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RE: Slave Relocateme Scams - 3/26/2013 12:39:44 AM

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This thread is a riot. If anything, it's giving me some story ideas I wouldn't have had a week ago. Years ago (2003), I was on another site for a very short time, and the same sh*t was going down. It's an old game though, isn't it? It's the perfect scam, they don't have to worry about being busted for interstate wire fraud because the complainant would have to admit to conspiring to commit an illegal act in order to file a complaint.

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RE: Slave Relocateme Scams - 3/26/2013 1:41:57 AM

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ORIGINAL: KinkyCalifornia

Wow, this has been very entertaining to read the rebuttals. Ow, nasty stuff. My butt is all red for sure (metaphorically speaking).

Please note:

1) there are quite a bit of slave relocation attempts going on (with success at various times.) Sorry, that is a fact.

And? The site already tells you this and has had it posted for years. Why is this "new"?

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2) Too many of you women are offended that I want a woman who is truly HWP. That is my right. If you are overweight, it's not fair that you're offended.

Why would you assume this? As a Dominant woman, I honestly don't give a f*ck what you want.

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3) Any of you writing and publishing BDSM books? I welcome you to do that. There is a market for your books. If I can you can.

I admit that I'm not. The only way I would consider doing so would be if I honestly felt it was worthwhile from a non-fiction standpoint. I'm far more interested in completing My Master's manual.

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4) Getting to stand out to a sought-after perspective slave is tough. I was trying in any manner I could. I and others I know have actually have had positive experiences with slave relocation in the past, though it was not from across the country but a lot closer. From experience it seems to me that it takes money. There are slaves that are broke right now and need money, plus they want to relocate ASAP, which takes money. That is the problem. You buy them the ticket to travel and maybe they will show up or not.

How many sides of your mouth do you have? You are such a successful author that this shouldn't be a problem. Shouldn't the royalties be rolling in? Oddly enough, I've never heard Jay, John, or Jack complain that being a serious author hindered their quests.

I'll bet there are folks at your local homeless shelter that would be happy with food and a roof, too. Probably a better bet than what you seem to have fallen for in the past.

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My rule of thumb is that if they won't talk to you on the phone and skype (or otherwise videoconference) with you then something is fishy. Unfortunately I ran into a number that won't do both.

Really, now, because I don't do that crap. I give people a list of places that I've been a presenter in major venues over the years. If people are too lazy to check My references, that's on them. It's easy enough these days to confirm a person's attendance at their local munch/play party and write the organizer.

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Okay trash me for writing this. I know it's coming.

If one considers a reality check trashing them, I would have to say that is the responsibility of the receiver, rather than the person giving the clue by four.

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RE: Slave Relocateme Scams - 3/26/2013 8:08:45 AM

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ORIGINAL: KinkyCalifornia
My rule of thumb is that if they won't talk to you on the phone and skype (or otherwise videoconference) with you then something is fishy. Unfortunately I ran into a number that won't do both.

My rule of thumb was that I wasn't interested in someone that wanted to start off with the assumption that I was lying and I needed to prove that I wasn't.

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RE: Slave Relocateme Scams - 3/26/2013 8:58:28 AM

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Just as a counterpoint to OsideGirl's comment, I've found that women who are interested actively want to "verify" me, either by meeting in person or by a telephone or video call. It's just so easy to misrepresent oneself in text.

Are you asking women to "verify" before they are interested in you? That's what it sounds like to me. (Or your scamdar is super off.) Maybe get the lady to the point where she's actively intrigued, and then make the suggestion?

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RE: Slave Relocateme Scams - 3/26/2013 9:20:11 AM

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I agree with this. I've found that men on here, and evidently women too, represent themselves pretty "creatively". If I am interested in the person from messaging, I want us both to verify quite early on. If it is a stranger messaging me with no level of interest established, I won't verify for him and am not interested in him verifying for me.

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RE: Slave Relocateme Scams - 3/26/2013 9:36:20 AM

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ORIGINAL: RedMagic1

Just as a counterpoint to OsideGirl's comment, I've found that women who are interested actively want to "verify" me, either by meeting in person or by a telephone or video call. It's just so easy to misrepresent oneself in text.

Are you asking women to "verify" before they are interested in you? That's what it sounds like to me. (Or your scamdar is super off.) Maybe get the lady to the point where she's actively intrigued, and then make the suggestion?

That's true as well. I was usually willing to meet in person within about a week, if I was interested in that person, at which point I would be willing to talk on the phone. But, I'm not going to prove myself simply to have a conversation.

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RE: Slave Relocateme Scams - 3/27/2013 2:22:23 AM

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I'm sick and tired of slaves these days.

Wanting to be relocated.

And to think, back in '07, the wasn't even slaves.

I would absolutely, cut off my dick for a good slave.

ok, not really, but I might be talked into keeping in my pants.

for a while.

