jlf1961
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ORIGINAL: MrRodgers We've been reading and hearing ad nauseum about how we simply must be able to keep our guns and our gun rights now even to the point where universal background checks are too much of a burden upon that right. Historically, politically and sociologically those who feel that way will tell you and also what has been ad nauseum, we need this right to protect us from the govt. I will not source this as it is something that has been in our national dialogue seems forever. So here it is gun keepers...just when do you start shooting ? I mean that's what guns are for...shooting. Presumably we need these guns for just that and to protect us from govt. Ok, so when do you start shooting police ? When do you start shooting say, the NG or the US Army ? I submit to you that our guns rights afford us no such freedom or protection. At no time will your right to keep arms, protect you from the big, bad govt. Few in this debate ever seem to really want to actually think about the actual practice and use of these guns for just such a so-called protection. What say you ? You know, this should be an easy answer, even for anti gun nuts, but since you do not grasp the concept of freedom, or when you are being oppressed, how about the following crisis points. 1) The government starts incarcerating or detaining individuals based on political, religious or ethnic reasons. 2) You can be arrested for speaking your mind on issues. 3) When you are forbidden by law for gathering to protest something. 4) Maybe you might want to start shooting when the police can kick in your door without a warrant and drag family members away. For me, I had and still have a problem with the patriot acts. I have a problem with torture. Finally I have a problem with the broad regulations concerning wire taps now in place. So let me ask you, when do you figure out that you are being oppressed?
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Boy, it sure would be nice if we had some grenades, don't you think? You cannot control who comes into your life, but you can control which airlock you throw them out of. Paranoid Paramilitary Gun Loving Conspiracy Theorist AND EQUAL OPPORTUNI
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