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RE: cuckolding - 5/4/2013 7:36:37 PM   
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Zip it pee wee


Gawdamm it I love it when she does that shit.



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Yeah well...I didn't win the lottery last week either....fuck if I can make the right decisions without help....ya know?


You lost your keys again didn't you peewee? Buy a damn basket already.

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RE: cuckolding - 5/4/2013 7:36:49 PM   
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This is just opinion but I tend to separate cuckholding with hot wife scenarios.

Actually, the experience that I was referencing was with a sub that I had several years ago. I was married to MP at the time, so the cuck that I had was *not* the primary partner. There was still an emotional attachment between My pet and I, so it still worked.




I've always seen Cuckolding and Hot Wife as opposite ends of the Dichotomy. Cuckolding is the Woman in charge. Hot Wife always seems to be Male Dominant/fem sub. I could be wrong but this is the way I've usually seen it.


I always thought of hot wife as being kind of male dom, now that you said it. It is the guy getting off on his wife being a 'slut', but that to me is not the same thing as cuckolding. It is a little different then a hot wife situation in that the cuckold male is getting off on his wife sleeping with someone else, the jealousy and arousal kind of work in tension with each other, and there are elements of humiliation to it as well, that she would prefer another man to him, he is inadequate, etc...which can exist outside a D/s, you can have a cuck thing like this where other then the time she actually sleeps with other guys in this ritual, she is not in control of him or his sexuality, he isn't chastised or not allowed to have certain kinds of sex, etc (there are relationships with those rules, and they are more D/s-ey, since the bull might forbid the wife to have let's say anal sex with hubby, only him, etc)....

A D/s would be as you put it, where you would basically say I am in charge, I am going to sleep with other guys, here are the rules, obey them...in the scenarios I am talking about, the man is a willing participant, the difference with a hot wife is he is not humiliated there, whereas with cuck if I understand it correctly humiliation to some extent is there...hot wife is simply he gets turned on by his wife sleeping with others, but he is not humiliated (or controlled), it simply excites him (and presumably her)...

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RE: cuckolding - 5/4/2013 7:45:15 PM   
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Yeah well...I didn't win the lottery last week either....fuck if I can make the right decisions without help....ya know?


You lost your keys again didn't you peewee? Buy a damn basket already.


I have my keys....(car is an entirely different question however).

Got a nice skateboard though.

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RE: cuckolding - 5/4/2013 7:46:47 PM   
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I've always seen Cuckolding and Hot Wife as opposite ends of the Dichotomy. Cuckolding is the Woman in charge. Hot Wife always seems to be Male Dominant/fem sub. I could be wrong but this is the way I've usually seen it.
Not especially disagreeing with you, but I've seen it from the non dynamic types as well. Like the kinks but not the power structure.





Lol you can certainly disagree. All of life is about perception. This is simply the way I see it. I don't see it as a kink though in any way. It is simply who I am, what I do. It is the way it will be. Simple as that.

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RE: cuckolding - 5/4/2013 7:49:39 PM   
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This is just opinion but I tend to separate cuckholding with hot wife scenarios.

Actually, the experience that I was referencing was with a sub that I had several years ago. I was married to MP at the time, so the cuck that I had was *not* the primary partner. There was still an emotional attachment between My pet and I, so it still worked.




I've always seen Cuckolding and Hot Wife as opposite ends of the Dichotomy. Cuckolding is the Woman in charge. Hot Wife always seems to be Male Dominant/fem sub. I could be wrong but this is the way I've usually seen it.


I always thought of hot wife as being kind of male dom, now that you said it. It is the guy getting off on his wife being a 'slut', but that to me is not the same thing as cuckolding. It is a little different then a hot wife situation in that the cuckold male is getting off on his wife sleeping with someone else, the jealousy and arousal kind of work in tension with each other, and there are elements of humiliation to it as well, that she would prefer another man to him, he is inadequate, etc...which can exist outside a D/s, you can have a cuck thing like this where other then the time she actually sleeps with other guys in this ritual, she is not in control of him or his sexuality, he isn't chastised or not allowed to have certain kinds of sex, etc (there are relationships with those rules, and they are more D/s-ey, since the bull might forbid the wife to have let's say anal sex with hubby, only him, etc)....

