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RE: Slave Relocateme Scams - 3/29/2013 3:54:44 PM   
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I don't get it when people don't believe real live straightforward shit outta people on this stuff.

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RE: Slave Relocateme Scams - 3/29/2013 3:58:54 PM   
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I and others have researched it and 90% of you ladies will love it, that's right love it. If you say otherwise you should not be taken seriously.


So the 10% of women who won't love it shouldn't be taken seriously?

For me personally, I don't like being touched gently. I'm extremely ticklish, and can't stand most massages at all. Tender touches irk me out to the point that it makes me feel to need to rub the area to get ride of the "impression" a gentle touch leaves. As far as my breast goes, I have virtually no sensitivity in my nipples left after breastfeeding for nearly a year, and half of the month my breasts are so swollen and painful that the change of tension when taking of or putting on a bra is incredible painful. At that time, you come anywhere near my breast in the wrong way and I'll punch you in the eye.

I guess I'm with OsideGirl and shouldn't be taken seriously either...

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RE: Slave Relocateme Scams - 3/29/2013 4:01:37 PM   
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A woman that hates to have her breasts touched; now that's very believable. Man there are a number of women that post here that desperately need a good spanking.


A spanking isn't going to change the fact that I hate having my breasts touched.



Same here, clueless OP. LOTS of women don't like their breasts touched. Just because you WANT them to like it...just because you're attempting to sell a throwaway self-pub telling them they should like it or else they are 1) not to be taken seriously 2) need a spanking 3) don't 'understand' (really, what the eff is there to understand?) doesn't mean they do like it or ever will. Way to go, dude...insulting your target audience. That's really gonna win favors around here.

Btw, still waiting for those research links.



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RE: Slave Relocateme Scams - 3/29/2013 4:10:22 PM   
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RE: Slave Relocateme Scams - 3/29/2013 5:00:52 PM   
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Status: offline 		Poor disillusioned OP.

He really doesn't have a clue does he!?


And such an accomplished, successful, self-publisher of many books to boot!!

Shit. Even a numbskull can self-pub and sell more than a handful of books a month if they were decent material or well-written.
His lack of sales speaks more volumes than he's written!
He needs to get his head out of his ass and find the light switch.


If he wasn't such a self-opinionated prat, I might have felt a tiny twinge of sympathy for him.


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RE: Slave Relocateme Scams - 4/1/2013 1:27:43 AM   
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RE: Slave Relocateme Scams - 4/1/2013 1:57:50 AM   
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ORIGINAL: KinkyCalifornia
My rule of thumb is that if they won't talk to you on the phone and skype (or otherwise videoconference) with you then something is fishy. Unfortunately I ran into a number that won't do both.


My rule of thumb was that I wasn't interested in someone that wanted to start off with the assumption that I was lying and I needed to prove that I wasn't.




It is 2013 not 1996. It used to be OK to assume tthat people were real - consenting adults, it isn't anymore. Unless someone clearly states on their profile they are only looking for online fun/fantasy play then people need to prove who they say they are. If they don't (after a reasonable time) then it is best assumed they are not.

The old adage if it seems to good to be true still lives on though. Anyone saying they will meet you in a 24 hour span from an online dating/Kink site is just that. It simply doesn't exist.

You all are being a little harsh in here though. Jeez.

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RE: Slave Relocateme Scams - 4/1/2013 3:49:16 AM   
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It is 2013 not 1996. It used to be OK to assume tthat people were real - consenting adults, it isn't anymore. Unless someone clearly states on their profile they are only looking for online fun/fantasy play then people need to prove who they say they are. If they don't (after a reasonable time) then it is best assumed they are not.

The old adage if it seems to good to be true still lives on though. Anyone saying they will meet you in a 24 hour span from an online dating/Kink site is just that. It simply doesn't exist.

You all are being a little harsh in here though. Jeez.



No, people don't need to prove who they are, plenty of us get by without that and do just fine.

No one is being harsh on a guy who calls himself a writer when he makes $10-14 a month on his efforts, and who thinks rubbing breasts and touching nipples is something fancy. Jesus, a high schooler is capable of all that.

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RE: Slave Relocateme Scams - 4/1/2013 4:57:54 AM   
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Why will it not surprise me when someday I see a post by the OP proclaiming that ALL submissive women with profiles online are "fakes"?


And that all "Dominant" women are just subs needing to find a real master.

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RE: Slave Relocateme Scams - 4/1/2013 7:47:42 AM   
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ORIGINAL: HarryVanWinkle

Why will it not surprise me when someday I see a post by the OP proclaiming that ALL submissive women with profiles online are "fakes"?


