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thezeppo -> RE: Financial Domination? (4/9/2013 12:16:35 PM)


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ORIGINAL: iamalive888

I'm not saying to remove all FinDoms from the world. It won't happen. They will always find ways to do what they want to do. What I am saying is the site clearly says don't give money, but will allow profiles that say exactly that. There are plenty of sites that say if you have things like this, it will be removed. It's not wanted. It sets the standard. Obviously there will be circumventing this but at least a firm response to these types of things would be a good step. This isn't the US Federal Government. There is no such thing as Free Speech here. The owners can control what they want. They can dictate what is and is not acceptable.


I think the site has given its best fix in this situation. At the moment, anyone can start a profile, they can say pretty much anything they want and its up to the person looking to find the right person for them. That's a fairly close approximation of free speech in my estimate. There are professional Doms here as well that charge for services, at what point do you draw the line?

I know that findom isn't to everyone's taste, but I also know it is to some peoples taste. I would rather be inclusive than exclusive.




thezeppo -> RE: Financial Domination? (4/9/2013 12:20:20 PM)


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ORIGINAL: BlkTallFullfig

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ORIGINAL: thezeppo
All this moralising has the same basic undertone; 'I'm not getting what I want from this site and so I want to change the site'. Start your own site and apply your techniques to get rid of people just out to make a quick buck. If it works I will join it.

Its not a situation unique to BDSM, or to dating sites. Its the way of the world. Faith healers fleece people, psychics fleece people, my car insurance have just charged me £30 as an admin fee and threatened to cancel a policy I have already paid in full, just because I changed car. The moralising on findom is so transparently self-serving, lets all just get on with our lives shall we?
Give the kid a free spanking for being brilliant, and right on! [sm=dance.gif] M


And it only took me 260 posts! I knew I would be right eventually :D




ClassAct2006 -> RE: Financial Domination? (4/9/2013 1:52:26 PM)

It's up to people to protect themselves and their own financial position if they can. If people want to give money away because that arouses them whether it's marrying a low earning or non earning wife and showing off about keeping her and how much she spends on clothes (that is something men often love to show off about and as a feminist I cannot stand it but it seems to be part of their ego trip) or paying prostitutes or paying anyone for whatever they need.

We can all issue warnings to men and women - men avoid foreign girls with very pretty photos who are young and ask you to send them their air fare or sums to pay their medical bills although even there sometimes it works out. I think that Russian who just died in England Berezovsky as well as an ex wife and an ex partner who is mother of some of his children had young Russians shipped over and a couple in their teens (he is over 60) did seem to appreciate the relationship not just because of the money and shopping trips so I suppose sometimes even that type of relationship if it gets you lots of sexy young women keeps some old men happy. However in general it is better to steer clear. Most of us probably want someone who wants us for ourselves.




LadyPact -> RE: Financial Domination? (4/9/2013 3:12:11 PM)

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ORIGINAL: iamalive888

Wow, you clearly have reading comprehension issues. The OP posed a question, gave her opinion and then opened the floor for discussion. Is seriously the only thing people can do on here is name call? Maybe you need to reread the original post and figure out how wrong you are.

How freaking immature are Doms on this site? Does it make you feel better to call people names? Or maybe add your opinion and move it along. If anyone outside the clique is to ask a question, they are to be destroyed. Way to be open and accepting. Way to ensure that your lifestyle will not have any new exciting people.

Don't like the influx of FinDom posts? Make a sticky and have the mod's control that Until then, sifting through pages and pages of information without the ability to have a nice open discussion is pointless.
Why do people even try this kind of clap trap? Do you really think that people have some kind of obligation to answer threads the way that you want them to? Why do you think that people happy with their lives, relationships, etc give a happy horse fuck whether people just starting out get involved in kink or not? So far, I haven't seen any exceptional benefit to it except for an opportunity for some new folks to lash out their own bullshit on the boards.

