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Mitt Romney says he lost because Obama outspent him - 6/7/2013 5:59:49 PM

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Despite having virtually the same amount of campaign cash available to the campaign and significantly more if outside groups are included Romney had this to say about why he lost in November

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"I think he had as many as 10 times the number of ground workers, paid staff, that we had, because he could afford them and we couldn't," he said.

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2013/06/06/romney-talks-christie-irs-2016/?hpt=hp_t2

And just to prove that Romney wasn't running some sort of shoestring campaign unable to match the President.
http://elections.nytimes.com/2012/campaign-finance

This is what is wrong with the conservative movement. Facts are facts and no amount of spin will change those facts. Romney may have lost because he had a bad ground game but that certainly wasn't because he couldn't afford to set up such an organization.

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RE: Mitt Romney says he lost because Obama outspent him - 6/7/2013 7:13:16 PM

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I see it much like the whiny people who come here complaining about not being able to find their match. Neither they or Romney want to take any responsibility for their own failings.

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RE: Mitt Romney says he lost because Obama outspent him - 6/7/2013 8:04:53 PM

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He also blamed the weather. Wished there had not of been a storm.

Not for of a good reason, like Americans not getting killed, though.

I`m still hear`n the yarn about how the President gave away free stuff and that, was the reason folks voted for him........free stuff.

One issue though that mitt never addressed......his "mitt" problem.How was a guy that arrogant going to put a lid on something like that?

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RE: Mitt Romney says he lost because Obama outspent him - 6/7/2013 8:15:35 PM

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Romney not having enough money to compete with Obama? That's a good laugh. I thought it Obama's "free" giveaway's to the "47%". My goodness, Republican's will find any excuse why they lost. Maybe Romney lost because he alway's put his foot in his mouth. He's said dumber thing's than even Biden. I wonder what Romney's excuse will be next week? Democracy spoke not once but twice. Obama simply had the better message and he won twice.

At least McCain was able to handle his defeat better than Romeny. Of course, McCain wasn't happy but at least he hasn't come up with every other excuse why he lost. He knew the people spoke and moved on. I would have easily voted for a McCain than a Romney anyday, if those were the only 2 choices.

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RE: Mitt Romney says he lost because Obama outspent him - 6/7/2013 8:19:51 PM

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Well, it's less egotistical than Trump's explanation.

Seriously, when Orca crashed, Romney had 30,000 field operatives that were cut off from any leadership, lost. There were numerous reasons why Romney lost, but being outspent wasn't one.

Ironically, that charge was leveled against Romney himself in the primaries by his GOP rivals.

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RE: Mitt Romney says he lost because Obama outspent him - 6/7/2013 8:34:30 PM

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There was NO lack of money on either side.

A better/different way of quantifying the money race was not by what was spent, but by what was collected, from donors.

The President won that vote of confidence, hands down.

Correct me if I`m mistaken, but didn`t Romney spend 45 million dollars of his own money, during his 1st bit for president, about half his overall campaign budget?

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RE: Mitt Romney says he lost because Obama outspent him - 6/7/2013 8:37:56 PM

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Mitt Romney lost because he and the party aparatchics who anointed him didn't have a flying fuck of an idea what the American people wanted and needed.

They had 6 years to prepare.
They had a Billion dollars to spend
They had the most ineffectual president in 2 or more generations to run against (I'm including Carter)

They got their asses STOMPED

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RE: Mitt Romney says he lost because Obama outspent him - 6/7/2013 8:47:32 PM

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Does anyone really give a shit what Mitt Romney thinks anymore?

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RE: Mitt Romney says he lost because Obama outspent him - 6/7/2013 9:03:52 PM

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Does anyone really give a shit what Mitt Romney thinks anymore?

I didn't in the first place.

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RE: Mitt Romney says he lost because Obama outspent him - 6/7/2013 9:07:23 PM

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I didn't in the first place.

That's another matter entirely.

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RE: Mitt Romney says he lost because Obama outspent him - 6/7/2013 9:09:09 PM

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This is a good and honest piece explaining that the problems were much deeper,including some major mistakes that all but assured mittens would lose.

http://www.bostonglobe.com/news/nation/2012/12/23/the-story-behind-mitt-romney-loss-presidential-campaign-president-obama/OeZRabbooIw0z7QYAOyFFP/story.html

The one big one,not introducing himself and not defining himself better......letting the President do it for him.At one point,mitt was begging th ePresident to stop talking about Bain Capital.(WTF!)

In late August last year, I spent a week in Wolfeboro NH.A good and old friend of mine(who I built a house on Lake Winnipesauke for in '85') was lending one of his rental properties to the Romney campaign for free. He knows mitt.

Big banner across the house, BMWs and Mercedes`cars filling the driveway, middle aged men in white dress shirts milling about,grilling some burgers, smoking and chatting.

I was introduced to the head honcho, an assemblymen or something or another, a republican and a lawyer.

Nice enough guy tho he had no idea I had a "bin-laden is dead, GM is alive" bumpersticker on my truck.

His shpeal to me (as I ate his, errr mitt`s hamburger)and I`m not kidding, was that "nobody knew who the real Mitt Romney was"

At one point, when I had a chance, I asked him politely, who`s fault was it that "nobody knew who mitt was"?

A mentioned he`d been running for president for almost 7 years, the almost a billion dollars spent, the 1st go-round,etc.

Why did mitt refuse to define himself during the primary?

His strategy was to say/do nothing, either way, in either direction, the whole time.