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RE: Slave Relocateme Scams - 3/27/2013 5:00:36 AM

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omg this is too funny, well funnier than the OP profile that was just plain boring i would be asleep over that breast massage let alone anything else. god damn i'm going to write me a book and see who will relocate me.....do i hear any offers peeps?????

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RE: Slave Relocateme Scams - 3/27/2013 5:12:07 PM

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ORIGINAL: KinkyCalifornia

I'm looking to meet a female slave online and if we're compatible relocate her to live with me. In this continuing quest I have found out the hard way that folks looking to do just that, open themselves up to scams. Here are my experiences:

1) I am contacted through a site or instant messaging service by "slaves" that love my profile, love me and are ready to come to me now. "She" (or whoever it is) needs money for gas to drive over and conveniently they are far away. Of course they don't have a working phone (or the phone connection is oddly bad,) but can text.

2) Calling via the phone and videoconferencing, such as using Skype, is a big problem for so many of these perspective relocation slaves. There are always excuses as to why they can't call or videoconference.

3) The slaves want the bus, train or plane ticket for travelling to me, to be bought on their end and thus they want me to send them cash for that. (Bad idea.) It's best to buy it yourself and put her down as the person travelling.

4) Of course they're broke now so they need money to tide them over. (This could however be a legitimate problem.)

Anybody else have any experiences they'd like to share? Thank you.

I just read excerpts from two of your books "funniest BDSM ads" and "hilarious kink ads" or some such.

Can I just ask one thing?

After reading same (usually "excerpts", like movie trailers....are the really good shit) I'm wondering....when does hilarity ensue?

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RE: Slave Relocateme Scams - 3/28/2013 8:45:21 PM

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Hi everybody. Me again. I'll let you know if I have luck relocating a good female slave. I'm still working at it but have good coals in the fire, so to speak. (I hope good but I've been here before only to be let down.) My standards are high which has made it tougher for me.

1) In terms of the writing, I believe I read one or more women posting sarcasm about my extreme pleasure breast massage books. Sorry, but you will enjoy that breast massage a lot. Any of you that berate it, don't understand it. I and others have researched it and 90% of you ladies will love it, that's right love it. If you say otherwise you should not be taken seriously. Actually if anything you should be glad to have heard about it, assuming you know what it is and/or didn't know about it already.

2) There is not that much money in these self-published books, almost all of which I have priced at $2.99 due to so much competition. I make roughly $2.00 each. That is a very good percentage but I am not marketing them well I guess as most of my books only sell 5-7 or so copies on average a month.

3) Hey everybody, I may have a date with a local female slave this weekend (last I heard.) Maybe I won't need to relocate a slave after all!

4) Looking to self-publish a book? It's never been easier. Check out Amazon's createspace.com, (it's for hardcopy books, audio books, etc. but not ebooks). You can then easily transfer those hardcopy files you made for createspace.com, thanks to a link they provide, to Amazon's Kindle (ebooks). Take the hardcopy cover you made with createspace's cover creator, enlarge it at reshade.com (or somewhere else) and put in your Barnes and Noble www.pubit.com account for Barnes and Noble ebook self-publishing.

My experience though is that most of your sales are through Amazon.

Smashwords.com is a wholesaler but a pain in the butt, though still worth it. www.kobo.com is another distributor but pays only twice a year and I for one don't sell a lot through them, though I still suggest using them.

Everybody buys through Amazon including Apple's ibookstore.

Warning, don't just use your hardcopy createspace.com manuscript for your ebooks as there will be too many open spaces between pages, paragraphs, etc. Make a separate MS word copy of it with as few spaces between your paragraphs as reasonably possible. After you put your ebook up for sale, see what it looks like on it's webpage that B&N and Kindle offer it on. They each show the first 5-7%.

There is an art to making ebook manuscripts. It's even tougher to make epub files but there is one or more websites that will convert the files for not that much. (I've never used them.) Kobo automatically makes your MS word document into an epub file for free but there can still be problems if you gave them a bad manuscript to start out with.

Bookbaby.com charges you to do some or more of this stuff. I would avoid them. To pricey. Also if you have to make a professional cover (Amazon's cover creator in their createspace.com is self-service and free,) then it gets too expensive IMO. Also sometimes you can pay more than is optimal to get images for your cover. I usually use createspaces' cover creator's free images but very few are BDSM/sexually oriented, a real problem for me.

If you run into copyright free images that are 300 pixels or better (Amazon wants that) then I suggest keeping them for possible use down the road.

This has been a quickie lesson and I am still learning stuff. Good luck to all.

I'd be grateful for any fine female slave in the US looking to relocate that you'd like to send my way! Hey I'm a nice guy!