It's not about questions not asked by someone in the clique. The part of that you are missing is that not everybody wants to stay at the 101 level forever. There is an exceptionally extensive thread that is full of information and education. Many people spent a lot of time answering the question to the best of their knowledge and debated several points on the matter on the thread that was linked. By the way, having a look for recent threads on a topic is exactly what the site suggests that a person do before opening a new one. Also, that thread also explains why that thread is not a sticky.

This isn't a 'pat people on the head' kind of place. It's an adult site and one that people, hopefully, are going to act like grown ups. That includes people not using the boards to foot stomp and expect to be catered to just because they signed up for a website.







Rochsub2009 -> RE: Financial Domination? (4/9/2013 3:44:08 PM)

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ORIGINAL: submandibular

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ORIGINAL: Rochsub2009

Why don't we have weekly threads by guys with titles like "Stop treating the ladies like tramps" or "All women aren't whores"? The incidents of women being disrespected probably outnumbers the number of financial Dommes on this site. Yet, we get innumerable threads cursing financial Dommes, and almost none decrying disrespect towards women. That's sad.


Perhaps you should start one.


I seldom start threads. But the last time I did, it lasted for over 60 pages (and was on this exact same topic), so I think I've already met my quota for starting threads. [;)]




submandibular -> RE: Financial Domination? (4/9/2013 3:55:55 PM)

I read it and it was a doozy! Mind I didn't know this thread would go on for this long after I stated it, but I guess I was wrong on that.

Do you think maybe it is possible for me to jump on this Grenade I seem to have unknowingly unleashed onto the board? Seems my first post will not be my finest. Certainly got the blood going though.


Jerry's final thought?

We're all different, some have similar views and some have different ones, but one thing I learned was to think a little before I posted, be a little more respectful with others' views and have a search for previous threads. I in no way intended to cause such an argument. Maybe this could be an example of how not to do it. I nice juxtaposition to your delightful thread!




Rochsub2009 -> RE: Financial Domination? (4/9/2013 4:08:19 PM)


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ORIGINAL: submandibular

Do you think maybe it is possible for me to jump on this Grenade I seem to have unknowingly unleashed onto the board? Seems my first post will not be my finest. Certainly got the blood going though...........Maybe this could be an example of how not to do it. I nice juxtaposition to your delightful thread!


Nah, don't be so hard on yourself. This wasn't bad at all. It's just that the topic seems to bring out more negative emotions than any other subject that we discuss on the boards. But I don't think that you did so badly.

Frankly, I'd be embarrassed to admit how long it took me to discover the search function on this site. And even now, I seldom use it. If I want to discuss something, then I want to discuss it. I don't want to read what other people said about it 5 years ago. I want to PARTICIPATE in the discussion. I know that some here disagree with that sentiment, but that's just how I see it.





submandibular -> RE: Financial Domination? (4/9/2013 4:34:10 PM)

Thank you kindly :)




iamalive888 -> RE: Financial Domination? (4/11/2013 7:19:39 AM)

The concept which you fail to recognize? If you are tired of answering the question, don't answer the question. Being in a lifestyle that has a lot of misconceptions and a lot of newbies trying to understand, you should be more open to questions and trying to guide people. Maybe this just shows what a terrible teacher and leader you are. Maybe it doesn't. Always people complaining that they can't find good subs, but then bash ones that are trying to learn and educate themselves.

Either way, a question was posed, some helpful, thoughtful information was shared, then there was the snarky "real" doms that decided to overtake and bash. You want good subs, but you don't want to assist anyone because it may take more than a couple minutes to answer a question.

And might I add, I'm not sure if someone out there banned me from the forums for 24 hours or if the forums were down for awhile, but that is a bitch move. If that's the flow of the site, then the owners can have all their little fake doms and spam bots because it's just not worth it.




searching4mysir -> RE: Financial Domination? (4/11/2013 7:31:51 AM)

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And might I add, I'm not sure if someone out there banned me from the forums for 24 hours or if the forums were down for awhile, but that is a bitch move. If that's the flow of the site, then the owners can have all their little fake doms and spam bots because it's just not worth it.



