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iamwhoiamabc123 -> RE: How can I be the perfect straight sub? (5/9/2013 6:16:14 PM)
Are you even of higher eduaction do me a favor and research what a quantitative study is. Its not just facts and figures and if you dont knopw how to measure reasons all that shows is that you have no fucking clue what your talking about. quote: ORIGINAL: evesgrden quote: To answer your question I'm measuring reasons behind submissive activity. Not only do you lie, you lie badly. If you're going to bullshit your way through something you need at least a cursory familiarity with the subject matter. Clearly you know nothing of d/s, let alone the scientific method. You're going to measure "reasons".. sheesh. More to be pitied than laughed at.

iamwhoiamabc123 -> RE: How can I be the perfect straight sub? (5/9/2013 6:19:35 PM)
lol you dont meed the scientific method for a quantitative study... you should really think before you type... Please explain the scientific method, try not to Google it ok... Try to really use your brain.

iamwhoiamabc123 -> RE: How can I be the perfect straight sub? (5/9/2013 6:25:21 PM)
Your not even in the right field of study when talking about the scientific method.

lizi -> RE: How can I be the perfect straight sub? (5/9/2013 6:32:53 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: iamwhoiamabc123 Are you even of higher eduaction do me a favor and research what a quantitative study is. Its not just facts and figures and if you dont knopw how to measure reasons all that shows is that you have no fucking clue what your talking about. OP, you are not of a "higher"education yourself and can not make that call on anyone else since you have no personal knowledge of it. You may understand some of the terms you are throwing about, but that doesn't mean squat. You're not a college student, your writing is too abysmal to have gotten you accepted to any institute of higher learning, unless it was the local community college- even that is a stretch. No one is buying your lies or backpedalling spins on the holes you keep digging for yourself. It's amusing however to see the tantrums so feel free to keep whining!

LafayetteLady -> RE: How can I be the perfect straight sub? (5/9/2013 6:47:16 PM)
Hey, don't knock community colleges. The local one here is one of the top 10 in the nation. Which puts it above many "universities."

LadyPact -> RE: How can I be the perfect straight sub? (5/9/2013 6:50:24 PM)
OP, just to keep this all straight, I don't feel that it is necessary for Me to have to send you email to say don't reprint stuff that I say on the forums. The site actually owns what gets said here, anyway. I'm not going to go back to find the post that you made about you couldn't go to events in your local community because they were 21 and up and then you say later that you'll just get your info by attending your local group. Some groups allow people your age and others don't and both can be true for different groups in the same location. Here's something else that varies. Some BDSM/munch groups require members to sign a waiver prior to attending events where the actual kink stuff happens. One group that I've belonged to in the past has kept their clause that says you verify in signing the document that you are not a) a member of law enforcement attending the group in an official capacity and b) not a member who will be using the information obtained as a member of the group to be reported elsewhere. Something you might want to keep in mind if you are specifically only going to do research for a paper.

lizi -> RE: How can I be the perfect straight sub? (5/9/2013 7:13:16 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: LafayetteLady Hey, don't knock community colleges. The local one here is one of the top 10 in the nation. Which puts it above many "universities." Goodness no, I'm not knocking community colleges at all. I'll be graduating from one in a matter of weeks and I've never worked so hard in my life as I have in their top rated medical program. I just meant that the bar is lower for getting in, and general studies there are generally an option for kids who can't make the cut for a 4 year college.

SeekingTrinity -> RE: How can I be the perfect straight sub? (5/9/2013 7:25:13 PM)
~FRing it~ When did "wank fodder" become a major option at university? Because Im just not buying the whole "this is for college" bullshit

TwoHeartsBeatOne -> RE: How can I be the perfect straight sub? (5/9/2013 7:33:44 PM)
Horrific manners and poor spelling and grammar aside, is anyone else here getting the idea that this OP is under-aged? I refer to maturity level, to the misuse of terms pertaining to academia (OP clearly doesn't know how to describe mixed methods research) and to the changing "stories."

