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RE: If North Korea fires off a missile... - 4/13/2013 5:44:27 PM

mnottertail

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I think that NorthKorea is already on the Chinese shortlist of shitlists. The new premire in Chna, sent them a letter that simply said on the order of...don't you dare fire that fuckin missle off......(the old one that it took em like 5 tries) and they did.

China is pretty much the bread and butter of that country. And you don't even need to consult a map to know that China is not gonna let them fuckholes have nukes.

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RE: If North Korea fires off a missile... - 4/13/2013 5:48:31 PM

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Gee, Ron, thanks! I never would have known what the story I linked to this morning (#15) said, If you hadn't come back all sage and sassy with it.

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RE: If North Korea fires off a missile... - 4/13/2013 5:50:52 PM

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Yeah, I dont read your links, the waste of time would be immense. Nor am I trying to educate you, you have chosen mostly uneducable ideologies.

I could not give less of a glimmer of a fuck.

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RE: If North Korea fires off a missile... - 4/13/2013 5:55:07 PM

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...should we just shoot it down on principle?

If it were me and it were targeting us or our allies I'd shoot massive silos of missiles at him and knock his short ass off his high chair. I'd make sure the lines of communication were open should he live through it. He could come back to the table so we can work things out. Or he can shoot at our people and be flattened.

All this brave war talk. Same shit we heard about Saddam. He's a danger to us. We have to hit him first. What benefit did that gain us? You evidently have no memory of the last war on the Korean peninsula.

They do have nukes. He has threatened to nuke our allies. He has threatened to hit us as well. He is raising missiles into place (the equivalent of pointing guns). And you think we should do what? Beg him to be reasonable?

We have allies we have to protect. Otherwise our days of getting people to work with us are over. What good is a powerful friend if he won't lift a finger to protect you?

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RE: If North Korea fires off a missile... - 4/13/2013 6:01:52 PM

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Yeah, thats real iffy. 06, 09 and 13 they said they conducted nuclear tests, but the evidence was real fuckin scanty. If they did blow something it was low level, but that dont say nothing about putting it in a missle cone.

You can bet your bottom dollar (because its been all over the papers and the boards) that China supplies us alot more miniature military hardware than they do NK.

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RE: If North Korea fires off a missile... - 4/13/2013 6:07:30 PM

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Yeah, I dont read your links

Yeah, that damn New York Times. Worse than Fox.

It's okay. I understand the need for views such as yours to stay within the comfort zone of approved material.

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RE: If North Korea fires off a missile... - 4/13/2013 6:15:27 PM

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Yeah, thats real iffy. 06, 09 and 13 they said they conducted nuclear tests, but the evidence was real fuckin scanty. If they did blow something it was low level, but that dont say nothing about putting it in a missle cone.

You can bet your bottom dollar (because its been all over the papers and the boards) that China supplies us alot more miniature military hardware than they do NK.

Whether or not they've miniaturized it enough to put on a missile is something none of us really know. I'm sure the government knows.

If they can't it leaves us a whole lot more options.

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RE: If North Korea fires off a missile... - 4/13/2013 6:19:45 PM

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Yeah, I dont read your links

Yeah, that damn New York Times. Worse than Fox.

It's okay. I understand the need for views such as yours to stay within the comfort zone of approved material.

I don't give a fuck where it comes from, I didn't read the fuckin thing. You start a thread should we blow NK missles out of the sky..for some principle.

It can only be a smartass principle, they aint gonna launch anything we have to worry about, and why would we do it? The Chinese can handle it, Rich, and you can't build a fence that doesn't fall down in a breeze, and to top that off the US government fucks everything up, and my entire comfort zone consists of laughing at nutsuckers in the Goopers and watching them unravel.

so, a hypothetical, based on a hypothetical with a hypothetical premise for hypothetical outcome is not something I am gonna research every asswipe entry in every asswipe thread. I am very comfortable with that, if you aint, I dont even fuckin care.

Hate or say stupid shit to your hearts content, I dont give a fuck, I am more than comfortable, and pissant drivel passed off as insightful commentary ain't nothing but minneapolis airport bathroom Gooper caucusing, it is about as threatening or realistic or worthy of honest consideration as the nuclear threat from Fatboy in NK.

It aint my problem it aint gonna happen and god forbid it does, the Chinese will handle it. We need to look to our own house.

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RE: If North Korea fires off a missile... - 4/13/2013 6:40:11 PM

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Yeah, thats real iffy. 06, 09 and 13 they said they conducted nuclear tests, but the evidence was real fuckin scanty. If they did blow something it was low level, but that dont say nothing about putting it in a missle cone.

You can bet your bottom dollar (because its been all over the papers and the boards) that China supplies us alot more miniature military hardware than they do NK.

Whether or not they've miniaturized it enough to put on a missile is something none of us really know. I'm sure the government knows.

If they can't it leaves us a whole lot more options.

I don't see how our government would know, unless we are a fuck of a lot more cozy with the Chinese than the hoi polloi let on.

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RE: If North Korea fires off a missile... - 4/13/2013 7:05:28 PM

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North Korea is like the drunk guy in bar who runs his mouth, pounds his chest.....and accidentally starts a fight he's not prepared for.

China is like his sober buddy, telling NK to shut up because he realizes that either way he (China) loses.

NK starts a war and loses. China gets to have South Korea and US forces on it's own border, instead of having an insulator.

China defends NK, and they lose a very large source of revenue because they can no longer sell their products to the US.

On the other hand, the prepping business is going through the roof....

In a nutshell right there. I was warming up to a long-winded and articulate argument with listed sources and everything, but that was short, sweet, and to the point.