A D/s would be as you put it, where you would basically say I am in charge, I am going to sleep with other guys, here are the rules, obey them...in the scenarios I am talking about, the man is a willing participant, the difference with a hot wife is he is not humiliated there, whereas with cuck if I understand it correctly humiliation to some extent is there...hot wife is simply he gets turned on by his wife sleeping with others, but he is not humiliated (or controlled), it simply excites him (and presumably her)...



Well said. Exactly that. I put the cards on the table from day 1 so that there is never any surprises. The only choice they have is to stay or leave. If the cuck enjoys it that's a bonus for him. If he hates it...well...that is his issue since he knew this was the way it would be when he signed on.

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RE: cuckolding - 5/4/2013 7:51:03 PM   
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Yeah well...I didn't win the lottery last week either....fuck if I can make the right decisions without help....ya know?


You lost your keys again didn't you peewee? Buy a damn basket already.


I have my keys....(car is an entirely different question however).

Got a nice skateboard though.


You lost your car? smdh pee wee....wth?

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RE: cuckolding - 5/4/2013 7:52:31 PM   
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I've always seen Cuckolding and Hot Wife as opposite ends of the Dichotomy. Cuckolding is the Woman in charge. Hot Wife always seems to be Male Dominant/fem sub. I could be wrong but this is the way I've usually seen it.
Not especially disagreeing with you, but I've seen it from the non dynamic types as well. Like the kinks but not the power structure.





Lol you can certainly disagree. All of life is about perception. This is simply the way I see it. I don't see it as a kink though in any way. It is simply who I am, what I do. It is the way it will be. Simple as that.


Check your damn Cmail!

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RE: cuckolding - 5/4/2013 7:54:12 PM   
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Yeah well...I didn't win the lottery last week either....fuck if I can make the right decisions without help....ya know?


You lost your keys again didn't you peewee? Buy a damn basket already.


I have my keys....(car is an entirely different question however).

Got a nice skateboard though.


You lost your car? smdh pee wee....wth?


I have several cars...it's not like it's a huge loss. They all drive kinda the same. They all have left and right blinkers and all....

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RE: cuckolding - 5/4/2013 8:06:06 PM   
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I've always seen Cuckolding and Hot Wife as opposite ends of the Dichotomy. Cuckolding is the Woman in charge. Hot Wife always seems to be Male Dominant/fem sub. I could be wrong but this is the way I've usually seen it.

Kind of like Hot Wife = the male Dom agreeing with and getting off on his sub or wife f*cking others. Cuckolding = the Domme or woman owning not only her sexuality but the cuck's as well. Hot wife = the man in charge and Cuckolding = the woman in charge......

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RE: cuckolding - 5/4/2013 8:22:32 PM   
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I've always seen Cuckolding and Hot Wife as opposite ends of the Dichotomy. Cuckolding is the Woman in charge. Hot Wife always seems to be Male Dominant/fem sub. I could be wrong but this is the way I've usually seen it.

Kind of like Hot Wife = the male Dom agreeing with and getting off on his sub or wife f*cking others. Cuckolding = the Domme or woman owning not only her sexuality but the cuck's as well. Hot wife = the man in charge and Cuckolding = the woman in charge......

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Yes that is how I have always seen it. I would go a step further even in that hotwife is Male Dominated to the extent that he controls it, sets it up and makes all the decisions for his sub female. all for his pleasure and her humiliation. a voyuer things more.

Cuckholding Female led and controlled. including to the extent the male cuck participates which can vary greatly according to the relationship and what she desires.