LadyPact -> RE: How can I be the perfect straight sub? (5/9/2013 8:03:05 PM)
Considering the first pic that was posted, I'm really hoping not underage.

lizi -> RE: How can I be the perfect straight sub? (5/9/2013 8:21:52 PM)
Who says the picture was of the OP? I'm voting for underage, the maturity level and constant spinning of stories points to that. The whole thing really reminds of me of Ghostman - who was an underage as they come.

LadyPact -> RE: How can I be the perfect straight sub? (5/9/2013 8:27:19 PM)
OK. Rewording. If that pic was of the OP and he's underage, I can promise that I don't want to be subjected to that.

cloudboy -> RE: How can I be the perfect straight sub? (5/9/2013 8:54:08 PM)
Cobbled together from years of reading the board and a BDSM lite secondary relationship. I've been conducing a little experiment of late writing to random femdoms with short, friendlish PMs trying to get an exchange going. Right now I am 0-12 on responses. Its like being a door-to-door salesman with a bad product. (Like an idiot, too, I've even offered advice to others trying to connect to Femdoms when I'm batting .000. Does it all boil down to massage & gourmet cooking classes coupled with a handsome photo and lot's of money to burn? ) In the back of my mind I'm thinking about all the military sexual assault cases backlogging in the system (over 7000) -- and those female experiences with unwanted male attention in the military-- bear some resemblance to a F's CM Inbox.

littleclip -> RE: How can I be the perfect straight sub? (5/9/2013 9:21:15 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: cloudboy Cobbled together from years of reading the board and a BDSM lite secondary relationship. I've been conducing a little experiment of late writing to random femdoms with short, friendlish PMs trying to get an exchange going. Right now I am 0-12 on responses. Its like being a door-to-door salesman with a bad product. (Like an idiot, too, I've even offered advice to others trying to connect to Femdoms when I'm batting .000. Does it all boil down to massage & gourmet cooking classes coupled with a handsome photo and lot's of money to burn? ) quote: In the back of my mind I'm thinking about all the military sexual assault cases backlogging in the system (over 7000) -- and those female experiences with unwanted male attention in the military not just backlog but no charges and yes rape being a hazard of the job actualy used in a decision

LadyPact -> RE: How can I be the perfect straight sub? (5/9/2013 10:16:48 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: cloudboy Cobbled together from years of reading the board and a BDSM lite secondary relationship. I've been conducing a little experiment of late writing to random femdoms with short, friendlish PMs trying to get an exchange going. Right now I am 0-12 on responses. Its like being a door-to-door salesman with a bad product. (Like an idiot, too, I've even offered advice to others trying to connect to Femdoms when I'm batting .000. Does it all boil down to massage & gourmet cooking classes coupled with a handsome photo and lot's of money to burn? ) In the back of my mind I'm thinking about all the military sexual assault cases backlogging in the system (over 7000) -- and those female experiences with unwanted male attention in the military-- bear some resemblance to a F's CM Inbox. It was a good post. One of your better ones, I believe. Also, I'm curious as to when you started the experiment over again? I know I don't count because I've always answered your messages before.

LadyPact -> RE: How can I be the perfect straight sub? (5/10/2013 2:37:18 AM)
A few points to address......... No, you don't have to prove that you are an adult to the posters on the boards. However, if people are reporting you as underage, Admin is within their right to have you prove it to them. The site takes a really tough stand on not allowing people under 18 here. (Remember that ToS link. You find that part under section five.) Next, let Me introduce you to a concept called thread drift. That is what they call it when the conversation of a thread includes conversation among the participants. Some thread drift is a natural progression and the Mods allow us to do that here. As long as your question was answered by a responder in one of their posts, they/we are allowed to continue talking to you, or any of the other folks on the thread about related comments. We're not locked in to only talking about the original post. Truthfully, you're just as guilty of not staying on the topic of the thread just as much as anyone else. Best of luck with that pot calling the kettle black thing. The thread got a lot of views. Anybody on these boards can tell you that any kind of trollish behavior, people acting poorly, blowing up at other posters, etc is going to draw more attention to the thread. Also, the number of views isn't one time per poster. For example, I've kept up with the course of the thread, so every time I've posted to it, or came back to read what other people had to say, that gets counted each time I've looked at it. The FAQ thread isn't an active discussion, so people only need to read that once. The Mods aren't going to close the thread. The bulk of the thread is well within forum guidelines so there's no reason for them to do that. Mods don't close threads just because the original poster doesn't like the answers they receive. This is a good thing, though. It allows anybody who hits that nice "view forum posts" button should they come across your profile and get this example of how you interact with others. I'm not going for the bit about how you are so much smarter you are than the posters here. You wouldn't be here if you didn't want the knowledge that we have. Some of the people on these boards have been actively involved in BDSM longer than you've been alive. Like it or not, that's worth something, too. Oh, and since you want to play the age card so much, I'll let you in on another thing. When the next eighteen year old comes along and creates a thread asking why they aren't taken seriously, and I promise you that those threads come up often here, it's threads like this one that get pulled up and linked to show the example of why most people here won't.