IF you had been banned, you would have gotten a gold-bordered letter from the moderators in your inbox on the other side telling you what you did wrong and not to do it again in the future. Yesterday I couldn't access the forums using Google Chrome but I could using IE. Sometimes it is just your browser.

So, before you start throwing a hissy fit that a toddler would be jealous of, you might want to remember that you aren't that special.




Rochsub2009 -> RE: Financial Domination? (4/11/2013 7:33:50 AM)


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ORIGINAL: iamalive888

And might I add, I'm not sure if someone out there banned me from the forums for 24 hours or if the forums were down for awhile, but that is a bitch move. If that's the flow of the site, then the owners can have all their little fake doms and spam bots because it's just not worth it.


No, you weren't banned. I'm not sure what's been going on with the site, but I have had a difficult time logging in for the past 2 days. They must be experiencing some technical difficulties.




LadyPact -> RE: Financial Domination? (4/11/2013 7:53:28 AM)

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ORIGINAL: iamalive888

The concept which you fail to recognize? If you are tired of answering the question, don't answer the question. Being in a lifestyle that has a lot of misconceptions and a lot of newbies trying to understand, you should be more open to questions and trying to guide people. Maybe this just shows what a terrible teacher and leader you are. Maybe it doesn't. Always people complaining that they can't find good subs, but then bash ones that are trying to learn and educate themselves.

Either way, a question was posed, some helpful, thoughtful information was shared, then there was the snarky "real" doms that decided to overtake and bash. You want good subs, but you don't want to assist anyone because it may take more than a couple minutes to answer a question.

And might I add, I'm not sure if someone out there banned me from the forums for 24 hours or if the forums were down for awhile, but that is a bitch move. If that's the flow of the site, then the owners can have all their little fake doms and spam bots because it's just not worth it.

You might want to consider a couple of things. One being that not everyone here is looking for anything. The other is that not everybody feels they have to lead everyone just because they are a Dominant. Some of us will even tell you that we're not beholden to anybody just because we happen to be on the same website. We just don't have the same anger issues as those who want to force us to think like them.




OsideGirl -> RE: Financial Domination? (4/11/2013 8:21:16 AM)


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ORIGINAL: iamalive888
And might I add, I'm not sure if someone out there banned me from the forums for 24 hours or if the forums were down for awhile, but that is a bitch move. If that's the flow of the site, then the owners can have all their little fake doms and spam bots because it's just not worth it.


Nice little rant. You weren't banned. You would have received a letter from the Mods and your posts would say [AWAITING APPROVAL].

I love when people go off on the Mods and the site without having all the facts. It's a strike first, ask questions later move and it's poor behavior.




BlkTallFullfig -> RE: Financial Domination? (4/11/2013 8:42:24 AM)

First, I apologize for being short with you, and submandibular, for not recognizing you both as newbies to the boards, and being unaware of how often this subject is brought up for discussion. To be fair, it's your job as newbies, to seek out, and read FAQs, not so much as to not repeat questions, but more to give you a perspective to begin from.
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ORIGINAL: iamalive888
The concept which you fail to recognize? If you are tired of answering the question, don't answer the question. Being in a lifestyle that has a lot of misconceptions and a lot of newbies trying to understand, you should be more open to questions and trying to guide people. Maybe this just shows what a terrible teacher and leader you are. Maybe it doesn't. Always people complaining that they can't find good subs, but then bash ones that are trying to learn and educate themselves.

Either way, a question was posed, some helpful, thoughtful information was shared, then there was the snarky "real" doms that decided to overtake and bash. You want good subs, but you don't want to assist anyone because it may take more than a couple minutes to answer a question.
Having said the above, I will be fair and say that those of us who have been around a while, do tend to become curt regarding repetitive themes/questions, and we tend to often sarcastic, or at times unkind in our delivery, to the point of encouraging the newbie to run to the corner, and shut down your computer sometimes.