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RE: cuckolding - 5/4/2013 8:23:34 PM   
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I've always seen Cuckolding and Hot Wife as opposite ends of the Dichotomy. Cuckolding is the Woman in charge. Hot Wife always seems to be Male Dominant/fem sub. I could be wrong but this is the way I've usually seen it.
Not especially disagreeing with you, but I've seen it from the non dynamic types as well. Like the kinks but not the power structure.





Lol you can certainly disagree. All of life is about perception. This is simply the way I see it. I don't see it as a kink though in any way. It is simply who I am, what I do. It is the way it will be. Simple as that.


Check your damn Cmail!



pee wee is that how we ask for things? I think not. Try again. Politely.

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RE: cuckolding - 5/4/2013 9:21:44 PM   
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Lol you can certainly disagree. All of life is about perception. This is simply the way I see it. I don't see it as a kink though in any way. It is simply who I am, what I do. It is the way it will be. Simple as that.
I don't see the dynamic type as a kink. I think a lot of kinks (humiliation, voyeurism, etc) can be incorporated into it. Cuckholding itself I just see as a particular type of F/m.

Other people are different. I never considered the bull having the authority in the situation where I was involved. I was always the one who was making the decisions. Then again, that's the basis of any dynamic for Me. Some bulls get off on taking part of some of the kink aspects that might be included but I've never considered that necessarily being in charge.



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RE: cuckolding - 5/4/2013 9:54:50 PM   
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I've always seen Cuckolding and Hot Wife as opposite ends of the Dichotomy. Cuckolding is the Woman in charge. Hot Wife always seems to be Male Dominant/fem sub. I could be wrong but this is the way I've usually seen it.
Not especially disagreeing with you, but I've seen it from the non dynamic types as well. Like the kinks but not the power structure.





Lol you can certainly disagree. All of life is about perception. This is simply the way I see it. I don't see it as a kink though in any way. It is simply who I am, what I do. It is the way it will be. Simple as that.


Check your damn Cmail!



pee wee is that how we ask for things? I think not. Try again. Politely.


I forgot my Miss Manners book at the office.

(Gawd I hate that when that happens).

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RE: cuckolding - 5/5/2013 12:13:32 AM   
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Lol you can certainly disagree. All of life is about perception. This is simply the way I see it. I don't see it as a kink though in any way. It is simply who I am, what I do. It is the way it will be. Simple as that.
I don't see the dynamic type as a kink. I think a lot of kinks (humiliation, voyeurism, etc) can be incorporated into it. Cuckholding itself I just see as a particular type of F/m.

Other people are different. I never considered the bull having the authority in the situation where I was involved. I was always the one who was making the decisions. Then again, that's the basis of any dynamic for Me. Some bulls get off on taking part of some of the kink aspects that might be included but I've never considered that necessarily being in charge.




Yep. I'm always going to be the one directing, controlling etc no matter who is involved.

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RE: cuckolding - 5/5/2013 10:04:09 AM   
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RE: cuckolding - 5/5/2013 8:54:56 PM   
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In F/m I would think the woman would be in charge and not the bull, after all she's in charge of the dynamic. She's in charge of not only her sexuality but the cuck's too....and, for that matter, whether she actually has a bull or not, not that the cuck would know if she doesn't really. After all, it's her sex and she's in charge of who gets it and who doesn't. As it should be.

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If it is strictly the woman is dominant, then yes, you would be correct. But there are also cuckold relationships from what I understand where the F is a sub herself to the bull, where she is under his control, which affects the nature of the cuck relationship. In some extreme cases that I have heard of (on the net, so whether all these are real accounts I have no way of knowing) the Bull has the woman cut off the cuck entirely, where the only thing he can do is manual release...in a sense, the cuck becomes sub to the bull, too.....I am sure there are other variations, there are a lot of possibilities. Some of the things I have read about turned me off big time, but it is their life, not mine;).