iamwhoiamabc123 -> RE: How can I be the perfect straight sub? (5/10/2013 8:26:05 AM)
Good point quote: ORIGINAL: LadyPact A few points to address......... No, you don't have to prove that you are an adult to the posters on the boards. However, if people are reporting you as underage, Admin is within their right to have you prove it to them. The site takes a really tough stand on not allowing people under 18 here. (Remember that ToS link. You find that part under section five.) Next, let Me introduce you to a concept called thread drift. That is what they call it when the conversation of a thread includes conversation among the participants. Some thread drift is a natural progression and the Mods allow us to do that here. As long as your question was answered by a responder in one of their posts, they/we are allowed to continue talking to you, or any of the other folks on the thread about related comments. We're not locked in to only talking about the original post. Truthfully, you're just as guilty of not staying on the topic of the thread just as much as anyone else. Best of luck with that pot calling the kettle black thing. The thread got a lot of views. Anybody on these boards can tell you that any kind of trollish behavior, people acting poorly, blowing up at other posters, etc is going to draw more attention to the thread. Also, the number of views isn't one time per poster. For example, I've kept up with the course of the thread, so every time I've posted to it, or came back to read what other people had to say, that gets counted each time I've looked at it. The FAQ thread isn't an active discussion, so people only need to read that once. The Mods aren't going to close the thread. The bulk of the thread is well within forum guidelines so there's no reason for them to do that. Mods don't close threads just because the original poster doesn't like the answers they receive. This is a good thing, though. It allows anybody who hits that nice "view forum posts" button should they come across your profile and get this example of how you interact with others. I'm not going for the bit about how you are so much smarter you are than the posters here. You wouldn't be here if you didn't want the knowledge that we have. Some of the people on these boards have been actively involved in BDSM longer than you've been alive. Like it or not, that's worth something, too. Oh, and since you want to play the age card so much, I'll let you in on another thing. When the next eighteen year old comes along and creates a thread asking why they aren't taken seriously, and I promise you that those threads come up often here, it's threads like this one that get pulled up and linked to show the example of why most people here won't.

