this certain topic several times and that is okay.
But I am not sure why you are so provocative and I am not sure, whether you misunderstand by intent or by accident.
Either way, in my opinion your are beginning to get offensive.

It is a matter of politeness to accept that there are people who think differently.


It was my intent to talk about the possibilities of hypnosis not about what people who don't like it have to say to it.
So politely I beg you the second time to leave this thread as I see no value in your breed of discordance.

Edit: I took classes on hypnosis 3 years ago that is correct, but I have self-gained knowledge for a far longer time.
Geez, you really WANT to misunderstand me.


All I see coming from you are judgements based upon lack of understanding me and lack of experience of hypnosis - you said it yourself, you are "not hypnotizable" - you have no experience with hypnosis.

And yet you are screaming with intimdating words as if you know all about me or hypnosis or any other one who writes appreciative.


I do hope there are more hearty people on this forum...







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RE: What are your fantasies / experiences with hypnosis ? - 2/2/2013 2:05:36 AM   
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I have a bit different "take" on hypnosis than I have seen in the responses to this thread.

There are a LOT of forms of energy work, including some forms of healing which have worked for me. Often the approach brought me and sometimes my healer into a state of trance of some sort. In this state, interesting thought connections would sometimes occur with persons or life situations which I did not know.

I began to realize that for me, going deeply into subspace serving a dominant woman or going into domspace while enjoying a submissve woman also seemed very like forms of trance I experienced in energetic healing, in hypnosis and in transcendental meditation.

At times one dominant female partner who was also a Native American Shaman took me into experiences which were in other lives, not my own. I can not say that they were past lives of mine or any sort of previous connection to me.

They certainly were "other" lives. I thought about if maybe I was connecting with the minds of those who are in those lives, maybe now or even in future, but never found anything to prove that to be true or false.

It makes no difference to me if anyone agrees with me or believes me or not. I know what I have experienced.

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RE: What are your fantasies / experiences with hypnosis ? - 2/2/2013 3:03:33 AM   
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i have never been hypnotized, but i have been told by some that i can relax you to be able to do things( like deep throating) that you could not do before. if that is the case, then i would like to try it. and of course as with everything else in life, a qualified well trained professional would be the way to go.

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RE: What are your fantasies / experiences with hypnosis ? - 2/2/2013 6:13:29 AM   
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You'll have to excuse me, but I DON'T feel that hypnotizing someone to do something they really object to when not under hypnosis is "pretty neat and playful."

I consider that taking advantage of someone, as well as hypnotizing someone for purely selfish reasons.

Someone may not object to being hypnotized and think the idea is really cool. But that DOESN'T mean that what you have them do while "under" is something that would have their consent.


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ORIGINAL: maledaddy

Really why should I not be allowed to playfully use hypnosis ?

For example, if she doesnt like sucking cock, but truely wants to serve you.
You could recondition her that cock is the most tasty thing she ever had in her mouth. You could even train her to orgasm everytime you cum in her mouth.

Pretty neat I think. :)


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RE: What are your fantasies / experiences with hypnosis ? - 2/2/2013 8:24:41 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: LafayetteLady

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@osidegirl

Oh really, well I think that those people who consider hypnosis as harmful have greatly damaged the image of hypnosis
and thus have nourished many misconceptions and flawed premises on that topic. It will take many years of practice and adverdisement
by the most skilled hypnotists, to undo that false distrust.

I presume you did not learn real hypnosis, but rather touched the topic theoretically within study of psychology or the alike ?

Don't get me wrong here, yes you can inflict harm with hypnosis.
You can kill someone with a teddy bear. But what use does it have to think of a teddy bear as a harmful tool.
Really why should I not be allowed to playfully use hypnosis ?
If you split up the word game and the meaning "Irresponisble" you have attached to it, you may know what I mean.



This is just so lacking in any credible knowledge, there isn't much to say.


Well, ya know....he took a course three years a go, so he clearly must know more than someone like me. I love how I said that if improperly done it can cause harm and saying it should be treated with respect but, he reads that as hypnosis is flat out harmful. He twisted my statement just so he could rant and be defensive.


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RE: What are your fantasies / experiences with hypnosis ? - 2/2/2013 10:30:20 AM   
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You'll have to excuse me, but I DON'T feel that hypnotizing someone to do something they really object to when not under hypnosis is "pretty neat and playful."

I consider that taking advantage of someone, as well as hypnotizing someone for purely selfish reasons.

Someone may not object to being hypnotized and think the idea is really cool. But that DOESN'T mean that what you have them do while "under" is something that would have their consent.



Eso, your comments are forceful, yet, unfortunately, completely ill informed. No-one can be forced to do anything against their inherent nature through hypnosis. This is one of those hardest to die myths. It just won't go away. Allow me to repeat, No-One Can be Forced to DO ANYthing without their consent while under hypnosis.

And, of course I excuse you! <That's a joke!>



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RE: What are your fantasies / experiences with hypnosis ? - 2/2/2013 10:50:08 AM   
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While I am at it, allow me to add that only one very specific type of hypnosis is being discussed on this thread. That of the "deep trance state". In the right hands it can be very beneficial. Unless you are an expert though, no one has any business putting someone this deeply under. As someone suggested earlier, harm can be done.

But there are many stages of hypnosis. Light hypnosis happens to all of us, and on a daily basis. We have no "sense" of being under. We are wide awake going about our business. Light hypnosis is actually a perfectly normal human condition. Ever get really involved with something you are watching on the tube. To the point that everything else kinda goes away? That's an example of self-hypnosis. Completely normal. Perfectly natural.

In the "truth in advertising" department. No I am not a trained hypnotist. I have studied the subject extensively for many years though. I believe my comments are correct. But please do confirm with a trained specialist if you have any plans to use hypnosis.

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RE: What are your fantasies / experiences with hypnosis ? - 2/2/2013 10:54:42 AM   
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Honestly, and I say this with complete sincerity. Having read your post I get a very strong impression that you know very little about hypnosis.

Your apparent confusion of "advertising" with "hypnosis" rely nailed it for me.

To correct a couple of your misunderstandings...

Nope, not everyone can be hypnotised.

While it is possible to create the false memories that your op suggests, it eould take a fucking maestro hypnotist, or a lot of time to achieve and only with a very susceptible subject.

I would encourage you to do more reading on the topic.

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