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RE: cuckolding - 5/5/2013 9:03:29 PM   
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Status: offline 		It is interesting how the cuck dynamic plays out, just thought of something, how context makes such a difference. So a domme is married, is poly, and she has a sub she cucks, has sex with other people and they are aware of it as part of the D/s dynamic, and it is cuckolding, but with the primary partner, it is simply part of the poly dynamic and it not cuckolding....it is interesting how context makes such a difference (and yeah, LadyP got me thinking of this, though I don't know if her experience with cuckolding happened when she was married to MP:). It is one of those things where so much is up in the mind, because, for example, a D can have sex with people other than her sub, and it may not be cuckolding in either her or her sub's mind, it is simply a form of poly I guess:)

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RE: cuckolding - 5/5/2013 9:09:30 PM   
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But there are also cuckold relationships from what I understand where the F is a sub herself to the bull, where she is under his control, which affects the nature of the cuck relationship. In some extreme cases that I have heard of (on the net, so whether all these are real accounts I have no way of knowing) the Bull has the woman cut off the cuck entirely, where the only thing he can do is manual release...in a sense, the cuck becomes sub to the bull, too.....I am sure there are other variations, there are a lot of possibilities. Some of the things I have read about turned me off big time, but it is their life, not mine;).
It's important to acknowledge that cuckoldry is not for the fairnt of heart, or the pure monogamists=true love believers.
If we stipulate that monogamous lovers have no room for cuckold relationships, and we further agree that cuckoldry is not a hateful move, but one simply meaning, the submissive/slave submits at her pleasure, than making sense of it in the romantic sence, does not hold water.

I don't believe that what you've described above can be called cuckoldry at all. If there is any Bull in the equation, he is there to add some humiliation to th submissive cuckold. My style, were I to involve in one, would be about my desires, and freedoms; not at all, what it looks like, or feels like to the submissive in the relationship.
Cuckoldry is a fem dom option, should she desire to exercise it/live it. The dominant lady, decides the will owh her sexuality, and his. She determines that while she is with this man/submissive, she runs her life, sexuality, world

She determines that she would like to take on other lovers (past/presemt/one night, etc.), and does so, without any complaints from her man/submissive. M

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RE: cuckolding - 5/6/2013 9:25:35 AM   
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This is exactly how I have always explained it. I decide who what where and when. he (the cuck) has no say in the matter. he can choose to accept it or not but I am very clear on this is how it will be. Whether it is once in a year or 7x in a week is not the point at all. It is that I will control and determine my sexual pleasure based solely on my desires. I control his as well. I am a huge proponent of chastity and controlled orgasms.

While cuckolding can cover a myriad of dichotomies according to the two involved. In my life it is what I say it is. he has no choice in the matter beyond his choice in sharing my life with me.

Good to see you again. I missed you and the boards at times over the past few years.

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RE: cuckolding - 5/6/2013 9:30:44 AM   
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In F/m I would think the woman would be in charge and not the bull, after all she's in charge of the dynamic. She's in charge of not only her sexuality but the cuck's too....and, for that matter, whether she actually has a bull or not, not that the cuck would know if she doesn't really. After all, it's her sex and she's in charge of who gets it and who doesn't. As it should be.

NBMG


If it is strictly the woman is dominant, then yes, you would be correct. But there are also cuckold relationships from what I understand where the F is a sub herself to the bull, where she is under his control, which affects the nature of the cuck relationship. In some extreme cases that I have heard of (on the net, so whether all these are real accounts I have no way of knowing) the Bull has the woman cut off the cuck entirely, where the only thing he can do is manual release...in a sense, the cuck becomes sub to the bull, too.....I am sure there are other variations, there are a lot of possibilities. Some of the things I have read about turned me off big time, but it is their life, not mine;).


My version of cuckolding and BTF's version and LP's version may all differ in minor ways but in the end it is about Our taking control of Our sexual freedoms and celebrating our sexual pleasures however we see fit. JMO NBMG's last line..which I bolded is the crux of it. well said.

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