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is he the right master for me? - 2/17/2013 10:43:47 PM   
sumissivegirl20


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have been searching for a master for a short time most men see me as just sex I want a serious master/sub relationship
I have been chatting with two different doma they both ask for the same from me but have two different lifestyle how would I know which one is the one for me?
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RE: is he the right master for me? - 2/17/2013 11:15:21 PM   
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How have you known in the past if someone was right for you?


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RE: is he the right master for me? - 2/17/2013 11:21:51 PM   
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If there were no kink involved, which of these men would you date?

Are there any 'must haves' on your kink list that only one of these guys can offer?

Do either of these men want something that you are not prepared to give?

It could be that only one of these men is the one you're looking for. It could be that either of them would suit you just as well. It could be that neither of them is what you need.

We really don't know which is best for you - that's something you're going to have to decide for yourself.

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RE: is he the right master for me? - 2/18/2013 3:02:06 AM   
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Okay. Your pics show you to be gorgeous, and you're open to poly and willing to relocate. In other words, there are an incredible number of people looking for just you.

Go with someone who is interested in what makes you tick. Why you became a dancer, and what it means to you. What you get out of being a sub. What your plans for the future are. Etc.

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RE: is he the right master for me? - 2/18/2013 4:25:54 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: sumissivegirl20

have been searching for a master for a short time most men see me as just sex I want a serious master/sub relationship
I have been chatting with two different doma they both ask for the same from me but have two different lifestyle how would I know which one is the one for me?


Go out on a few good old-fashioned dates. Get to know them as people. 98% of being compatible as Master/slave comes from being compatible as human beings.

Remember - No matter how great the kinky stuff is, the majority of your time together will be spend doing mundane things. Grocery shopping, watching TV, eating, cleaning the house, visiting parents. So you must enjoy being with each other.

You need to find someone who cares about you as a person. Someone who will not put you in danger - who won't risk you getting arrested by having you strip naked at a rest stop, who won't think it's ok to leave you tied up in the house alone, someone who won't expect you to wear slutty clothes and ballet boots when you go see Grandma in the nursing home.

A good rule of thumb is this: do not give someone a level of power greater than their investment in your life. As in - they shouldn't have the power to make career decisions unless they're going to financially support you if you lose your job.

TAKE YOUR TIME

D/s and M/s relationships are hard work. If you want to make it work you must put in the time to get to know each other. You should run away from anyone who wants instant submission or immediate commitment - you wouldn't agree on the first date to marry someone, right? So don't agree to become a slave.

Look for someone who is realistic. Someone who understands that rules might need to be adapted to fit in with real life. Who knows that what has worked for a past relationship might not work for this. Who knows that both of you need to learn about each other, about techniques, and about how dominance and submission affects you emotionally. It will take some time to figure out if you do best with micromanagement or more independence, punishments or no punishments, protocol or more relaxed atmosphere. I'd steer well clear of anyone who says 'it will work exactly this way from day one'. Stay away from anyone who won't discuss your concerns.

So figure out which one interests you most. Then slowly get to know them. Don't jump into obeying right away. Once you feel that he's a decent guy and there's some chemistry, start slowly. Try something, talk about it, talk some more, decide whether you need to adjust it, try that out, talk about it.... and so on, for the rest of your time together. Build up to it.

Make a list of things you want in a relationship. Divide it into two columns - 'I absolutely need this to be happy' and 'this would be nice'. Look for someone who hits everything in column one. Don't compromise on that stuff no matter how exciting the sex. Column two, just hit as many things as possible.

Remember that if someone is going to make all your decisions for you, you'd better find someone who shares similar life dreams and morals to you. Bad idea if you never want kids and he's hoping for a football team, or if he's into recreational drugs and you think that's wrong.

Also make a list of red-flags for yourself. Mine include:
- treats service people badly - shows a lack of consideration for others
- makes poor money decisions - because you don't wanna get lumbered with someone's debts
- tries to push you into doing things before you're ready - if he doesn't respect your limits to begin with, he sure as hell won't when you're tied up and have no choice.

Short version : just get to know him. There are no short cuts. If they are decent guys they won't mind you taking the time to find out about their lifestyles and see if it might work for you. If they're not, you don't wanna submit to them.

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RE: is he the right master for me? - 2/18/2013 4:46:08 AM   
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I have never really understood why people think that a kink relationship is something you can just walk into.
In many ways, it's much harder than a vanilla one because you have both aspects to think about.


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RE: is he the right master for me? - 2/18/2013 4:48:52 AM   
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Great Post Athena.. though reading her profile and journal, I would never contact her... Either English is not her native language or she needs some English lessons.. you know what they say about if it sounds too good to be true...

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RE: is he the right master for me? - 2/18/2013 6:04:42 AM   
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Hmmm

For someone who is new, you have some pretty kinky leather and kinky photos. Where'd all that come from? How do you know whether you like pain? How do you know whether you like humuliation?

You live for writing? With THAT profile?
You live for psychology and have to ask how to choose between men?
You live for spanking, and uniforms, and Gor, and Lifestyle, and orgasm control, and obedience training, and chastity and eye contact restrictions.. you LIVE for these things, but .... you're new to BDSM.


I'll take "What's an Ad in Sheep's clothing, Alex" for the Daily Double.

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RE: is he the right master for me? - 2/18/2013 6:50:07 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: evesgrden

Hmmm

For someone who is new, you have some pretty kinky leather and kinky photos. Where'd all that come from? How do you know whether you like pain? How do you know whether you like humuliation?

