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RE: Is it wrong I feel so pressured? - 4/6/2013 10:32:34 AM   
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Yes, if someone has properly seduced you and you want him then you want to do what he says. That is much more fun for a dominant man, to be so actively wanted someone would do so much for you than some kind of orders to her which she then reluctantly obeys.

I do not think it is that hard to make a woman want you - I was trying to explain it to someone earlier this week on the telephone (who was so nasty I cannot see how any woman would ever want him).

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ORIGINAL: nek0s

I was just kind of skimming over the replies and figured i would chime in.

One of my biggest pet peeves in the BDSM community is the " fake " dominant males. Sadly, almost every supposed dominant or self proclaimed dominant male i have crossed paths with are anything but dominant males. They are weak little boys trying to justify showing the physical superiority over women in the guise of BDSM.

A dominant male will never beg or plead for a woman give him a blowjob or to do anything for that matter. A dominant male will know how to talk to a woman and make her want nothing more than to give him a blow job. A dominant male will never ((( force ))) a woman to bend over so he can fuck her in the ass. A dominant male will know how to touch, comfort , protect and make her feel safe. So much so she not only wants him to bend her over she begs him to. And most importantly, a dominant male get's very little out of being physically dominant over a woman or dominant threw fear. All real men, which are severely lacking in the BDSM community, know that we can do any thing we want to a woman and there is nothing she could ever do to stop us. We do how ever get something out of her (((willingly))) giving herself, her body, her mind and especially her heart to us and trusting us enough to do what ever we like to her, whether she likes it or not.

The women here who are defending being ( forced ) to do anything, sorry to say but you were merely raped by a weak little boy.




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RE: Is it wrong I feel so pressured? - 4/6/2013 10:48:41 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: nek0s

I was just kind of skimming over the replies and figured i would chime in.

One of my biggest pet peeves in the BDSM community is the " fake " dominant males. Sadly, almost every supposed dominant or self proclaimed dominant male i have crossed paths with are anything but dominant males. They are weak little boys trying to justify showing the physical superiority over women in the guise of BDSM.

A dominant male will never beg or plead for a woman give him a blowjob or to do anything for that matter. A dominant male will know how to talk to a woman and make her want nothing more than to give him a blow job. A dominant male will never ((( force ))) a woman to bend over so he can fuck her in the ass. A dominant male will know how to touch, comfort , protect and make her feel safe. So much so she not only wants him to bend her over she begs him to. And most importantly, a dominant male get's very little out of being physically dominant over a woman or dominant threw fear. All real men, which are severely lacking in the BDSM community, know that we can do any thing we want to a woman and there is nothing she could ever do to stop us. We do how ever get something out of her (((willingly))) giving herself, her body, her mind and especially her heart to us and trusting us enough to do what ever we like to her, whether she likes it or not.

The women here who are defending being ( forced ) to do anything, sorry to say but you were merely raped by a weak little boy.




I like this post!!!!
I will say though, some subs like forcefulness. the whole TAKE ME CAVEMAN THING. lol. Really a fine line to walk for doms, knowing all that inside stuff, especially when the sub doesnt want to have to say it, its just known. NOW THAT IS HOT HOT HOT.


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RE: Is it wrong I feel so pressured? - 4/6/2013 11:39:11 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: chatterbox24
I like this post!!!!
I will say though, some subs like forcefulness. the whole TAKE ME CAVEMAN THING. lol. Really a fine line to walk for doms, knowing all that inside stuff, especially when the sub doesnt want to have to say it, its just known. NOW THAT IS HOT HOT HOT.



I'm into the forceful stuff too...
It's not so much about the act itself but the willingness to engage in it and who you do it with.

Like i said, or at least was trying to , if i guy has to force a woman to submit he isn't a dominant male. A real dominant male knows how to make a woman willingly give him every thing and doesn't need to force her threw fear of mental or physical torment.

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RE: Is it wrong I feel so pressured? - 4/6/2013 12:02:20 PM   
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ORIGINAL: nek0s
That is sexy too. If someone has made me want him in the relationship sense, then once that has got going then force and direct language and orders are good. In fact I prefer to be told, not asked. I do not think I have ever been in a relationship for example when I've been asked if I want sex and that's great, works fine for me, but have always been with a man who cares for me and takes reasonable notice of what I need and how I am.

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ORIGINAL: chatterbox24
I like this post!!!!
I will say though, some subs like forcefulness. the whole TAKE ME CAVEMAN THING. lol. Really a fine line to walk for doms, knowing all that inside stuff, especially when the sub doesnt want to have to say it, its just known. NOW THAT IS HOT HOT HOT.



I'm into the forceful stuff too...
It's not so much about the act itself but the willingness to engage in it and who you do it with.

Like i said, or at least was trying to , if i guy has to force a woman to submit he isn't a dominant male. A real dominant male knows how to make a woman willingly give him every thing and doesn't need to force her threw fear of mental or physical torment.


