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FFS, like everywhere else they have assimilated with later foreign invaders, that doesnt mean they do not have indigenous roots. Which is your claim.

What is distinct about the Palestinian Arab language, culture, society, beliefs or political system? That is part of the definition you want to use.

BTW why did you think I wouldn't actually read the edfinition you posted?

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edits to add.......... Modern DNA testing and genetic research actually proves you wrong. Go look it up if you doubt me.

Actually genetic testing shows that some palestinian Arabs share genes with Jews and with other Arabs. Since we already knew they were partially descended from the peoples that lived in and moved into the area after the Romans exiled the Jews this is no surprise to anyone.

This is turning into farce. I didnt post any definition, as you claim. The only one who did that is........You.

So no, you didnt read my definition as I didnt fucking post one.

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As Tweak said, it is the recent oppression of Palestinians by colonializing Israelis that matter, not ancient history. The appeal to 2000+ year old history is ridiculous.

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In late August, they issued a publication that appeared in newspapers across Australia and the UK, based largely on anonymous “testimonies,” which were then quoted without independent verification by foreign journalists. The report was filled with allegations of IDF misconduct and what the organization refers to as a “pattern of behavior” of soldier misconduct that it claims to have “uncovered” through its research.

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As Tweak said, it is the recent oppression of Palestinians by colonializing Israelis that matter, not ancient history. The appeal to 2000+ year old history is ridiculous.

strange ya brought up the topic of israels creation & being indigenous. lol leads me to think ya dont feel israel should exist.

the claims of breaking the silence are not verified http://www.jpost.com/Opinion/Op-EdContributors/Article.aspx?id=284715

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In late August, they issued a publication that appeared in newspapers across Australia and the UK, based largely on anonymous “testimonies,” which were then quoted without independent verification by foreign journalists. The report was filled with allegations of IDF misconduct and what the organization refers to as a “pattern of behavior” of soldier misconduct that it claims to have “uncovered” through its research.

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As Tweak said, it is the recent oppression of Palestinians by colonializing Israelis that matter, not ancient history. The appeal to 2000+ year old history is ridiculous.

strange ya brought up the topic of israels creation & being indigenous. lol leads me to think ya dont feel israel should exist.

the claims of breaking the silence are not verified http://www.jpost.com/Opinion/Op-EdContributors/Article.aspx?id=284715

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In late August, they issued a publication that appeared in newspapers across Australia and the UK, based largely on anonymous “testimonies,” which were then quoted without independent verification by foreign journalists. The report was filled with allegations of IDF misconduct and what the organization refers to as a “pattern of behavior” of soldier misconduct that it claims to have “uncovered” through its research.

The article you linked only says that journalists have not verified the testimonies. Journalists are lazy? So, what's new in that? Neu? But, none of the testimonies were discredited. So. kids throwing stones are an incentive to retalliate? That statement only confirms the report I highlighted.

Nice try, but fail.

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nah only a fail coz ya refuse to accept anything that goes against your views. their testimonies are anonymous so they couldnt be discredited coz there was no way to verify them. get it?

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nah only a fail coz ya refuse to accept anything that goes against your views. their testimonies are anonymous so they couldnt be discredited coz there was no way to verify them. get it?

Anonymous so they could not be assassinated by orthodox crazies the was Begin was done in, you mean. I doubt there is effective whistle blower protection to be had. Don't be freakin silly.

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nah only a fail coz ya refuse to accept anything that goes against your views. their testimonies are anonymous so they couldnt be discredited coz there was no way to verify them. get it?

Anonymous so they could not be assassinated by orthodox crazies the was Begin was done in, you mean. I doubt there is effective whistle blower protection to be had. Don't be freakin silly.

nah you shouldnt be "freakin silly" to think such stuff should just be accepted. material can be independently verified wit out breaking anonymity. often been done over sensitive material in the past.

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nah only a fail coz ya refuse to accept anything that goes against your views. their testimonies are anonymous so they couldnt be discredited coz there was no way to verify them. get it?

Anonymous so they could not be assassinated by orthodox crazies the was Begin was done in, you mean. I doubt there is effective whistle blower protection to be had. Don't be freakin silly.

nah you shouldnt be "freakin silly" to think such stuff should just be accepted. material can be independently verified wit out breaking anonymity. often been done over sensitive material in the past.

But, the article you linked doesn't address independent verification, only that journalists have not verified. Not one word to suggest that anyone has tried to verify. A big hole in your argument and in the propaganda of the J. Post.

So, you did not even look at the site. Give it up. Embarrassing

BIG FAIL!

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Every soldier who gives a testimony to Breaking the Silence knows the aims of the organization and the interview. Most soldiers choose to remain anonymous, due to various pressures from official military persons and society at large. Our first priority is to the soldiers who choose to testify to the public about their service.

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While their Web Site proclaims that they “demand accountability regarding Israel's military actions in the Occupied territories perpetrated by us and in our name,” they steadfastly refuse to report the alleged incidents to the proper authorities, and hide behind a cloak of anonymity, withholding their own identities, the identities of other individuals involved, and the specifics that would enable authorities to corroborate their testimonies — this, despite the army's injunction to report any violation of regulations that results in harm to noncombatants.

Moreover, in answer to an interview question about why the organization does not report their allegations to authorities, the group's co-director, Mikhael Manekin responded:

That is not our position. We view ourselves more as a media agency. The purpose is to generate public discussion around what is happening there... (BBC World Service Radio, July 15, 2009)

That is, the group's mission is not really about “demanding accountability,” as its Web site states, but about publicly demonizing Israel's military before allegations are investigated, as the group's co-director reveals.** And in this respect they have been hugely successful, thanks to an obliging foreign media willing to overlook the Society of Professional Journalists' Code of Ethics — which calls for “test[ing] the accuracy of information from all sources” — so that they can deliver a sensational story vilifying Israel.