And that all "Dominant" women are just subs needing to find a real master.


Well, that part is true, of course.

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RE: Slave Relocateme Scams - 4/1/2013 8:28:45 AM   
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ORIGINAL: IWillTeachYouGir
then people need to prove who they say they are.
No, I don't. Again, if you want to start off with the assumption I'm lying, why would I want to be with you anyway?

quote:

If they don't (after a reasonable time) then it is best assumed they are not.


Then assume I'm not. It's no skin off my nose. You've just done me the favor of removing yourself from the possibilities.


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RE: Slave Relocateme Scams - 4/1/2013 8:51:30 AM   
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ORIGINAL: IWillTeachYouGir
It is 2013 not 1996. It used to be OK to assume tthat people were real - consenting adults, it isn't anymore. Unless someone clearly states on their profile they are only looking for online fun/fantasy play then people need to prove who they say they are. If they don't (after a reasonable time) then it is best assumed they are not.

The old adage if it seems to good to be true still lives on though. Anyone saying they will meet you in a 24 hour span from an online dating/Kink site is just that. It simply doesn't exist.

You all are being a little harsh in here though. Jeez.

No, I don't. Will I meet somebody in a 24 hour span? It totally depends if the munch or play party I'm attending is within that time frame or not. In fact, that's exactly the time frame and circumstances where I met clip for the first time because when he came across Me on Alt, I was there chatting about the plans for the next evening to be at 1763 in Atlanta. That turned into a six year dynamic.

Maybe some of you gentlemen would do better if you would look into folks who were actually planning to leave the house, rather than just play on the internet.





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RE: Slave Relocateme Scams - 4/1/2013 11:18:25 AM   
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ORIGINAL: LadyPact

quote:

ORIGINAL: IWillTeachYouGir
Anyone saying they will meet you in a 24 hour span from an online dating/Kink site is just that. It simply doesn't exist.



No, I don't. Will I meet somebody in a 24 hour span? It totally depends if the munch or play party I'm attending is within that time frame or not. In fact, that's exactly the time frame and circumstances where I met clip for the first time because when he came across Me on Alt, I was there chatting about the plans for the next evening to be at 1763 in Atlanta. That turned into a six year dynamic.

Maybe some of you gentlemen would do better if you would look into folks who were actually planning to leave the house, rather than just play on the internet.





I'm going to pipe in with LP here. If someone wants to meet me they can attend the same venue and whether that's a month from now or 15 mins from now doesn't make much difference. The chemistry is there or it's not and if someone is a no show, I'm already where I want to be and (hopefully) having a good time.

So, I will meet someone within 24 hours .. i just won't put in 'extra' effort to do so. You want to meet? Be where I'm at - simple. If "I" want to meet I'll attend your venue. Tit for tat, fair is that which is about as good as it gets when there is no power dynamic in place.

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RE: Slave Relocateme Scams - 4/1/2013 12:51:00 PM   
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then people need to prove who they say they are.


I don't have to prove anything to a stranger. You either take me at face value or you don't. If you don't, then frankly you aren't worth my time.

IF the meeting time and place worked with my current travel plans and schedule, I had no problem meeting someone within 24 hours if they haven't already triggered my creep radar. It's just coffee. No play, no dynamic. Just two people meeting to see if they had anything in common and could stand to be in each other's presence for more than 30 minutes.

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RE: Slave Relocateme Scams - 4/1/2013 3:19:47 PM   
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Status: offline 		Your profile is pretty fantastical too, true though it may be. Yours looks like the dream photo guy/girl's invite to play, and see how far he/she can get you to go.
Good luck in sorting through, as it is an uphill battle any day,

Your yahoo ID is whut?! lol M

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RE: Slave Relocateme Scams - 4/1/2013 3:32:58 PM   
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RE: Slave Relocateme Scams - 4/2/2013 8:07:48 AM   
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ORIGINAL: KinkyCalifornia

Wow, this has been very entertaining to read the rebuttals. Ow, nasty stuff. My butt is all red for sure (metaphorically speaking).

Please note:

1) there are quite a bit of slave relocation attempts going on (with success at various times.) Sorry, that is a fact.

2) Too many of you women are offended that I want a woman who is truly HWP. That is my right. If you are overweight, it's not fair that you're offended.

3) Any of you writing and publishing BDSM books? I welcome you to do that. There is a market for your books. If I can you can.

