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Politesub53 -> Yet another campus shooting. (6/7/2013 5:18:14 PM)

It is so sad this continues, whatever the reason.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-22823290




DomKen -> RE: Yet another campus shooting. (6/7/2013 5:22:44 PM)

Never let t be said the Americans learn from the past.




thishereboi -> RE: Yet another campus shooting. (6/8/2013 6:25:05 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Politesub53

It is so sad this continues, whatever the reason.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-22823290



You right it is very sad. But I am a bit confused about why you called it a campus shooting. while he did end up on campus, he started at a house and nothing in the story implied it had anything to do with the college. I think the whole situation is bad enough without trying to make it sound worse.




Rule -> RE: Yet another campus shooting. (6/8/2013 6:33:54 AM)

FR

Looks to me like the gunman desired suicide by cop.




kdsub -> RE: Yet another campus shooting. (6/8/2013 7:51:05 AM)

I have given up thinking there will ever be rational thought about guns in America. It is an impossible situation with no solution. We are a selfish people that are not willing to give up some rights to stop or lessen the human toll of gun deaths by accident or insanity.

So I hope the thread does not go down that path… we have been there too many useless times.

When the details come out I’m sure we will find another mentally ill human that managed to obtain a weapon yet he, or friends and family, could not obtain the medical help he needed to prevent this tragedy.

I try… I really try to understand people that demand access to efficient killing devices yet refuse to allow the proper checks to insure the mentally ill cannot use them to kill themselves and innocents. At the same time refuse to fund medical treatment for the mentally ill.

It is the same mentality, and often the same group, that is against abortion yet at the same time against birth control.

Fuck...it is hard for a patriot like me to admit that at times I am ashamed of my countrymen...and hell... ashamed of myself for not trying to do more to right this wrong.

Butch




cordeliasub -> RE: Yet another campus shooting. (6/8/2013 7:59:51 AM)

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When the details come out I’m sure we will find another mentally ill humane that managed to obtain a weapon yet could not obtain the medical help he needed to prevent this tragedy.


I am afraid you may be right.




tazzygirl -> RE: Yet another campus shooting. (6/8/2013 8:00:22 AM)


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ORIGINAL: thishereboi


quote:

ORIGINAL: Politesub53

It is so sad this continues, whatever the reason.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-22823290



You right it is very sad. But I am a bit confused about why you called it a campus shooting. while he did end up on campus, he started at a house and nothing in the story implied it had anything to do with the college. I think the whole situation is bad enough without trying to make it sound worse.


he reported it as the news is reporting it.. a campus shooting... because shots were made on campus.. people were killed on campus.... the man hijacked a car and forced the woman to drive him to the campus....

Taking your assessment, the shooting at Sandy Hook wasnt a school shooting because his rampage began in a house as well.




Politesub53 -> RE: Yet another campus shooting. (6/8/2013 10:33:27 AM)


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ORIGINAL: thishereboi

You right it is very sad. But I am a bit confused about why you called it a campus shooting. while he did end up on campus, he started at a house and nothing in the story implied it had anything to do with the college. I think the whole situation is bad enough without trying to make it sound worse.


I dont see how stating where it ended up makes it any worse. The headlines at the time said six dead in campus shooting, so you need to phone them and make your point.




BamaD -> RE: Yet another campus shooting. (6/8/2013 1:23:51 PM)

More inaccurate reporting, and again the errors are on the side to make it even worse than it was, makes for better ratings.




tazzygirl -> RE: Yet another campus shooting. (6/8/2013 1:27:17 PM)

Im sorry, how is the reporting inaccurate?




BamaD -> RE: Yet another campus shooting. (6/8/2013 1:51:03 PM)


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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

Im sorry, how is the reporting inaccurate?

First story I saw said 6 dead plus the shooter now it is 5 including the shooter.
Headlines made it appear that the school was the target, as was pointed out above that may well not have been the case.




Edwynn -> RE: Yet another campus shooting. (6/8/2013 1:53:01 PM)


~FR~

OK, why are people carping about whether it was a campus shooting or not?

The last two mass murders where initiated before the gunman ventured onto any elementary school or college grounds.

Can we not recognize progress, here?

You pessimists, really ...




tazzygirl -> RE: Yet another campus shooting. (6/8/2013 2:06:50 PM)


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ORIGINAL: BamaD


quote:

ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

Im sorry, how is the reporting inaccurate?

First story I saw said 6 dead plus the shooter now it is 5 including the shooter.
Headlines made it appear that the school was the target, as was pointed out above that may well not have been the case.


Since he forced a woman to drive him to the college... I would say yes, the campus was his target.




BamaD -> RE: Yet another campus shooting. (6/8/2013 4:05:18 PM)


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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl


quote:

ORIGINAL: BamaD


quote:

ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

Im sorry, how is the reporting inaccurate?

First story I saw said 6 dead plus the shooter now it is 5 including the shooter.
Headlines made it appear that the school was the target, as was pointed out above that may well not have been the case.


Since he forced a woman to drive him to the college... I would say yes, the campus was his target.

It may have been although the accounts sound like he went someplace were the cops would find and kill him quick. Also there seems to be an accomplice whom ne may have met at the school.
Facts are too jumbled to be sure about anything except there are 4 people and one monster dead.




tazzygirl -> RE: Yet another campus shooting. (6/8/2013 4:08:47 PM)

The incidence with the car is pretty solid.

The rest, not that much different than the other school shooting..... Sandy Hook started with the death of the mother in their home.




BamaD -> RE: Yet another campus shooting. (6/8/2013 4:17:27 PM)


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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

The incidence with the car is pretty solid.

The rest, not that much different than the other school shooting..... Sandy Hook started with the death of the mother in their home.

I am aware of that. Let's see if there was an accomplice and what he has to say.
Even by mass shooting standards this is weird.




Politesub53 -> RE: Yet another campus shooting. (6/8/2013 4:24:14 PM)

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ORIGINAL: BamaD

More inaccurate reporting, and again the errors are on the side to make it even worse than it was, makes for better ratings.


So tell me what news flash is ever 100% accurate

Thats why its called "breaking news" ffs.

Edits to add....... I have to smile at someone who claims to have worked in law enforcement not knowing what "intial reports" mean.






BamaD -> RE: Yet another campus shooting. (6/8/2013 5:14:57 PM)

I have to smile at someone who claims to have worked in law enforcement not knowing what "intial reports" mean. ( Haven't had your quota of snark today?)

It means wait till they find out what actually happened




Lucylastic -> RE: Yet another campus shooting. (6/8/2013 5:35:59 PM)

Who gives out these initial reports TO the press?




jlf1961 -> RE: Yet another campus shooting. (6/8/2013 5:39:12 PM)

Here we go again, someone is sure to post a "Get rid of privately owned guns and this will stop" thread.




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