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RE: Chavez dead... - 3/7/2013 7:37:32 AM   
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Status: offline 		Love him or hate him Chavez was a significant figure to his country, Latin America, and to many around the world.

But it is nice to see the lumpenbourgeoisie and the Europeans go on about him, their hatred of him is merely a further tribute to who he was and what he represented.

His protege is likely to win the upcoming election, but after that who can say just what will happen. One thing is certain, whatever happens in the future, the rule of the patrones running the country as an oil fief, in Venezuela is over, and Chavez was who insured that.

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RE: Chavez dead... - 3/7/2013 7:41:09 AM   
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I wish all socialist leaders would succumb to a long, painful illness.



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The above post surely has to be a nominee, if not a winner, of the 'Unintended Irony' Prize in the Posts of the Year competition.




And a few other prizes as well......a real "winner"

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RE: Chavez dead... - 3/7/2013 7:52:10 AM   
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I host minor league ballplayers. The Venezuelan kids that have lived with me think Chavez was a fucking asshole and they say that other regular people feel the same
Let's see what happens.

Is that how he got elected and re-elected?

Where did I say that the "other regular people" were a majority?

So your position is that the majority of the people in venezuea love chavez and the moronic assholes whom you host aremembers of the minority who used to run that country?


Anyone who had the cognitive ability of a 5 year old would realize that the few athletically talented people I have had the good fortune to meet don't speak for the masses.
One would also think that you of all people would be past the racism of assuming that someone is a member of a 'minority' for the simple fact of their political beliefs.
May I assume that you are unaware of the fact that major league baseball teams don't draft people based on the political beliefs of their ancestors.

I daresay that someone who has spent the first 19 years of their life in a country would know a hell of a lot more about the place than someone who claims to live off the grid and smoke pot in bumfuck California.

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RE: Chavez dead... - 3/7/2013 8:06:31 AM   
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I host minor league ballplayers. The Venezuelan kids that have lived with me think Chavez was a fucking asshole and they say that other regular people feel the same
Let's see what happens.

Is that how he got elected and re-elected?

Where did I say that the "other regular people" were a majority?

So your position is that the majority of the people in venezuea love chavez and the moronic assholes whom you host aremembers of the minority who used to run that country?


Anyone who had the cognitive ability of a 5 year old would realize that the few athletically talented people I have had the good fortune to meet don't speak for the masses.
One would also think that you of all people would be past the racism of assuming that someone is a member of a 'minority' for the simple fact of their political beliefs.
May I assume that you are unaware of the fact that major league baseball teams don't draft people based on the political beliefs of their ancestors.

I daresay that someone who has spent the first 19 years of their life in a country would know a hell of a lot more about the place than someone who claims to live off the grid and smoke pot in bumfuck California.

So your position is that the majority of the people in venezuea love chavez and the moronic assholes whom you host are members of the minority who used to run that country?

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RE: Chavez dead... - 3/7/2013 8:16:51 AM   
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I host minor league ballplayers. The Venezuelan kids that have lived with me think Chavez was a fucking asshole and they say that other regular people feel the same
Let's see what happens.

Is that how he got elected and re-elected?

Where did I say that the "other regular people" were a majority?

So your position is that the majority of the people in venezuea love chavez and the moronic assholes whom you host aremembers of the minority who used to run that country?


Anyone who had the cognitive ability of a 5 year old would realize that the few athletically talented people I have had the good fortune to meet don't speak for the masses.
One would also think that you of all people would be past the racism of assuming that someone is a member of a 'minority' for the simple fact of their political beliefs.
May I assume that you are unaware of the fact that major league baseball teams don't draft people based on the political beliefs of their ancestors.

I daresay that someone who has spent the first 19 years of their life in a country would know a hell of a lot more about the place than someone who claims to live off the grid and smoke pot in bumfuck California.

So your position is that the majority of the people in venezuea love chavez and the moronic assholes whom you host are members of the minority who used to run that country?


Well...he did win an election that was cleaner than the ones we hold.So he had to have been liked be somebody.




