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ORIGINAL: BlkTallFullfig
I don't believe anyone was that harsh on this particular thread, but we were short on patience, while explaining that this is just one of those kinks, that people tend to hold moral superiority over, because of the false premise that relationships, money, and sex shall never meet. This therefore sparks a lot of arguments regarding it's ethics, morals, and acceptability.

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fucking light her on fire and people would all think that was cool and I was an "extreme edge player" (so long as no serious injury occurred). But if I have her buy me a pair of shoes I'm the prince of darkness.

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ORIGINAL: JeffBC

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ORIGINAL: BlkTallFullfig
I don't believe anyone was that harsh on this particular thread, but we were short on patience, while explaining that this is just one of those kinks, that people tend to hold moral superiority over, because of the false premise that relationships, money, and sex shall never meet. This therefore sparks a lot of arguments regarding it's ethics, morals, and acceptability.

LOL... as I've said more than once this sort of amuses me... the sort of vanilla guy. Just to be clear, I could pee on Carol, then whip her bloody, then carve my initials into her breasts and then fucking light her on fire and people would all think that was cool and I was an "extreme edge player" (so long as no serious injury occurred). But if I have her buy me a pair of shoes I'm the prince of darkness.

You BDSM folk have a lot of really odd rules. ~grin~

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ORIGINAL: submandibular

I was wondering what Mistresses think about this?

I've noticed over the years a massive increase in the amount of "Dommes" on this site who seem only interested in making money from desperate men. Since when has money been a such a big part of BDSM? I always thought submission was what dominant women desire. Surely being given a gift without demanding it is much more satisfying.

Also I wonder do dominant men on here demand tribute or do financial doms exist? My humble opinion is that a truly dominant woman has her life in check and does not require a submissive/slaves money or am I missing the point and is Financial Domination a real fetish and true part of BDSM.

Hi I'm Kay :)

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ORIGINAL: Bhruic
I think all this ire that is being directed at financial Doms and Dommes should be redirected at evangelical Christianity, that extracts money from lonely old ladies on fixed income in return for "prayers". They are the real nasty financial Doms in my humble opinion.

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ORIGINAL: TNDommeK
God forbid you buy her anything! Then she's jobless, a leech, prostitute...what else do I get called? Oh I forget but you got my sarcasm. ;)

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ORIGINAL: JeffBC
My understanding of the concern is the image that a findomme is basically a BDSM based phone sex operator (although I'm still unclear what's wrong with that).

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ORIGINAL: Rochsub2009
And that has always been my position throughout these discussions about financial Dommes. Like you, I fail to see what's wrong with it.

Sure, I can see how many (most?) people wouldn't be interested in participating. Frankly, I don't participate in scat play, hardcore masochism, humiliation play, and may other things. But I don't get angry at those who do. Nor do I try to prohibit their right to do so. But that's exactly what those who don't like financial domination seem to want to do. If they could eliminate financial domination from the face of the Earth, I think they'd gladly do so.

I just don't understand why some people get so upset about what others do with their money. Nobody forces anyone to participate. It's all done by consenting adults. So where's the problem?

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ORIGINAL: submandibular

I was wondering what Mistresses think about this?

I've noticed over the years a massive increase in the amount of "Dommes" on this site who seem only interested in making money from desperate men. Since when has money been a such a big part of BDSM? I always thought submission was what dominant women desire. Surely being given a gift without demanding it is much more satisfying.

Also I wonder do dominant men on here demand tribute or do financial doms exist? My humble opinion is that a truly dominant woman has her life in check and does not require a submissive/slaves money or am I missing the point and is Financial Domination a real fetish and true part of BDSM.

Hi I'm Kay :)

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ORIGINAL: submandibular

BlkTallFullFig - I can see I'm not going to get anywhere here. My questions were answered, I read a much deeper and far more intelligent discussion on the links that OsideGirl and Lady Pact posted, I don't think I really do this argument much justice. There is nothing wrong with upfront advertsising, I was just making a point about how pervasive money is on this site.

No I am not into castration or chastity.

As for asking about men, I was not alluding to the fact that it is a female thing and I meant no disrespect to women by asking it, it was an honest question, I just wanted to know if they existed or not and they do.

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ORIGINAL: UllrsIshtar

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ORIGINAL: submandibular

Regarding money being a big part of BDSM and sex in general, I don't feel in my everyday life and experiences that money does play such an overtly big part in sex.

I didn't say that money necessarily plays a big part in relationships, I said money has always been tied to sex.

For as long as there has been money, people -both men and women- have been trading sex for money.
Not just sex in the form of literal penetration, but all forms and allusions to it. The fantasy of sex in all it's forms have been selling for as long as human beings have traded with each other.

BDSM is no exception to that...

There are women demanding money for the fantasy of D/s, because there are women, and there is money, and there is D/s. It's as simple as that.

I don't understand why you're so confused on why money is such a big part of the BDSM environment you can find online... the fact that money is that big a part of it seems self-evident to me.