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RE: If North Korea fires off a missile... - 4/13/2013 7:38:10 PM

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Why do you always get so negative and go for the blind personal shots, when you find your only option is to agree with what I've been saying, Ron? Do I make you feel that inadequate?

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RE: If North Korea fires off a missile... - 4/14/2013 8:25:52 AM

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...should we just shoot it down on principle?

Actually...NOTHING should be done just on principle.....

This is how bush and your party fucked our great economy and a dozen other world class fuck-ups......

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RE: If North Korea fires off a missile... - 4/14/2013 8:28:48 AM

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NOTHING should be done just on principle.....

Good to see a man who practices what he preaches.

K.

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RE: If North Korea fires off a missile... - 4/14/2013 8:33:07 AM

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ORIGINAL: blacksword404

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ORIGINAL: vincentML

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ORIGINAL: blacksword404

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ORIGINAL: TheHeretic

...should we just shoot it down on principle?

If it were me and it were targeting us or our allies I'd shoot massive silos of missiles at him and knock his short ass off his high chair. I'd make sure the lines of communication were open should he live through it. He could come back to the table so we can work things out. Or he can shoot at our people and be flattened.

All this brave war talk. Same shit we heard about Saddam. He's a danger to us. We have to hit him first. What benefit did that gain us? You evidently have no memory of the last war on the Korean peninsula.

They do have nukes. He has threatened to nuke our allies. He has threatened to hit us as well. He is raising missiles into place (the equivalent of pointing guns). And you think we should do what? Beg him to be reasonable?

We have allies we have to protect. Otherwise our days of getting people to work with us are over. What good is a powerful friend if he won't lift a finger to protect you?

I wanted to add: Both the Korean and Vietnam wars were civil wars which we stuck our nose into. This is not the same situation. Kim-Kim is directly threatening the United States and it's territories in the Pacific.

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RE: If North Korea fires off a missile... - 4/14/2013 9:00:44 AM

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NOTHING should be done just on principle.....

Good to see a man who practices what he preaches.

K.

Supper....so this is where you show were I`ve supported something really stupid/costly/immoral/deadly,like your party does daily.....

The "Iknowwhatyouarebutwhat`mI" level political retorts, are beneath your grand intellect......

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RE: If North Korea fires off a missile... - 4/14/2013 9:06:38 AM

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NOTHING should be done just on principle.....

Good to see a man who practices what he preaches.

so this is where you show were I`ve supported something really stupid/costly/immoral/deadly,like your party does daily.....

No, this is where I tell you, again, that it's not "my party" and ask you, again, to stop fucking lying.

Just on principle, yanno?

K.

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RE: If North Korea fires off a missile... - 4/14/2013 9:08:41 AM

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Sure....I believe you.....

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RE: If North Korea fires off a missile... - 4/14/2013 9:51:57 AM

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Why do you always get so negative and go for the blind personal shots, when you find your only option is to agree with what I've been saying, Ron? Do I make you feel that inadequate?

I thing that your smug smartass but vacuous blind personal shots are probably the impetus for that, since it seems I really don't agree with you. I dont know why you are so full of hate, and bitterness, and confusion and vituperation.

I do not know whether I agree with you, my position is that we should shoot down any missle eminating from North Korea, only those that the Chinese, or ROK, or Japan or somebody else hasnt shot them down and that have some chance in hell of striking our assets. It is very often incorrect to state that we agree just because we read the same thing, nearly all the time you come to the wrong interpretation of what we both read, while I always come to the correct one. I think that makes you feel inadequate.

LOL.

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RE: If North Korea fires off a missile... - 4/14/2013 10:04:37 AM

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Open sources reveal that the DPRK contacted the EU asking about assistance in case of conflict. It is not clear whether they were asking if the EU would assist them, or whether they were asking if it would assist the U.S. The request is disturbing in either case, because it is delusional to think that the EU would either help them or reveal it's military plans to them.

that's funny because EU is not a nation but it's an economical union among nations, so it can only propose a pacekeeping mission to keep safe member nations and their economy, but the EU members are all but four in the NATO, so the answer would be something like if a missle reaches south korea we let USA take care of the metter, if a missle reaches the USA 23 of our members will be involved in a war against north korea.

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RE: If North Korea fires off a missile... - 4/14/2013 12:35:17 PM

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ORIGINAL: vincentML

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ORIGINAL: blacksword404

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ORIGINAL: TheHeretic

...should we just shoot it down on principle?

If it were me and it were targeting us or our allies I'd shoot massive silos of missiles at him and knock his short ass off his high chair. I'd make sure the lines of communication were open should he live through it. He could come back to the table so we can work things out. Or he can shoot at our people and be flattened.

All this brave war talk. Same shit we heard about Saddam. He's a danger to us. We have to hit him first. What benefit did that gain us? You evidently have no memory of the last war on the Korean peninsula.

They do have nukes. He has threatened to nuke our allies. He has threatened to hit us as well. He is raising missiles into place (the equivalent of pointing guns). And you think we should do what? Beg him to be reasonable?

We have allies we have to protect. Otherwise our days of getting people to work with us are over. What good is a powerful friend if he won't lift a finger to protect you?

I wanted to add: Both the Korean and Vietnam wars were civil wars which we stuck our nose into. This is not the same situation. Kim-Kim is directly threatening the United States and it's territories in the Pacific.

We were told that Saddam had nukes and threatened us. We are told Iran has nukes and threatens our allies. We are told that al Quaida will get nukes and use them as weapons of terror. What's new? And how accurate is the intell?

No disrespect intended but Korea and Vietnam were much more complicated than simple civil wars. The Soviets and Red Chinese were heavily involved on the side of the communist regemes and Stalin was intent in expanding the Soviet Empire . . . hence, a little thing called the Cold War was in progress.

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