I don't believe anyone was that harsh on this particular thread, but we were short on patience, while explaining that this is just one of those kinks, that people tend to hold moral superiority over, because of the false premise that relationships, money, and sex shall never meet. This therefore sparks a lot of arguments regarding it's ethics, morals, and acceptability.




SeekingTrinity -> RE: Financial Domination? (4/11/2013 8:49:22 AM)

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ORIGINAL: iamalive888

The concept which you fail to recognize? If you are tired of answering the question, don't answer the question. Being in a lifestyle that has a lot of misconceptions and a lot of newbies trying to understand, you should be more open to questions and trying to guide people. Maybe this just shows what a terrible teacher and leader you are. Maybe it doesn't. Always people complaining that they can't find good subs, but then bash ones that are trying to learn and educate themselves.

Either way, a question was posed, some helpful, thoughtful information was shared, then there was the snarky "real" doms that decided to overtake and bash. You want good subs, but you don't want to assist anyone because it may take more than a couple minutes to answer a question.

And might I add, I'm not sure if someone out there banned me from the forums for 24 hours or if the forums were down for awhile, but that is a bitch move. If that's the flow of the site, then the owners can have all their little fake doms and spam bots because it's just not worth it.


Dad, it's you!!! I thought you were dead of that heart attack since 2005 [8|] Just keep one thing in mind...when you start pointing the finger at someone, you have 3 fingers pointing right back at yourself. Don't start bitching about perceived mistreatment of others here if you yourself have unclean hands. Hypocracy is not the newest fashion trend. Just sayin'

I wasn't able to access the forum side for the past two days either. You aren't as special as you think you are.

As for you, OP....I'm answering this even though I do not consider myself anything other than a dominant female. Financial domination isn't my cup of tea either, but I make it a point of trying very hard to not pass judgment on anyone else's kink so long as its not causing unconsenting people/creatures harm in the process. What two people choose to do as far as being financially dominant to someone who is into being financially dominated is honestly their business. I don't get it myself, don't understand it, and wouldn't ever participate in it...but if two people elect to engage in it of their own free will, then that's the choice they make.




iamalive888 -> RE: Financial Domination? (4/11/2013 9:10:27 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Rochsub2009


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ORIGINAL: iamalive888

And might I add, I'm not sure if someone out there banned me from the forums for 24 hours or if the forums were down for awhile, but that is a bitch move. If that's the flow of the site, then the owners can have all their little fake doms and spam bots because it's just not worth it.


No, you weren't banned. I'm not sure what's been going on with the site, but I have had a difficult time logging in for the past 2 days. They must be experiencing some technical difficulties.


I only said this because I went on chat, asked if it was down for somebody else and they said it was fine. So I assumed incorrectly. This is my fault. I was figuring it was down, but there was always the possibility that I could have been banned.




Rattenkonig -> RE: Financial Domination? (4/11/2013 10:45:42 AM)

I had a sub who was into FinDom. FinDom is not my main kink but I get it. It's another was of emasculating a man.
"The only package you could ever please me with is one from UPS filled with shoes" Is always the line that comes to mind. It's the same as having your sub pay for you to have a date with a manlier man. It's like.. financial cuckolding. After talking at length with men who are into it, I'd say it's a really interesting fetish but I feel sorry for them because there are so many Dommes who are just taking advantage. It's a weird circle because they know the girl isn't interested in really being a domme most the time. I don't get it, but I really like humiliating men and I also like shoes, so maybe I do?




TNDommeK -> RE: Financial Domination? (4/11/2013 12:15:27 PM)

Hey I'm wondering, has anyone read the fin domme thread that Roch started?

Also I have to agree with LP, just bc I'm dominant, doesn't mean I feel the need to guide and train everyone. Figure things out on your own.




ResidentSadist -> RE: Financial Domination? (4/11/2013 12:22:33 PM)

Love this thread, such a fresh new topic.




TNDommeK -> RE: Financial Domination? (4/11/2013 5:31:39 PM)

Agree with you RS. By the way, I like our sig line about 50 shades




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