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RE: Slave Relocateme Scams - 3/28/2013 10:34:35 PM

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1) In terms of the writing, I believe I read one or more women posting sarcasm about my extreme pleasure breast massage books. Sorry, but you will enjoy that breast massage a lot. Any of you that berate it, don't understand it. I and others have researched it and 90% of you ladies will love it, that's right love it. If you say otherwise you should not be taken seriously. Actually if anything you should be glad to have heard about it, assuming you know what it is and/or didn't know about it already.

I, for one, would like to see links to that research you and mysterious 'others' are spouting about. As for your boob thingy I guarantee I will not love it, yet I assure you I'm taken VERY seriously. You touch my breasts with your cheap-ass dollar store petroleum-based crap, I kick your balls into next year, fair enough? Until you are reincarnated as a biological woman and have had some clueless dude tell you this is the be-all end-all way to orgasm in less than 5 seconds, you haven't a clue how many would like it or hate it. How many women have you actually been successful with? If there are any, I'd like to discuss this with them. Would you please ask them to join in here to sing its praises in their own words?

If I self-pub (big whoop, dude) some drivel that gives clinical instructions for sanding your balls with 10 grit sandpaper because it's the most extreme pleasure you can have, are you going to believe it? Better yet, are you going to let some clueless woman who read that idea in my book do it to you? Even better yet, are you going to pay $2.99 for such horsesh*t?

I see you have not taken one single iota of advice given here, and are charging merrily along as if the rest of the world will magically change course so you don't have to. My crystal ball says: nope. But there is hope: you can always perform your Extreme Breast Massage on your own boobs for comfort. Best of luck. And thanks again for the continuing hilarity.

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RE: Slave Relocateme Scams - 3/28/2013 11:02:20 PM

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And this, kids, is the reason they always tell you to NOT eat the mushrooms claiming to be magical AND why the ergot-infested rye you've been eyeing is a baaaaaaaad idea.

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RE: Slave Relocateme Scams - 3/29/2013 9:12:51 AM

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ORIGINAL: KinkyCalifornia
1) In terms of the writing, I believe I read one or more women posting sarcasm about my extreme pleasure breast massage books. Sorry, but you will enjoy that breast massage a lot. Any of you that berate it, don't understand it. I and others have researched it and 90% of you ladies will love it, that's right love it. If you say otherwise you should not be taken seriously. Actually if anything you should be glad to have heard about it, assuming you know what it is and/or didn't know about it already.

I hate having my breasts touched, so I'll be sure to let everyone know that I shouldn't be taken seriously.

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RE: Slave Relocateme Scams - 3/29/2013 9:17:37 AM

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A woman that hates to have her breasts touched; now that's very believable. Man there are a number of women that post here that desperately need a good spanking.

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RE: Slave Relocateme Scams - 3/29/2013 11:33:29 AM

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Have a nice day, OP.

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RE: Slave Relocateme Scams - 3/29/2013 11:36:34 AM

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I can picture the scientific study (coughcoughBULLSHITcough) that comes with testing the Extreme Breast Massage hypothesis. One group was EBM with crap ass dollar store lotion, one group was EBM with expensive lotion, one group was Meh Breast Massage, one group was the "holy shit, you suck, I can do a better job myself" breast massage, and my personal fave group is the "touch me once and pull back a bloody stump where your hand used to be" breast massage group.

Dude, you couldn't spank your way out of a room made entirely of upturned asses only, but thanks for playing.

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RE: Slave Relocateme Scams - 3/29/2013 12:16:57 PM

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ORIGINAL: KinkyCalifornia

A woman that hates to have her breasts touched; now that's very believable. Man there are a number of women that post here that desperately need a good spanking.

A spanking isn't going to change the fact that I hate having my breasts touched.

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RE: Slave Relocateme Scams - 3/29/2013 12:18:39 PM

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Okay OsideGirl, my apologies. I didn't think you were serious. You still very clearly need a good spanking, or 2, 4, 8...

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RE: Slave Relocateme Scams - 3/29/2013 1:19:29 PM

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Clueless, just clueless. It's like watching two trains collide. You wanna look away but you can't.

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RE: Slave Relocateme Scams - 3/29/2013 3:49:40 PM

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A woman that hates to have her breasts touched; now that's very believable. Man there are a number of women that post here that desperately need a good spanking.

If you want to have a logical discussion, could you stop the chest puffing, please?

If the breast massage bullshit had so many women creaming their panties, they'd have never left. People (both genders) will put up with an amazing amount of nonsense if the person they are dealing with is such pleasurable nirvana that they can't see straight. In other words, if you were so talented, you wouldn't be "looking" for a damn thing.

Keeping the breasts out of the discussion, I give you My word that I am one of those chicks who honestly can not *stand* massage with the exception of My feet and calves. There are a good number of people out there who really don't prefer certain areas of their bodies to be touched. If you are not aware of this, maybe you should get to know more women.

As to the 'some need a spanking' shit, that might be true, but others need a gag and a pair of handcuffs so their ignorance can not be spread.

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