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RE: Is it wrong I feel so pressured? - 4/14/2013 10:11:50 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Glittoris

You do realize that him forcing you to blow him, when you did not want to, is considered rape, don't you?

rape  

rape1 [reyp] noun, verb, raped, rap·ing.
noun
1.
the unlawful compelling of a person through physical force or duress to have sexual intercourse.
2.
any act of sexual intercourse that is forced upon a person
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And how the hell can you fall in love with someone you've seen only twice [and tried, multiple times, to force you to have sex with him]?

Girl, you are 19 and lonely, I get that. But jesus christ, walk away and find someone worthy of your submission!

He's a douche bag male looking to get laid, with or without your consent. Walk away now before it gets worse, which it will, dude, really, if this is how he acts when he's trying to get you to be involved with him, what the fuck will he do once you are involved, or [shudders], married???

Find a Dom who is on the same path as you, and has the same morals and values and rules as you, stop letting this piece of shit treat you like a second class citizen!

DITTO THIS ^^^
Also allowing the "different culture" thing to excuse douche baggery isn't love, or submission or as stated above even sex. Its douche baggery!! If a white guy pulling this, or similar age pulling this would be met with OH HEEEEELLL NO...then you have your answer.
Love isn't abuse or rape even in kink circles. Your mind has already told you this, time to allow your feet to follow.

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RE: Is it wrong I feel so pressured? - 4/14/2013 10:55:09 AM   
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Different culture = this is not going to change.

Condom issue = irresponsible.

Trying to change a man = very thick rose colored glasses.

Collage girl = all the opportunity in the World.

10 day old thread = this post is a waste of time. If the matter hasn't been resolved, it won't be.

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RE: Is it wrong I feel so pressured? - 4/14/2013 5:12:16 PM   
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Yeah.... :/

I just need help.. he says those are his feelings.. but i feel pressured and he said i shouldn't but his feelings make me feel so. We only met two times... sex shouldn't be this big of an issue it puts me in a crappy situation.


Seems to me that you wanted him to say that he was ok with not having sex - and mean it. If someone agrees to something you can't make them like it. If you feel pressured then you have the problem - not him.

And really, sex is a big issue in any relationship that potentially involves it. "It" didn't put you in a crappy situation - you put yourself in a crappy situation and then had the gaul to expect the man to buy into your expectations.

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RE: Is it wrong I feel so pressured? - 4/16/2013 7:11:29 AM   
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I think if you're this tore up about it already, move on - sound like you're gonna be home cooking cleaning and taking care of too many kids while he cats around - it is submissive of course, but they don't write a whole lot of romance novels about it.

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RE: Is it wrong I feel so pressured? - 4/16/2013 7:48:59 AM   
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No it's not wrong.

Looking at it harshly - the dude's a dick and you should move on.

Looking at it generously - you're not a good cultural/personal match and you should move on.

I appreciate that it's gutting when you feel such a strong attraction to someone early on, but on this occasion I hope you just pull up your britches and move on.

You'll find someone who is a much better match.

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RE: Is it wrong I feel so pressured? - 4/16/2013 9:30:49 AM   
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If you are raised this way, it's something you expect, it's a common theme in all the worlds major religions, the Madonna/Whore dichotomy, you find it in the mainstream of traditional Christianity and Islam, Hinduism, and whatever it is the Chinese do: i.e., the wife is there to birth and raise children, take care of the home, and there is a lot of drama associated with ever seeing her as a sex object - it's a form of objectification, kind of reverse objectification, and the whole status system in these religions revolves around it, and presumably, there are compensations of some sort for the women, mileage may vary.

i.e., sexual objectification treats you as sex object, denying your humanity, i.e, the other facets of your personality, your role as mother, professional, whatever, which many women find objectionable - the reverse venerates you as wife and mother but denies you as a sexual being - which many women find equally dehumanizing and objectionable. They both, taken to the logical extreme, promote a specific facet of your being at the expense of others.

Lot's of Oedipal conflicts in there I suspect, and not a little just plain old avarice, jealousy, compensation for real or perceived inadequacies, etc., and much of the "war between the sexes" is about trying to find a happy medium, it's an ongoing thing - but again, if you've been raised subject to this binary mythme it can be very difficult to break away from it, the social inertia is enormous.

The traditional compromise is wife with mistress on the side, though there are few less punitive cultures that engage in more democratic forms of social monogamy, without apparently causing the world to come to an end, and wiiwd, which allows you to explore different roles including sexual, within a monogamous dyad, preferably without some crisis of consciousness that threatens the foundations of your very being, which some people call, "acting like an adult".

In short, it's highly unlikely you are going to ever change this guy, if your sexual health and well being is important to you, however you conceive of it, then you should act accordingly, it's a human thing, just turns out people people define human differently.

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