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RE: Chavez dead... - 3/7/2013 8:19:10 AM   
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So your position is that the majority of the people in venezuea love chavez and the moronic assholes whom you host are members of the minority who used to run that country?

No, my position is that if that is what you read from my post, your reading comprehension is sorely lacking.

May I assume that your position is that anyone who disagreed with Chavez must belong to a certain 'minority group"?

I thought racist posts weren't allowed.

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RE: Chavez dead... - 3/7/2013 8:28:10 AM   
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Well...he did win an election that was cleaner than the ones we hold.So he had to have been liked be somebody.




http://www.laht.com/article.asp?ArticleId=344531&CategoryId=10717
So we arrest the opposition and confiscate their property?

Owner. Have you ever met anyone from that country?

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RE: Chavez dead... - 3/7/2013 8:30:12 AM   
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So your position is that the majority of the people in venezuea love chavez and the moronic assholes whom you host are members of the minority who used to run that country?

No, my position is that if that is what you read from my post, your reading comprehension is sorely lacking.

May I assume that your position is that anyone who disagreed with Chavez must belong to a certain 'minority group"?

I thought racist posts weren't allowed.


The minority group we are speaking of here is the oligarchy that ruled venezuela for a couple of hundred years. To conflate that minority with racism is beyond stupid.

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RE: Chavez dead... - 3/7/2013 8:36:47 AM   
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So your position is that the majority of the people in venezuea love chavez and the moronic assholes whom you host are members of the minority who used to run that country?

No, my position is that if that is what you read from my post, your reading comprehension is sorely lacking.

May I assume that your position is that anyone who disagreed with Chavez must belong to a certain 'minority group"?

I thought racist posts weren't allowed.


The minority group we are speaking of here is the oligarchy that ruled venezuela for a couple of hundred years. To conflate that minority with racism is beyond stupid.

If you mean oligarchy, say oligarchy. You said "minority".
To not assume that the word 'minority' has to do with race is beyond stupid


You still havent answered my question about whether you believe that major league ball clubs draft based on the politics and wealth of a person's ancestory.
To believe that is also beyond stupid.

I'll let you in on a secret. Someone who is willing to come to a foreign country and play ball for a net salary of less than $250/week is far from an oligarch.

Have you ever met anyone from Venezuela?

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RE: Chavez dead... - 3/7/2013 8:56:20 AM   
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If you mean oligarchy, say oligarchy. You said "minority".
To not assume that the word 'minority' has to do with race is beyond stupid

Only to those who cannot understand english


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You still havent answered my question about whether you believe that major league ball clubs draft based on the politics and wealth of a person's ancestory.
To believe that is also beyond stupid.


common sense should answer your bullshit question.

[quote[I'll let you in on a secret. Someone who is willing to come to a foreign country and play ball for a net salary of less than $250/week is far from an oligarch.
Your boys work for less than minimum wage???

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Have you ever met anyone from Venezuela?


Yes

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RE: Chavez dead... - 3/7/2013 9:18:21 AM   
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If you mean oligarchy, say oligarchy. You said "minority".
To not assume that the word 'minority' has to do with race is beyond stupid

Only to those who cannot understand english


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You still havent answered my question about whether you believe that major league ball clubs draft based on the politics and wealth of a person's ancestory.
To believe that is also beyond stupid.


common sense should answer your bullshit question.

[quote[I'll let you in on a secret. Someone who is willing to come to a foreign country and play ball for a net salary of less than $250/week is far from an oligarch.

Your boys work for less than minimum wage???

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Have you ever met anyone from Venezuela?


Yes

To answer your questions
Only those who cannot understand english would say "minority" when they meant "oligarchy".

As for my "bullshit question" May I assume you don't have common sense as you have twice refused to answer it?
Again, do major league teams draft players based on how much money their ancestors made or is your assumption that were part of the "oligarchy" so much asswipe?