evesgrden -> RE: How can I be the perfect straight sub? (5/10/2013 1:44:52 PM)
Apparently I quoted a post that had to be deleted, but I was asked to repost it so here it is. a response to the OP's psost about being picked on and a host of other issues that evoked his moral indignation. 1. An 18 year old kid who has temper tantrums. You're 18. Are you a kid or not? If you're a kid you'll get to sent to your room for a time out till the tanturm is done plus 15 minutes of silence. Then you'll be expected to apologize, explain what you did wrong, what you'll do differently in the future when similar circumstances arise, and then depending on the nature of your tantrum, whom it affected and how, you may be required to do some restitution. Having a temper disqualifies you from even being a lousy submissive. 2. An 18 year old kid who is impatient. Submissives at times require extreme amount of patience. See the last sentence in the above paragraph. Note: Feeling angry or feeling impatient is part of being human. How you handle these feelings and express them seperates those people who are worth being around and interacting with... and those who are not. 3. My post's relevance. I challenged your reason for being here. It started out being about how to be a submissive bitch. Then it became a research paper. Now it's about an impatient desire and has nothing to do with academic inquiry. A submissive that is not honest...well, see that last sentence in Item 1 about being disqualified? Yeah, that. I'd love to hear an operational definition for "reasons" and an operational definiton for "submissive activity". Are you here for that, or how to be a submissive? Which one if either is true? If you can't be trusted to be direct and tell the truth, then being a lousy submissive is too lofty a goal for you. 4. An 18 year being smarter than I am. There are so many 18 year olds who are smarter than I that I wouldn't even bother to begin to count them. I have no problem with that at all. This isn't about your IQ. It's about your behavior. That said, you've not given me any reason thus far to consider your intelligence to be remarkable in any way. If in fact you are above average, your emotionality precludes any objectivity or demonstration of robust thinking. 5. You pity us. I don't sense an iota of compassion or sadness from you. Being disingenous ... last sentence, paragraph 1. Yeah, that again. Now editing to add: You want to know about my background? Frankly, it's moot. I could be a high school dropout, but either my words have merit or they don't. Simple as that. That said, I have a graduate degree from CWRU, was President of the Student's Association, Valedictorian, was recipient of various awards, got all A's except for 1 B. Whoopie shit. I can be an asshole as much as anyone. I can be wrong as much as anyone, perhaps more than most. One of my favorite sayings is that I hate making the same mistake twice... why? Because there are so many new ones to explore. I want to be the small fish in the big pond, where someone's thinking makes me go "wow... cool", where someone's able to change my mind about a long held belief, and make such a compelling arguement that I can't help but revise my thinking. Cool. That's a cerebral O to the nth degree. Yes Pavlov, ringing that bell makes me salivate. So either my words ring true or they don't. They're verifiable or they're not. Or I'm wrong, mistaken, have simply forgotten, misspoke. I'm good with any of that. I can be wrong and screw up and it doesn't affect my value as a human being. Threatened by those around me being smart? I revel in it. And that doesn't make me wonderful or smart in any way whatsoever. Plenty of assholes running around wth letters after their names and not a whit of common sense. But you seemed to need some evidence of credentials. My best friend dropped out of school mid way through Grade 10. One of the most literate and well read individuals I've ever known. Sidney Poitier has a Grade 6 education. He reads 6 newspapers every day. We judge people by their conduct. Your conduct... has left me feeling rather judgemental.

iamwhoiamabc123 -> RE: How can I be the perfect straight sub? (5/10/2013 2:11:21 PM)
Ok so apparently i post are being deleted by admins without eve telling me.

iamwhoiamabc123 -> RE: How can I be the perfect straight sub? (5/10/2013 2:21:40 PM)
My method for gather personal testimonials is not flawed I will explain now, by listening to personal experiences I gain a more complete awareness of how multiple kink play activity works. It is important however to point out that personal experience can only go so far as theoretical explanations and statistical information is what leads to actual literature reviews within in a proper paper. Pros: - By listening to personal experiences I am able to hear different perspectives on any given aspect on life. - By listening to personal experiences I am able to identify personal stereotypical social constructions of reality within the category I'm making of "kink." - By listening to personal experiences I am able to see the matrix of domination and how personal experiences can interrelate with factual and theoretical information. (Ore, Tracey 2006) Cons: - Personal information is biased and cannot be measured to the point of supplying statistical information or applicable academic material. - Personal information cannot always be used in a paper, as some sites of property rights over said material. - Personal information is only as good as the person telling the story. (Which in this case is severely disappointing) So I am going to repost this now I want to formally apologize for my actions against all of you there are certain people here that have tried to help and seek reason out of my words, but I have been too stupid to see past my own perceptions. People like Evesgrden, SeekingTrinity, LadyPact, Cloudboy, Lizi, and even LafayetteLady all showed a reasonable amount of trust and guidance even through my childish acts against you all. I again am sorry for my actions and hope to come to a better relationship with all of you in the future, as it seems this thread is not going anywhere fast. I feel as if I will use this thread as a prime example of what not to do in a thread, but also use this thread to attract people in. I feel if people have questions, a lot of attention is attracted to this thread so if you have common factors related to what a sub should be like. Post them here and I’m sure it would be well within the guidelines of the moderators’ rules.

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