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ORIGINAL: LadyPact

One of the best exchanges from the movie "When Harry Met Sally".

Harry: I think they have an OK time.
Sally: How do you know?
Harry: What do you mean how do I know? I know.
Sally: Because they...
Harry: Yes, because they...
Sally: And how do you know that they really...
Harry: What are you saying, that they fake orgasm?
Sally: It's possible.
Harry: Get outta here!
Sally: Why? Most women at one time or another have faked it.
Harry: Well they haven't faked it with me.
Sally: How do you know?
Harry: Because I know.
Sally: Oh, right, that's right, I forgot, you're a man.
Harry: What is that supposed to mean?
Sally: Nothing. It's just that all men are sure it never happened to them and that most women at one time or another have done it so you do the math.
Harry: You don't think that I could tell the difference?
Sally: No.
Harry: Get outta here.
[Sally begins to fake an orgasm]
Harry: Are you OK?
[Sally continues very audibly, attracting the attention of nearly every customer in the cafe. Afterwards, she returns to eating her dessert]
Older Woman Customer: [to waiter] I'll have what she's having.

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ORIGINAL: xssve
Yeah, I've had chicks tell me in here they haven't cumm in decades.

That's gotta be a strain.

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ORIGINAL: Kana
And the kicker, the very best part of that scene, is that the old lady at the end, the one who "want's what she's having."
Yeah, that's Director Rob Reiner's mom!

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ORIGINAL: absolutchocolat

I cum at least once a day. At least.

Most of the time, I give myself one before I start my day, and it's so strong that I fall asleep briefly. My piano is tuned quite nicely and plays sweet music. Any requests?

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ORIGINAL: xssve
Yeah, that's not an entirely new one, first time I've encountered it in here though - Christians can get pretty twisted up.

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ORIGINAL: Extravagasm
There's a female climax seldom envisaged (except in Wicca and Tantric). Let's call it the rolling (single, not multiple) orgasm.

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ORIGINAL: GotSteel
It's not just a fundamentalist thing, even in the 50's shame of female sexuality was the dominant cultural standard. Today those sentiments that a woman should be ashamed of her sexuality still linger in US culture.

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ORIGINAL: Lynnxz

I found this theory on reddit, and I rather like it. The op was discussing why women tend to be more subtle than men while flirting or dating.

Here's the thing: it's not logic. It's not like we're given a formula at age 5 that says "Meekness+batting eyelashes=Ideal woman/Romantic success." It's a long series of social cues and observations that you pick up on over YEARS.

Every time we saw a girl who was outspoken be insulted as "bossy" in kindergarten (Deborah Tannin has a great article on the use of the word "bossy" as directed towards little girls). Every time we see a woman who is outwardly angry or sad be called "crazy", "bitchy", or "PMSing". Every time I log onto Reddit and see pictures or videos of drunk flirtatious girls (Jersey Shore is a great example) called "sluts", "skanks" or "whores" for going out and being available sexually. Every time someone inevitably in those same threads says "Why can't we have REAL women, classy ones like Audrey Hepburn and Grace Kelly?", two women who (as much as I love them) were renowned for being demure and elegant and yes, SUBTLE. Any time someone says a woman who was flirting openly or wearing a short skirt deserved to be raped. Any time you're at a party and see a woman hooking up with a man be called, "disgusting" and "desperate", while the man doesn't get called anything.

It's a message we receive OVER and OVER and OVER and OVER again, and you're right that it isn't logic. It is intense cultural conditioning which gets layered into our brains and drilled in there over decades.
If you flirt too much and make yourself sexually available, you are a desperate slut. If you are loud and outspoken, you are a bossy bitch. If you are overly emotional, you are crazy and irrational. Real women are Audrey Hepburn and Grace Kelly. They had class.
And YES, there is a line between Jersey Shore and Audrey Hepburn. But to most women, that line? That comfort zone? Is going out and flirting with men in what they feel is a safe and subtle manner. Reading a lot into glances and texts and missed phone calls. Most of us don't even recognize that's why we're doing it. We just think it's a "men/women" thing.


And there you go. Men don't get called skanks and whores for flashing a bit of flesh, and men are MEN! Have to be BIG and BOLD, and LOOK AT MY DICK!

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Extravagasm post132: a female climax seldom envisaged (except in Wicca and Tantric). Let's call it the rolling (single, not multiple) orgasm.
GotSteel post134: I don't know about that, because it's immensely doable without the supernatural assertions.

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ORIGINAL: Extravagasm
As you make clear in your next post (from Lynnxz), there is still lingering stigma over female sexuality. Especially in US. So lurking, so true.

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ORIGINAL: Extravagasm
BTW As to supernatural assertions, what I tried to make clear in the rest of my post132, is that the rolling single orgasm is indeed separate from supernatural junk. I am as atheist as they come. But I introduced it that way, cause that's the only place I found it WRITTEN about.

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Well, sometimes I like to be productive, so I can't just have an earth-shattering orgasm every morning without being late to work.

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ORIGINAL: Extravagasm
Yup. When people are really getting their stuff on right, they anticipate little side effects.

Dehydration, if not considered.
Stuff on sheets (drooling's the funny part).
A drowsy time that may follow later.
Temporary stress & pain loss with new outlook.
Crazy appearance, but not to worry, Oxytocin is there.
It surprisingly draws others to you, regardless of neatness.
People say, yeah right, wish I had those problems. LOL

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ORIGINAL: Extravagasm

A nick like this should contribute to Athena's topic. There's a female climax seldom envisaged (except in Wicca and Tantric). Let's call it the rolling (single, not multiple) orgasm. One (1) goes long enough that the male can take breathers, reconnect and it intensifies unabated. I've seen and partnered it.

Generally, has to be worked toward. But a few women have the capacity organically. A partner of mine had it naturally, and we've heard of others. But most relationships I've experienced, had to develop it. Maybe it'll jell with something a member can identify with.

It's overlooked in modern culture. And this unacceptance, adds a self-fulfilling layer. Those who could . . . rarely do casually expose it, and so society continues rather uninformed. There was apparently a word 'humming' in the 1950s which may have described it. But today's urban slang has hijacked that term as a form of oral sex.

It can be a potential for women. (Pause for any scoffs and sneers.) The partner sharing it the longest number of years . . was non-orgasmic when we met.