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RE: Chris Kyle, Navy Seal and sniper. Why did this hav... - 2/8/2013 9:47:09 AM   
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RE: Chris Kyle, Navy Seal and sniper. Why did this hav... - 2/8/2013 9:48:07 AM   
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Apparently you know of another case beyond the one I was refering to. When I was that age I was rutenly left with three younger siblings.
Thank you for provideing more proof of my point.


Proves what point? That the world has become more dangerous than when we grew up? Thats been obvious for decades, its becoming increasinly worse.

They left a 14 year old alone, before 8 am, with 4 smaller children, two of which were killed by a man who broke in and stabbed 3 of them with a pitchfork.

If you have another case, then provide it.

Taz, is the world really more dangerous or is there better reporting and more media fed hysteria?

According the the FBI, violent crime rates in the US are lower than when we were kids but if you watch the 6 O'clock news, you'd be scared to poke your head out the door without body armor.

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RE: Chris Kyle, Navy Seal and sniper. Why did this hav... - 2/8/2013 9:58:28 AM   
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ORIGINAL: EsotericLady

LOL Hillwilliam. I really don't know what Comic Con is.
Does it have anything to do with flowing bathrobes, baggy pantaloons, and chubby men in tights toting crossbows?



or like this.





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RE: Chris Kyle, Navy Seal and sniper. Why did this hav... - 2/8/2013 10:01:21 AM   
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I honestly don't see what has got you so wound up. You aren't a youth (heh) who lives in the inner city of CHicago. You are a white male living in California, for heaven's sakes!!!

So what? You have labelled her a racist for what she said? For heaven's sakes man! The inner city kids in Chicago ARE killing each other! There are rival gangs just looking for a reason to take a shot at one another, drive by shootings, innocent children dying from stray bullets while sitting inside their homes! Don't you listen to the TV news or read a newspaper?????
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quote:

ORIGINAL: EsotericLady

I honestly don't care how you feel about the issues of this thread.
However, the statement (below) that you replied back to Liz Deluxe was COMPLETELY AND UTTERLY UNCALLED FOR AND UNNECESSARY!!! And i believe you owe her an apology!
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ORIGINAL: Nosathro

Don't you have a Cross Burning to go to?

http://nation.time.com/2013/01/30/chicago-girl-who-performed-at-obamas-inauguration-killed-in-shooting/





LizDeluxe
"The young inner city folk of Chicago just want to kill each other"
I will NOT apoloize.




I do but to label young inner city kids like that in nothing but bigotry.

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RE: Chris Kyle, Navy Seal and sniper. Why did this hav... - 2/8/2013 10:01:22 AM   
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Status: offline 		I was born 1965

Population

1965 193,526,000

Violent crimes - 387,390
Murder - 9,960

The year I would have been 14

Population

1979 220,099,000

VC - 1,208,030
Murder - 21,460

The year I turned 21

Pop - 1986 240,132,887

VC - 1,489,169
Murder - 20,613

http://www.disastercenter.com/crime/uscrime.htm

Population had not doubled, yet Murder did.

VC exploded between the time I was born and the time I turned 14... and grew until the 1990s.

The world really is more dangerous than when we were growing up.

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RE: Chris Kyle, Navy Seal and sniper. Why did this hav... - 2/8/2013 10:09:43 AM   
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RE: Chris Kyle, Navy Seal and sniper. Why did this hav... - 2/8/2013 10:12:41 AM   
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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

I was born 1965

Population

1965 193,526,000

Violent crimes - 387,390
Murder - 9,960

The year I would have been 14

Population

1979 220,099,000

VC - 1,208,030
Murder - 21,460

The year I turned 21

Pop - 1986 240,132,887

VC - 1,489,169
Murder - 20,613

http://www.disastercenter.com/crime/uscrime.htm

Population had not doubled, yet Murder did.

VC exploded between the time I was born and the time I turned 14... and grew until the 1990s.

The world really is more dangerous than when we were growing up.

I wasn't comparing it to when we were young vs a quarter century ago. I was comparing when we were young compared to now. (I was born in 60)

http://reason.com/blog/2012/10/30/violent-crime-rate-continues-two-decade

"Government figures released two weeks ago said that violent crime has fallen by 65 percent since 1993...."

