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BamaD -> RE: Collateral murder (2/15/2013 9:55:33 AM)
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ORIGINAL: MrRodgers
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ORIGINAL: Zonie63
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ORIGINAL: Politesub53
No offence taken Butch. I fully get your point.
I`m not sure some of the crap spouted by neocons actually helps others understand American policy though. I also think some people, both inside and outside the US, wonder about a hidden agenda sometimes. If you take Afghanistan, it seems the US is doing its best to ensure its own man stays in power. The rigging of the 2009 election was shameful so it hardly appears to the average Afghan that the west is, as claimed, trying to bring democracy to the country. Even if we were I am unsure it would work as they have a history of using a totally different political system.
I have always supported the invasion of Afghanistan in pursuit of AQ, but they are long gone from the area. I was shocked though to see that money was put aside for the CIA to destabalise the Taliban a week prior to 9/11. Thats an example of what I mean by hidden agendas.
I'm not sure about any hidden agendas. It could be, but I think that would imply some sort of centralized conspiracy which seems unlikely (although anything is possible). I think the CIA does what it does because that's what they used to do during the Cold War. It seems more analogous to a supercomputer program that someone forgot to turn off (or upgrade). If there is a hidden agenda, then that would imply that someone competent is actually in charge of this mess.
A little refesher course. Al-Q... was never 'based' in Afghan. And you must know this.....
The Taliban however, was. Look kinkroids, OBL wanted to 'hit' the US. The Taliban did NOT !! The Taliban wanted bring down Islamic govts. in bed with the west.
OBL asked them if he could recruit from its members. The Taliban needing his money...agreed. OBL got 2. That's right cybersluts, TWO men is all OBL was able to recruit. That was the re-birth of what ?
Al-Quada...believe it or not, the term Al-Quada was brought out of mothballs by the CIA to give the world or 'put a face' on our attackers.
The real story: Here
An 'agency' created before history and brought back straight out of the CIA disinformation playbook. Got it ?
"Before Sept 11, 2001, you could hardly find a mention of Al-Qaeda in the US Media. But, immediately after the dramatic attacks both the electronic and print Media began to speak of this hitherto almost unknown entity with such deep knowledge and understanding as if their reporters had been tracking and covering it for years. A classic example of this publicity was the “Special Report” in Time, Nov 12, 2001, that was spread over more than two-thirds of the magazine, whose blazing cover title was, “INSIDE THE AL-QAEDA—Bin Laden’s Web of Terror.”
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"The report was mum on how Al-Qaeda had so smoothly overcome all the insurmountable odds and so utterly disabled the US national security agencies and authorities, and had hijacked four American airliners and smashed three of them into most high profile buildings in broad daylight. It gave no explanation how Time had gathered such encyclopedic knowledge of Al-Qaeda so soon after 9/11 ? The report was silent on many publicly known facts. It hid the fact that it was CIA that had picked up Osama and initiated him (through the Saudi Intelligence) into the anti-Soviet Afghan Jihad."
"Al-Qaeda had to be shown as having all the power and resources for committing the most terrible acts at the global level. Otherwise, how could it be a big and dreadful enough threat to the World or a worthy enough combatant for the world’s superpower to battle with?
The real mischief is, Al-Qaeda can actually be invested with the alleged great capabilities, because it is a Wing of Mossad! The vast capabilities attributed to Al-Qaeda are those of Mossad, which has worldwide tentacles and can deploy biological, chemical and nuclear weapons. Let the world’s masses, more so the Muslims, and among them especially the religious, comprehend this frightful reality."
"Al-Qaeda is Jewish Agency’s Child
The terror gangs that came to be known as Al-Qaeda were formed in the early 1930s by the Jewish Agency (JA) for a dreadful purpose. Established in 1929 in Jerusalem as an arm of WZO, the JA was to function as a ‘government-in- being’ for the future Zionist state. One of its tasks was to expel the Palestinians from Palestine and to compel the large numbers of Jews living in and around the Middle East to immigrate to Palestine to increase its Jewish population."
Americans are figuratively...lemmings being led as the power proxy for Israel and the world-wide banking/trading cartel..
I don't remember if you were in that thread but you don't believe in the holocost do you?
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