The minimum wage answer is that yes they apparently do.
They play 71 games in 68 days in short season A ball.
3 days a week when on a homestand, they start at about 10 AM with a trip to the gym. Home by noon for lunch. At 3, they report to the ball park for practice unless they are the starting pitcher that day. Starters don't have to report until 5. Gametime is 7. Game is over about 10.
For away games, they have to be at the park at 10 AM or 5 PM depending on how far away the game is to catch the bus.
I've taken them to cash their paycheck. After taxes, they net about $475/2 weeks.

Of that, several of them still manage to send a C note home to Venezuela or Dominica occasionally

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RE: Chavez dead... - 3/7/2013 9:25:08 AM   
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To answer your questions
Only those who cannot understand english would say "minority" when they meant "oligarchy".


Your position seems to be that the oligarghy was not a minority a position that is not born out by either history or english grammar.

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RE: Chavez dead... - 3/7/2013 9:30:20 AM   
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As for my "bullshit question" May I assume you don't have common sense as you have twice refused to answer it?
Again, do major league teams draft players based on how much money their ancestors made or is your assumption that were part of the "oligarchy" so much asswipe?


So your position is that the majority of the people in venezuea love chavez and the moronic assholes whom you host are members of the minority who used to run that country?
How does the above staement imply that your "boyz"are not talented atheletes?

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RE: Chavez dead... - 3/7/2013 9:32:20 AM   
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To answer your questions
Only those who cannot understand english would say "minority" when they meant "oligarchy".


Your position seems to be that the oligarghy was not a minority a position that is not born out by either history or english grammar.

Once again, your comprehension of language is lacking.
If you mean a word, say it. If you use words that don;t mean what you say, people will assume you aren't quite up to par in the vocabulary department.

For the 4th time.
Do you believe that major league ball teams draft according to the wealth of one's ancestors or is your assumption that the players were part of that "oligarchy" pure unfounded asswipe?

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RE: Chavez dead... - 3/7/2013 9:32:22 AM   
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RE: Chavez dead... - 3/7/2013 9:39:32 AM   
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As for my "bullshit question" May I assume you don't have common sense as you have twice refused to answer it?
Again, do major league teams draft players based on how much money their ancestors made or is your assumption that were part of the "oligarchy" so much asswipe?


So your position is that the majority of the people in venezuea love chavez and the moronic assholes whom you host are members of the minority who used to run that country?
How does the above staement imply that your "boyz"are not talented atheletes?


No, once again, my position is that draft order has nothing to do with whether someone or there ancestors is or were part of a 'class'. Therefore, due to the fact that it was a "minority" running the country, the possibility that their ancestors were part of that is vanishingly small and your statement is utter illiterate asswipe.

Once again, my position is that people don't vote for someone because they "Love" someone and only a moron would believe that they do.

May I assume that you believe the reason Obama won last November is because you believe a majority of the people in the US love him?

May I assume that you believe that the reason Bush beat Gore was that a majority of the people in the US love him and the rest were "moronic assholes"?

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RE: Chavez dead... - 3/7/2013 4:21:05 PM   
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Yeah but nothing like the grand tourist and trade relationship The United States will have with Free Market Cuba a year or two after El Jefe kicks the bucket.


If there is any justice in the universe, and I'm not sure there is, then yes, there should be a hell of a boost to our relations when that day comes. Hell, it should happen anyway, Castro or not.


We should have been traveling to Cuba 30 years ago.

If for no other reason than to show them there are alternatives.

Ours may not ultimately be the best of available choices but...there are alternatives.


For those who are unaware of history it was our alternative that they threw out.



Exactly who are the "They"?

Exactly how long do you think Castro would have lasted if he hadn't denied the Cuban People of Liberty and Freedom?

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RE: Chavez dead... - 3/7/2013 4:29:51 PM   
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RE: Chavez dead... - 3/7/2013 4:33:44 PM   
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Exactly how long do you think Castro would have lasted if he hadn't denied the Cuban People of Liberty and Freedom?

After this guy?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fulgencio_Batista

A long time. (assuming the US didn't send in the Marines to depose him)

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RE: Chavez dead... - 3/7/2013 8:36:42 PM   
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