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Obama Admin Gets OK to Use Drones On Americans - 2/4/2013 10:22:51 PM   
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Justice Department memo reveals legal case for drone strikes on Americans

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RE: Obama Admin Gets OK to Use Drones On Americans - 2/4/2013 11:15:50 PM   
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RE: Obama Admin Gets OK to Use Drones On Americans - 2/5/2013 1:25:00 AM   
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RE: Obama Admin Gets OK to Use Drones On Americans - 2/5/2013 1:45:07 AM   
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RE: Obama Admin Gets OK to Use Drones On Americans - 2/5/2013 5:16:52 AM   
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RE: Obama Admin Gets OK to Use Drones On Americans - 2/5/2013 5:23:35 AM   
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RE: Obama Admin Gets OK to Use Drones On Americans - 2/5/2013 5:43:47 AM   
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I dont want to kill terrorists, I want to capture all of them, put them in large buildings with giant TV's, force them to watch non stop reality tv, feed em taco bell and laxatives and prune juice, and have all the doors to the bathrooms on time locks so they unlock at random intervals for thirty seconds at a time.


Pipe in the latest trash music and spike the HVAC with pepper dust (to promote sneezing), and it'll be that much more effective.

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RE: Obama Admin Gets OK to Use Drones On Americans - 2/5/2013 5:48:24 AM   
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Since you are happy being a subject of monarchy you might have a bit of an issue with due process.



You do realise that DUE PROCESS has its BASIS in english common law dont you??
DUH

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RE: Obama Admin Gets OK to Use Drones On Americans - 2/5/2013 6:51:26 AM   
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Status: offline 		I am rather perplexed about some of the post here. Some have posted on other threads how they feel the government is taking away "their" rights, however it appears to me that these same people seem to care little if nothing about others having their right taken. If anyone had read the article, it states that a government offical can order the death of if they "believe" the person is a member of a “senior operational leaders” of al-Qaida or “an associated force even if there is no intelligence indicating they are engaged in an active plot to attack the U.S, nothing about any evidence of such. Regardless of what a US Citizen is accused of doing, the bill or rights protects him or her and as pointed out must be found guilty in a court of law by 12 peers, not some government bureacrat. The document tends continue to say this is legal under the rules of war, to my knowledge, we are not at war, Congress has yet to declare one.

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RE: Obama Admin Gets OK to Use Drones On Americans - 2/5/2013 7:04:21 AM   
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Status: offline 		I think it is in line with the wishes of the congress as expressed in the authorization to invade iraq resolution.  War on terror.



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RE: Obama Admin Gets OK to Use Drones On Americans - 2/5/2013 7:06:58 AM   
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I think it is in line with the wishes of the congress as expressed in the authorization to invade iraq resolution.  War on terror.


Do you support the authorization to invade Iraq, and the War on Terror?

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RE: Obama Admin Gets OK to Use Drones On Americans - 2/5/2013 7:07:43 AM   
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I think it is in line with the wishes of the congress as expressed in the authorization to invade iraq resolution.  War on terror.



By Law, which a lot of people are forgetting, must be declared.

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RE: Obama Admin Gets OK to Use Drones On Americans - 2/5/2013 7:18:17 AM   
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I think it is in line with the wishes of the congress as expressed in the authorization to invade iraq resolution.  War on terror.


Do you support the authorization to invade Iraq, and the War on Terror?


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RE: Obama Admin Gets OK to Use Drones On Americans - 2/5/2013 7:22:59 AM   
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I think it is in line with the wishes of the congress as expressed in the authorization to invade iraq resolution.  War on terror.



By Law, which a lot of people are forgetting, must be declared.

And when, which a lot of people are forgetting, has Obama, aka Soetoro, aka Soebarkah cared about the Law?

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RE: Obama Admin Gets OK to Use Drones On Americans - 2/5/2013 7:25:40 AM   
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I think it is in line with the wishes of the congress as expressed in the authorization to invade iraq resolution.  War on terror.


Do you support the authorization to invade Iraq, and the War on Terror?


What exactly does that have to do with it?  I do not support anything 'republicans' have done including the repeal of Glass-Stegall, the gutting of oversight agencies, the belligerent stance around the world, craven corporate capitulation and welfare,  and so on, but it is law of the land.  And this appears to be in keeping in spirit and letter with that constitutional declaration of war on terror which still stands.

And it is very disingenuous for the 'journalist' to use the secretive and whatever phrases, cuz it aint, and if it was meant to be, it is the worst kept secret in the world, since we have used drones to cakk some 30 or more al-queda terrorists since Obama was elected.





  

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RE: Obama Admin Gets OK to Use Drones On Americans - 2/5/2013 7:29:32 AM   
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I think it is in line with the wishes of the congress as expressed in the authorization to invade iraq resolution.  War on terror.



By Law, which a lot of people are forgetting, must be declared.

And when, which a lot of people are forgetting, has Obama, aka Soetoro, aka Soebarkah cared about the Law?


He has acted in a lawful and constitutional manner since he has taken office, without exception.

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RE: Obama Admin Gets OK to Use Drones On Americans - 2/5/2013 8:06:33 AM   
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"The secrecy surrounding such strikes is fast emerging as a central issue in this week’s hearing of White House counterterrorism adviser John Brennan, a key architect of the drone campaign, to be CIA director. Brennan was the first administration official to publicly acknowledge drone strikes in a speech last year, calling them “consistent with the inherent right of self-defense.”

It's amazing how inconsistent they can be regarding the concept of the right of self defense.



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RE: Obama Admin Gets OK to Use Drones On Americans - 2/5/2013 8:11:58 AM   
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RE: Obama Admin Gets OK to Use Drones On Americans - 2/5/2013 8:22:18 AM   
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Status: offline 		Public Laws 107-40 and 107-243 were bestowed upon us by the teabagger congress, but now they are against it after they were for it.

Seems to me that it is the ineptitude of congress should be at issue here.

Cuz them teabaggers are fuckin USELESS and INEPT.

Them imbecilic teabaggers and their unintended consequences, hah?

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RE: Obama Admin Gets OK to Use Drones On Americans - 2/5/2013 8:43:10 AM   
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From the article:

"The secrecy surrounding such strikes is fast emerging as a central issue in this week’s hearing of White House counterterrorism adviser John Brennan, a key architect of the drone campaign, to be CIA director. Brennan was the first administration official to publicly acknowledge drone strikes in a speech last year, calling them “consistent with the inherent right of self-defense.”

It's amazing how inconsistent they can be regarding the concept of the right of self defense.




It is my understanding that the drones are operated by the CIA.

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