But compared to 1993, people are scared shitless. why? sensationalism.

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RE: Chris Kyle, Navy Seal and sniper. Why did this hav... - 2/8/2013 10:13:02 AM   
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Status: offline 		My name is certainly not Taz, so I hope my comment won't be considered butting in to your question, HillWilliam.
I think it's hard to say whether violent crimes are really lower...just like saying the unemployment rate is X%.
It's all in what gets reported.

As for better reporting and media fed hysteria? By all means. One feeds the other.

quote:

ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam

Taz, is the world really more dangerous or is there better reporting and more media fed hysteria?

According the the FBI, violent crime rates in the US are lower than when we were kids but if you watch the 6 O'clock news, you'd be scared to poke your head out the door without body armor.


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RE: Chris Kyle, Navy Seal and sniper. Why did this hav... - 2/8/2013 10:13:43 AM   
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Status: offline 		I was basing it upon my reference to a 14 year old being left home alone and how incredibly stupid it was for any parent in this day and age to do so.

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RE: Chris Kyle, Navy Seal and sniper. Why did this hav... - 2/8/2013 10:16:28 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam


quote:

ORIGINAL: EsotericLady

LOL Hillwilliam. I really don't know what Comic Con is.
Does it have anything to do with flowing bathrobes, baggy pantaloons, and chubby men in tights toting crossbows?



or like this.






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RE: Chris Kyle, Navy Seal and sniper. Why did this hav... - 2/8/2013 10:19:45 AM   
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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

I was basing it upon my reference to a 14 year old being left home alone and how incredibly stupid it was for any parent in this day and age to do so.

But more stupid back when I was 14 and home alone. (although, I was an all-conference wrestler who was really handy with handguns, rifle and shotgun and I had a big assed shepherd with me so maybe it wasn't such a bad idea.)

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RE: Chris Kyle, Navy Seal and sniper. Why did this hav... - 2/8/2013 10:20:54 AM   
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Get out your road atlas because I would say, given that Mz Deluxe is from the Southern area of this country?
Your remark was most definitely bigoted AND racist!

So your accusations towards her end up being a double whammy!! OOPS!
quote:

ORIGINAL: Nosathro


quote:

ORIGINAL: EsotericLady

I honestly don't see what has got you so wound up. You aren't a youth (heh) who lives in the inner city of CHicago. You are a white male living in California, for heaven's sakes!!!

So what? You have labelled her a racist for what she said? For heaven's sakes man! The inner city kids in Chicago ARE killing each other! There are rival gangs just looking for a reason to take a shot at one another, drive by shootings, innocent children dying from stray bullets while sitting inside their homes! Don't you listen to the TV news or read a newspaper?????
quote:

ORIGINAL: Nosathro


quote:

ORIGINAL: EsotericLady

I honestly don't care how you feel about the issues of this thread.
However, the statement (below) that you replied back to Liz Deluxe was COMPLETELY AND UTTERLY UNCALLED FOR AND UNNECESSARY!!! And i believe you owe her an apology!
quote:

ORIGINAL: Nosathro

Don't you have a Cross Burning to go to?

http://nation.time.com/2013/01/30/chicago-girl-who-performed-at-obamas-inauguration-killed-in-shooting/





LizDeluxe
"The young inner city folk of Chicago just want to kill each other"
I will NOT apoloize.




I do but to label young inner city kids like that in nothing but bigotry.


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RE: Chris Kyle, Navy Seal and sniper. Why did this hav... - 2/8/2013 10:21:45 AM   
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ORIGINAL: EsotericLady

My name is certainly not Taz, so I hope my comment won't be considered butting in to your question, HillWilliam.
I think it's hard to say whether violent crimes are really lower...just like saying the unemployment rate is X%.
It's all in what gets reported.

As for better reporting and media fed hysteria? By all means. One feeds the other.

quote:

ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam

Taz, is the world really more dangerous or is there better reporting and more media fed hysteria?

According the the FBI, violent crime rates in the US are lower than when we were kids but if you watch the 6 O'clock news, you'd be scared to poke your head out the door without body armor.



Not butting in at all. It's a free thread as they say. LOL. Just watch out for Wonder ummmmmmmmmmmmm Woman?

