tweakabelle
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Yes, the western media are willing dupes of Hamas. Hilarious claim. The only thing demonstrated by this claim is the extent of denial by fanatical about the excesses of their precious Israel and its murderous IDF. Any one making a claim like this has no credibility on this issue. Wrong. I was in the ME several times both during my military service and afterwords as a tourist. I've actually seen the West Bank and Jerusalem and know the conditions on the ground for both the Israelis and the Palestinians. I know that Hamas lies at every turn. Not a shred of evidence to support your claim that "the western media are willing dupes of Hamas". Are you seriously suggesting that media organisations with international reputations and stature such as the BBC, New York Times, Reuters, Le Monde, The US public radio station etc are "willing dupes of Hamas"? Are you seriously suggesting that media owners like the staunchly pro-Zionist Rupert Murdoch is a "dupe" of Hamas? Murdoch ensures that every single one of his multiple media organisations internationally run a strong pro-Israel line. Is this what you mean by a "willing dupe"? Do you really think that, apart from other fanatical Zionists, people exist who are idiotic and gullible enough to believe this? Your claim is nonsense, a fiction dreamt up to avoid having to deal with the content of the BBC's reporting the IDF's cold blooded murders of 2 tiny tots, and their crippling of a third sister, and shooting their grandmother. Is this your commitment to the truth? According to the logic you expounded above (such as it is) telling barefaced lies like " the western media are willing dupes of Hamas" puts you the same moral cesspit as Hamas, whom you accuse of telling "lies at every turn." No need to think too hard about who is really the dupe here, is there? Israel collects useful idiots prepared to unquestioningly swallow and regurgitate anything it says hook line and sinker. quote:
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I am not a zionist About as credible as the claim I have just considered above. quote:
I am not a zionist and am certainly not a right winger. I simply despise terroists and anyone who supports terrorists, like you. Your posts here are and always have been a litany of talking points and mantras straight from the Israeli looney Right. For example your denial of apartheid conditions in the West Bank and your specific denial that some Hebron's streets are racially segregated (open to Jews only) is shown to be false by: this video of colonists/settlers stroll along the road while the IDF forces Palestinians to walk in the ditch ;or this video made by a member of the European Parliament; or this report by TIPH, an international civilian observer mission; "In 1994, the once main market street of Hebron, Al-Shuhada street was closed by military order for Palestinian vehicles and pedestrians. According to the Hebron Protocols from 1997, the street should be re-opened to Palestinians. This was partially implemented in 1997 and 1998. However, since the outbreak of the Second Intifada in 2000, the street has again been closed for Palestinians." (emphasis added) http://www.tiph.org/en/About_Hebron/Hebron_today/ There are many more such videos and reports available on YouTube and google if people care to look. Whether you call yourself a Zionist or not is immaterial when you tell such blatant lies in a pathetic attempt to make Israel look good, or when you accuse me others of supporting terrorism or Hamas despite knowing full well that we don't and have said so on many occasions. You place yourself in the Zionist camp, you sound like a Zionist, you say the things Zionist say, you repeat the lies Zionists spread, you play the anti-Semitic card promiscuously. Long time posters here will recall that your abuse of those who dare to criticise Israel is legendary for its vitriol and venom. For all intents and purposes the difference between your discourse and Zionist discourse is microscopic. So by all means carry on with the charade that you aren't a fanatical Zionist. It's your credibility (such as it is) which is at stake here, not mine or that of others who support human rights and anti-racism and so must be critics of Israeli ethnic cleansing and apartheid. What's one more lie to add to all the others?
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