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This study has been proven time & again to be COMPLETE CRAP!! No data ihas ever been provided to verify even one claim. Sadly its the "study" commonly used for hate legislation. Hate the deed not the breed. New study published in 2010 actually found Lab & chihuahua to be most common biters.
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I hate to blame a breed, but the stats are pretty proven. This is from a 30 year study jlf, unlike your with a small sampling of 1000 dogs. Pit bulls are in fact far more violent...I mean really do you see drug dealers out walking labradors? Right. There is a reason they are chosen by those types of people, for nefarious reasons. I feel badly for them, and working in the shelter, I have met some beautiful ones, but even the ones with the seemingly moderate temperament, I don't ever ever take home and foster for a weekend like I do with almost any of the other dogs, because I have seen how unpredictable they are around smaller animals at times and certain strangers will trigger them to, for example males, and if you don't know ahead of time it's potentially a very dangerous situation.
http://www.dogsbite.org/dog-bite-statistics-study-dog-attacks-and-maimings-merritt-clifton.php
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The combination of large breeds, including pit bulls, rottweilers, presa canarios, cane corsos, mastiffs, dogo argentinos, fila brasieros, and their mixes:
79% of attacks that induce bodily harm
72% of attacks to children
85% of attack to adults
69% of attacks that result in fatalities
77% that result in maiming
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Even if the pit bull category was "split four ways," attacks by pit bulls and their closest relatives would still outnumber attacks by any other breed.
Pit bulls are noteworthy for attacking adults almost as frequently as children. This is a very rare pattern, only seen elsewhere in the bullmastiff/presa canario line.
If a pit bull or rottweiler has a bad moment, instead of being bitten, often someone is maimed or killed; that has now created off-the-chart actuarial risk.
Since we are quoting Dogsbyte.org
http://dogsbyte.org/2012/04/29/pit-bull-heroes/
That is not the site we are quoting, we are quoting this site, Dogsbite.org
Oh that site? It's run by some crazy person who has a vendetta against pitbulls. They advocate heavily for the ban and destruction of pitbulls. Half the time they just try to stir up hysteria. They try to bully (ironic huh, since they hate bully breeds) their way into legislation. That site is a JOKE.
I have to say I have very little respect for someone who actively advocates for BSL. Ignorance and stupidity can cause a lot of unnecessary fear.
And just for the record I volunteer as does my mom in an animal shelter. We have an entirely different experience with those that are in the shelter. It's been very rare in occasion that one has come in that has been unstable and vicious.
The majority of pitbull attacks that I've seen reported were where the dog was FRIENDLY to the person initially...then suddenly LAUNCHED ITSELF at the person's throat. One of My store customers, a teenage girl, had been visiting her friends and spent the day playing with their dog (the dog KNEW her), in the evening the family was sitting around the tv. The kids were sitting on the floor, it was a very peaceful situation. Suddenly the dog decided to grab the girl by the throat, tore her larynx etc. Luckily the family was able to pull the dog off, but the girl needed surgery to put her torn out throat back together. Last I saw her she still wasn't able to speak very well. Thing is, this WAS NOT a "vicious" dog, it was a FAMILY dog...and I also knew the BREEDER of that individual dog, who PRIDED himself on using only friendly ones as breedings and raising the puppies in a family environment. He felt really bad about what happened and was surprised.
Oh, and there was the old lady who was killed, sitting across from her friend who had her pitbull sitting in her lap (must have been a SMALL pitbull to be a lapdog). In the middle of the conversation the dog suddenly launched itself at her throat.
Dispite all this in the media, I used to be a PRO-pitbull advocate for nearly 2 decades...I've handled a lot of pitbulls and every one of them, even the ones I've been warned don't like strangers, has been so absolutely TICKLED PINK to see Me, a complete stranger (OMG I love you I love you be my bestest friend PLEEEEASE! wiggle wiggle wiggle) Having seen them close up eagerly wanting cuddle and play (they are a VERY extrovert breed) as many people do I too thought the sudden attacks must have SOMEHOW been provoked...
Until two pitbulls got into My metal roundpen with My beloved gelding a couple winters ago...the snow was deep with a very hard crust on top. They drove My gelding (who doesn't kick, unfortunately for him) over into the deep untrampled snow which of course he wallowed in, while they were able to run across the thick crust with ease to attack him. Thankfully hubby had come home EARLY that day, just happened to be out by the barn, and was able to drive them off before real damage was done (gelding was hurt, frightened and shivvering when I got home) I had just driven off for the mechanic's so if hubby hadn't come home early I hate to think what would have happened to My horse! Hubby told Me what happened when I got home, I was LIVID that he hadn't CAUGHT the dogs, but he said they'd "never come back"...well, they DID, an hour later...and by FUCK I caught them (I was able to lure one of them by using cutsey talk, the other snarled loudly at us like she was rabid---Really dog? This is MY HOUSE, bitch---but she finally followed her bouncing buddy into the stall I put him in). The animal control agent came to get them, RECOGNIZED them as dogs that had been brought in on numerous complaints before (including chasing a man right into his house five miles away). They'd travelled 6 MILES from another town and through 2 miles of wilderness to come "randomly" attack My horse. I told the ACO if the dogs ever came back I'd make saddle blankets from them (the snarling one was a gorgeous black and white "pinto" pattern...oh yeah, I'd skin HER, nooooo problem!).
So anyway...needless to say I started out a Pro-pitbull advocate, but by the actions of the very dogs themselves I'm now siding with the other victims.
Once again I will say that is your choice and your experience. If that's your choice simply don't own one. But don't sit here and tell me that mine should be killed because YOU had a bad experience.Or that mine is some terrible monster because you ran into a couple of bad dogs. That's not my experience. I have NEVER not ever had a bad experience with a pitbull. I'm surrounded by them. My experience with them is that they are a loving, kind, gentle breed. And honestly animal control is slacking on their job if they knew about those dogs and had previous complaints. In that particular case if those dogs were attacking other animals, the owners were irresponsible, and they were attacking people then yes, they should have been put down.
A large poodle tried to grab my dog's throat and rip it apart.. I had a lab charge me and try to bite me and attack me. A lab attacked my mom's german shepherd and because that stupid dog was a lab it was deemed OK. But I'm not here screaming kill all the labs, kills the poodles. They are evil, Kill them all, I had a bad experience. Further more these kinds of attacks from labs etc.. aren't all that uncommon they just aren't publicized nearly as much.
I'm sorry YOU had a bad experience, but not all pits are like that. Just like not all horses, pigs, goats, people etc.. are the same. You can't expect all dogs to act the same way. It's not a production line, where every sample is that same. It's not just a matter of genetics or just a matter of how people treat these dogs. It's a combination of things and honestly some times you just get a bad dog. It's a simple as that. No breed is immune and to say that a specific breed is, is downright ridiculous.
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