You live for writing? With THAT profile?
You live for psychology and have to ask how to choose between men?
You live for spanking, and uniforms, and Gor, and Lifestyle, and orgasm control, and obedience training, and chastity and eye contact restrictions.. you LIVE for these things, but .... you're new to BDSM.


I'll take "What's an Ad in Sheep's clothing, Alex" for the Daily Double.



And I'll add that she says in the profile that she's got to choose who to give her lifetime commitment to? Really? It also seems that she's not met either of the men in question, but chatted on the phone and through email. The OP joined on 2/11/13 and is already considering lifetime commitments? Wow.

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RE: is he the right master for me? - 2/18/2013 7:58:46 AM   
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Twenty and an expert in 1950s household.  Fixes steak, potatoes, and salad for breakfast.  Read 2 profiles yesterday out of many and needs to make a lifetime decision today.  I'm rather stunned. 


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RE: is he the right master for me? - 2/18/2013 8:05:58 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: SinFix
reading her profile and journal, I would never contact her... Either English is not her native language or she needs some English lessons.. you know what they say about if it sounds too good to be true...



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RE: is he the right master for me? - 2/18/2013 9:00:46 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: lizi

And I'll add that she says in the profile that she's got to choose who to give her lifetime commitment to? Really? It also seems that she's not met either of the men in question, but chatted on the phone and through email. The OP joined on 2/11/13 and is already considering lifetime commitments? Wow.


This....in spades.....

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RE: is he the right master for me? - 2/18/2013 11:31:45 AM   
LafayetteLady


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Yet she wonders why they are only interested in her for sex...

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RE: is he the right master for me? - 2/18/2013 3:27:07 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: AthenaSurrenders

do not give someone a level of power greater than their investment in your life.



This quote really hit home for me. Too often, I'm focused on how to attract & please a potential partner that I'm slow to realize he isn't putting any effort (investment) back into me. A good reminder not to get too excited too soon.

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RE: is he the right master for me? - 2/18/2013 3:42:35 PM   
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I've noticed for a long time that a large number of submissives view a collar like it's a trophy. They want it to happen so bad that they lose sight of the fact that this is a relationship. It's the equivalent of getting married because you want a ring. Because of that attitude, they end up going from relationship to relationship and struggling to find happiness.

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RE: is he the right master for me? - 2/18/2013 4:26:14 PM   
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Sweetie - there is no reason for you to choose either of the fellows that you are talking to.

You need to meet both men and decide which if either of them you like, and can make a relationship. You need to bear in mind that sex is about 1% of a relationship - and the rest of it is just the two of you together. If you don't like him out of bed then it isn't going to work.

I would suggest that you need to slow down and do a search for "sub frenzy", then consider if this is what is spurring you to choose between two men that you haven't even met yet.

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RE: is he the right master for me? - 2/18/2013 4:44:26 PM   
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You admit that you are new, so really anything BDSM related you shouldn't be an expert at, and you also shouldn't have it as a "lives for" or "loves" interest You haven't enough experience to know those things yet.

I'm not going to say you are gorgeous because I was only able to view one picture and it doesn't include your face. However, you have a photo that is definitely going to attract men looking for sex. It is your body (which is well shaped) in fetish wear. That kind of screams, "I'm looking to get laid."

You haven't met either of these men, so you shouldn't even be considering a lifetime commitment. Hell, even after meeting them, you should not agree to a "lifetime" commitment until you have spend some very significant time with them. Let me ask you a question....What is the longest you have been involved in a relationship with someone? Intimately, so not your family, lol. (at least I hope not!). Didn't you take time to get to know each other? Same thing applies here.

Meet these guys, talk with them about VANILLA things...what you each do for a living, hobbies, favorite music and movies. What are your and his goals in life? If you like all those answers, then go on a second date and talk some more.

Another piece of very important advice. Do NOT make a commitment to anyone you haven't met in person (aside from scheduling that first meeting). Do meet in a public place with a well lit parking lot. Do not get in his car or allow him to get into yours (actually don't even let him see your car in case he is a stalker). Do NOT follow any orders on what to wear to that date, unless it is some particular color so he can recognize you. Do NOT play on this first date.

Most of that is simply basic protocol for any blind date in the vanilla world. It still applies to kinky dates.

Take your time, remember that until YOU say otherwise, you and these men are equals and they have no right to order you to do anything or make demands.

Oh, and as to which you should choose....wait until you meet them.

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RE: is he the right master for me? - 2/18/2013 4:45:29 PM   
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thank you for all comments an dto those commenting about the way I write I said I was new to the BDSM lifestyle but my past trelationships were just me being submissive no im not a expert that is just a questionnaire that I filled out on my page wjhen I first got it.Second the outfits that I choose to wear is my business I am a exotic dancer so if I choose to wear that then I believe I Can.I am real rather its to good to be true with the things that I have to say also I am a law student with a minor in phsychology.thanks again for the comments good or bad.
ha

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RE: is he the right master for me? - 2/18/2013 4:50:09 PM   
sumissivegirl20


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and also there would be no reason to contact me because Im only searching for doms I dont respond back to subs interested for me to meet there master.I feel if there master likes me then they will write to me thereselves.

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RE: is he the right master for me? - 2/18/2013 5:04:56 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: sumissivegirl20

thank you for all comments an dto those commenting about the way I write I said I was new to the BDSM lifestyle but my past trelationships were just me being submissive no im not a expert that is just a questionnaire that I filled out on my page wjhen I first got it.Second the outfits that I choose to wear is my business I am a exotic dancer so if I choose to wear that then I believe I Can.I am real rather its to good to be true with the things that I have to say also I am a law student with a minor in phsychology.thanks again for the comments good or bad.
ha

It's a good thing psychology is your minor----

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