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RE: Chris Kyle, Navy Seal and sniper. Why did this hav... - 2/8/2013 10:28:47 AM   
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He kind of puts Wonder Woman into a whole different visual, doesn't he?
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Not butting in at all. It's a free thread as they say. LOL. Just watch out for Wonder ummmmmmmmmmmmm Woman?


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RE: Chris Kyle, Navy Seal and sniper. Why did this hav... - 2/8/2013 10:31:41 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam


quote:

ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

I was basing it upon my reference to a 14 year old being left home alone and how incredibly stupid it was for any parent in this day and age to do so.

But more stupid back when I was 14 and home alone. (although, I was an all-conference wrestler who was really handy with handguns, rifle and shotgun and I had a big assed shepherd with me so maybe it wasn't such a bad idea.)


Violent crime whe I was 14... 1,208,030

Violent crime now.... 1,203,564

Murder back then.... 21,460

Murder now ....14,612

Forcible rape then.... 76,390

Now.... 83,425

Robbery then... 480,700

Now... 354,396

Aggravated assault then... 629,480

Now.... 751,131

You are so right! Its much much much safer now! Forget I said anything! The mother was completely right to feel her children were absolutely safe to be left alone!

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RE: Chris Kyle, Navy Seal and sniper. Why did this hav... - 2/8/2013 10:32:40 AM   
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Well my DEEEEEEEEEARRRRRRRRR!
Get out your road atlas because I would say, given that Mz Deluxe is from the Southern area of this country?



Is that a question or a statment? (This is a queston if you don't know). I take it she as a degree in Urban Studies!

< Message edited by Nosathro -- 2/8/2013 10:34:23 AM >

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RE: Chris Kyle, Navy Seal and sniper. Why did this hav... - 2/8/2013 10:42:09 AM   
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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl


quote:

ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam


quote:

ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

I was basing it upon my reference to a 14 year old being left home alone and how incredibly stupid it was for any parent in this day and age to do so.

But more stupid back when I was 14 and home alone. (although, I was an all-conference wrestler who was really handy with handguns, rifle and shotgun and I had a big assed shepherd with me so maybe it wasn't such a bad idea.)


Violent crime whe I was 14... 1,208,030

Violent crime now.... 1,203,564

Murder back then.... 21,460

Murder now ....14,612

Forcible rape then.... 76,390

Now.... 83,425

Robbery then... 480,700

Now... 354,396

Aggravated assault then... 629,480

Now.... 751,131

You are so right! Its much much much safer now! Forget I said anything! The mother was completely right to feel her children were absolutely safe to be left alone!

So everything down per capita except rape. Wanna bet that last is due to (thank goodness) better reporting.

Still, did people feel safer when you were 14 or now? (I'm not talking you personally because face it, all teenagers are bulletproof and 10 feet tall anyway. Just ask em.)
Why are people so much more scared these days even though we are statistically safer?
Crime is down but people are scared shitless.

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RE: Chris Kyle, Navy Seal and sniper. Why did this hav... - 2/8/2013 10:42:41 AM   
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http://reason.com/blog/2012/10/30/violent-crime-rate-continues-two-decade

"Government figures released two weeks ago said that violent crime has fallen by 65 percent since 1993...."

But compared to 1993, people are scared shitless. why? sensationalism.
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Interesting..if crime is done, why are gun sale up? paranioa?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/12/14/gun-sales-2012_n_2303513.html

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RE: Chris Kyle, Navy Seal and sniper. Why did this hav... - 2/8/2013 10:45:37 AM   
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So everything down per capita except rape. Wanna bet that last is due to (thank goodness) better reporting.


Your article indicates only about half of all crimes are reported

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RE: Chris Kyle, Navy Seal and sniper. Why did this hav... - 2/8/2013 10:48:44 AM   
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So I will alleviate you of your struggle to keep up before you put a nasty snag in those tights. : )

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Nosathro

ORIGINAL: EsotericLady

Well my DEEEEEEEEEARRRRRRRRR!
Get out your road atlas because I would say, given that Mz Deluxe is from the Southern area of this country?



Is that a question or a statment? (This is a queston if you don't know). I take it she as a degree in Urban Studies!


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