4) Getting to stand out to a sought-after perspective slave is tough. I was trying in any manner I could. I and others I know have actually have had positive experiences with slave relocation in the past, though it was not from across the country but a lot closer. From experience it seems to me that it takes money. There are slaves that are broke right now and need money, plus they want to relocate ASAP, which takes money. That is the problem. You buy them the ticket to travel and maybe they will show up or not.

My rule of thumb is that if they won't talk to you on the phone and skype (or otherwise videoconference) with you then something is fishy. Unfortunately I ran into a number that won't do both.

Okay trash me for writing this. I know it's coming.
Prospective.


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RE: Slave Relocateme Scams - 4/2/2013 11:17:11 AM   
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Status: offline 		I've been following this thread since it started, and I wanted to get some info before jumping in today. I'm going to focus on your fourth point, making your profile stand out and that there are potential takers who need money and are willing to relocate. In your profile, you make noises that you are into good money, so why don't you try this approach.

1. Actually start a conversation with them before demanding for "verification" (e.g. Skype or cams). Yes, I know a skilled scammer will be able to give good conversation, but here's the next part. Offer to go to them first before you offer any compensation for them to move in with you. Is it so hard to take a weekend and hop a plane to meet someone in a vanilla setting on their home turf? If anything, it'd prove to the "real" ones that you are who you say you are.

2. Okay, maybe you can't do what I suggested in #1. Here's another idea: get to know them online, and then hire a PI to follow-up for you. I have a good friend here in town who's a retired cop who does just that. Every week his company gets requests from men and women to do a proper background check on people, usually before they get married. Many times it's one of the primaries involved, usually the female half, who wants to know if they're getting hitched to Mr. Right or Mr. Hyde. Sounds creepy, but it happens every day.

He told me they have three full-time computer investigators who can pretty well find anything you want to know about someone online, and then they hand their findings off to him to do the old-fashioned follow-ups. It's not cheap, but when its done right, you'll know exactly who and what you're dealing with.

3. Ask yourself why someone would be willing to relocate to you. Are they in trouble with the law? Trying to escape a relationship? Heavily in debt? Or a combination of all three or more? If you're serious about doing this, you're going to pay a lot of money anyway in the "relocation" deal, so why not spend a little on the "research" end of it.

I'm sure I'll catch some flak for this, but I do believe that while there are scammers out there using this gambit, there may indeed be someone who's sincere about doing this. It would serve both parties to do a little legwork beforehand. Again, just my two cents on this subject...

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RE: Slave Relocateme Scams - 4/2/2013 4:48:41 PM   
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ORIGINAL: MissKittyDeVine


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ORIGINAL: HarryVanWinkle

Why will it not surprise me when someday I see a post by the OP proclaiming that ALL submissive women with profiles online are "fakes"?


And that all "Dominant" women are just subs needing to find a real master.


Oh, sure! And next you're going to tell me that lesbians don't prefer women just because they've never had a REAL man like me.

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RE: Slave Relocateme Scams - 4/2/2013 5:10:49 PM   
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ORIGINAL: BitaTruble


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ORIGINAL: LadyPact

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ORIGINAL: IWillTeachYouGir
Anyone saying they will meet you in a 24 hour span from an online dating/Kink site is just that. It simply doesn't exist.



No, I don't. Will I meet somebody in a 24 hour span? It totally depends if the munch or play party I'm attending is within that time frame or not. In fact, that's exactly the time frame and circumstances where I met clip for the first time because when he came across Me on Alt, I was there chatting about the plans for the next evening to be at 1763 in Atlanta. That turned into a six year dynamic.

Maybe some of you gentlemen would do better if you would look into folks who were actually planning to leave the house, rather than just play on the internet.





I'm going to pipe in with LP here. If someone wants to meet me they can attend the same venue and whether that's a month from now or 15 mins from now doesn't make much difference. The chemistry is there or it's not and if someone is a no show, I'm already where I want to be and (hopefully) having a good time.

So, I will meet someone within 24 hours .. i just won't put in 'extra' effort to do so. You want to meet? Be where I'm at - simple. If "I" want to meet I'll attend your venue. Tit for tat, fair is that which is about as good as it gets when there is no power dynamic in place.


And I'm going to pipe in with both of you. One of the reasons why I so often recommend people joining their local BDSM communities is because it's a safe place to meet people for the first time. Several women I know and respect will only have those first face to face meetings at the local clubs. If any man gives them excuses about why they can't be seen at such places, they're told that in that case no meeting will happen.

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