During the general, he flubbed, flip-flopped so many times on so many major issues, that nobody knew where he stood......on most things.

All of that is all on him,not ORCA. He had ever opportunity to make his case and blew it.

The stuffed shirt never answered my question.

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RE: Mitt Romney says he lost because Obama outspent him - 6/7/2013 9:15:08 PM

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I didn't in the first place.

That's another matter entirely.

Just sayin'. There's a reason I called him Mr. FanPlastic.

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RE: Mitt Romney says he lost because Obama outspent him - 6/7/2013 9:19:54 PM

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How about the "anyone but mitt" primary?

Brutal!

What`s the explanation for that 6 month long train wreck?

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RE: Mitt Romney says he lost because Obama outspent him - 6/8/2013 12:05:06 AM

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O59 mentioned the weather, and the article did as well. It got me thinking. What was to stop Romney from moving his campaigning to the affected states? Granted he couldn't be there in a Presidential capacity offering help, but would him having shown up and offering his sympathy and I don't know, to do something for the re-build efforts (perhaps organizing, whatever), have helped him?

Personally, I don't like him. Didn't like him from the start but for different reasons than most. But it seems to me that when he was right over the boarder in Pennsylvania, if he made a stop in NJ, it could have meant something to his campaign. Not enough to win, but it would have shown him in a more positive light.

From my perspective, his attitude was much like he seemed in the article, i.e. the storm presented a last minute opportunity for President Obama to show his good will (not his exact words, but the implied meaning of his statement). Good will doesn't have to be just for the president.

So would Romney trying to offer some kind of "good will" of his own to NJ, NY and all the other states have made him look better?

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RE: Mitt Romney says he lost because Obama outspent him - 6/8/2013 12:16:04 AM

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Mitt Romney lost because of his religion, pure and simple. The mormon church is just too strange in my opinion. The gold plates that were the source of the Book of Mormon vanished with the angel Moroni, the idea that there were descendants of Israelites livening in Pre Colombian south and central america has no basis in fact, genetic or otherwise.

The United States basically elected the lesser of two evils.

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RE: Mitt Romney says he lost because Obama outspent him - 6/8/2013 12:39:57 AM

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ORIGINAL: LafayetteLady

O59 mentioned the weather, and the article did as well. It got me thinking. What was to stop Romney from moving his campaigning to the affected states? Granted he couldn't be there in a Presidential capacity offering help, but would him having shown up and offering his sympathy and I don't know, to do something for the re-build efforts (perhaps organizing, whatever), have helped him?

Personally, I don't like him. Didn't like him from the start but for different reasons than most. But it seems to me that when he was right over the boarder in Pennsylvania, if he made a stop in NJ, it could have meant something to his campaign. Not enough to win, but it would have shown him in a more positive light.

From my perspective, his attitude was much like he seemed in the article, i.e. the storm presented a last minute opportunity for President Obama to show his good will (not his exact words, but the implied meaning of his statement). Good will doesn't have to be just for the president.

So would Romney trying to offer some kind of "good will" of his own to NJ, NY and all the other states have made him look better?

Actually, Mitt turned a rally into a food/clothing drive (kinda,it was really a photo op) and should have kept up with that kind of thing.

I thought it was a great idea on their part.

But he made a decision to suspend.

It was a crazy storm. We were almost prevented from voting here in north Jersey.

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RE: Mitt Romney says he lost because Obama outspent him - 6/8/2013 6:19:01 AM

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Does anyone really give a shit what Mitt Romney thinks anymore?

Apparently there are a few here that are still hanging his every word. Personally I wasn't that thrilled with him when he was news. I did find the OP interesting though. I remember towards the end of the election getting emails on a daily basis from the left claiming that the right had so much more money to spend and how we would surely lose the election if I didn't send in some money. It's a shame you can't trust either side to give you an honest answer.

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RE: Mitt Romney says he lost because Obama outspent him - 6/8/2013 6:32:42 AM

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shel adelson alone gave ten million...
the financing of the pres campaigns is lunacy

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RE: Mitt Romney says he lost because Obama outspent him - 6/8/2013 12:25:29 PM

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Does anyone really give a shit what Mitt Romney thinks anymore?

I hope no one does but the point of the thread was to point out another instance where a conservative simply invented his own "facts" to suit his desires. It has gotten to be a very common occurrence and is putting this nation in serious danger.

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RE: Mitt Romney says he lost because Obama outspent him - 6/8/2013 12:37:31 PM

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Despite having virtually the same amount of campaign cash available to the campaign and significantly more if outside groups are included Romney had this to say about why he lost in November

quote:

"I think he had as many as 10 times the number of ground workers, paid staff, that we had, because he could afford them and we couldn't," he said.

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2013/06/06/romney-talks-christie-irs-2016/?hpt=hp_t2

And just to prove that Romney wasn't running some sort of shoestring campaign unable to match the President.
http://elections.nytimes.com/2012/campaign-finance

This is what is wrong with the conservative movement. Facts are facts and no amount of spin will change those facts. Romney may have lost because he had a bad ground game but that certainly wasn't because he couldn't afford to set up such an organization.

Oh my gosh! This is SO important!

My oh my, it's such a good thing that the most important Democrats and Republicans were not already bought off, regardless of pres.-du-jour, n'est-ce pas?

They are so much looking out for our interests, don't you know.

This is what is SO RIGHT about all the political ideologies; 'may the most pocketed congressperson win.'

I am so overwhelmed by the integrity of the political process in this country.

Just floored, flabbergasted, etc.

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